Long March Declaration — A post-mortem

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A great day for the country, a huge feat for democracy, a victory for the marchers or a facing-saving exit for Dr. Qadri, the opinions would be aplenty and diverse. Let us see how we at the PA see the Long March and its ‘lost and found’ aspects for Dr. Qadri and the government. Let us examine the points of the declration to see how feasible they are:**

**Islamabad Long March Declaration
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  1. The National Assembly shall be dissolved at any time before March 16, 2013, (due date), so that the elections may take place within the 90 days. One month will be given for scrutiny of nomination paper for the purpose of pre-clearance of the candidates under article 62 and 63 of the constitution so that the eligibility of the candidates is determined by the Elections Commission of Pakistan. No candidate would be allowed to start the election campaign until pre-clearance on his/her eligibility is given by the Election Commission of Pakistan.
  2. The treasury benches in complete consensus with Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT) will propose names of two honest and impartial persons for appointment as Caretaker Prime Minister.
  3. Issue of composition of the Election Commission of Pakistan will be discussed at the next meeting on Sunday, January 27, 2013, 12 noon at the Minhaj-ul-Quran Secretariat. Subsequent meetings if any in this regard will also be held at the central secretariat of Minhaj-ul-Quran in Lahore. In pursuance to todays’ decision, the Law Minister will convene a meeting of the following lawyers: S. M. Zafar, Waseem Sajjad, Aitizaz Ahsan, Farough Naseem, Latif Afridi, Dr Khalid Ranja and Hamayoun Ahsan, to discuss these issues. Prior to the meeting of January 27, the Law Minister, Mr Farooq H Naek, will report the results of this legal consultation to the January 27 meeting.
  4. Electoral Reforms: It was agreed upon that the focus will be on the enforcement of electoral reforms prior to the polls on:
    A: Article 62, 63 and 218 (3) of the constitution
    B: Section 77 to 82 of the Representation of Peoples’ Act 1976 and other relevant provisions relating to conducting free, fair, just and honest elections guarded against all corrupt practices.
    C: The Supreme Court Judgement of June 8, 2012 on constitutional petition of 2011 must be implemented in Toto and in true letter and spirit.
  5. With the end of the long march and sit-in, all cases registered against each other shall be withdrawn immediately and there will be no acts of victimisation and vendetta against either party or the participants of the march.

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1: The National Assembly shall be dissolved at any time before March 16, 2013, (due date), so that the elections may take place within the 90 days.

The assembly will be completing its term on the 16th March anyway. And once the assemblies are gone, elections are bound to take place within 90 days. In fact some government ministers have been making it clear that elections will commence within 60 days of their departure.

One month will be given for scrutiny of nomination paper for the purpose of pre-clearance of the candidates under article 62 and 63 of the constitution so that the eligibility of the candidates is determined by the Elections Commission of Pakistan. No candidate would be allowed to start the election campaign until pre-clearance on his/her eligibility is given by the Election Commission of Pakistan.

Eligibility of candidates, according to the constitution, should be subjected to the requirements of article 62 and 63. But we know that these articles are a non-starter for all practical purposes.

2: The treasury benches in complete consensus with Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT) will propose names of two honest and impartial persons for appointment as Caretaker Prime Minister.

PAT has still not declared its intentions for contesting the general elections. If PAT enters the fray, why should it walk away with the special privilege of nominating candidates for caretaker premier? It should have only as much say in the matter as other contesting parties. And in case if PAT does not run in the elections, in which capacity should it have the role of kingmaker while other political forcers of the country are sidelined in the process?

3: Issue of composition of the Election Commission of Pakistan will be discussed at the next meeting on Sunday, January 27, 2013, 12 noon at the Minhaj-ul-Quran Secretariat. Subsequent meetings if any in this regard will also be held at the central secretariat of Minhaj-ul-Quran in Lahore. In pursuance to todays’ decision, the Law Minister will convene a meeting of the following lawyers: S. M. Zafar, Waseem Sajjad, Aitizaz Ahsan, Farough Naseem, Latif Afridi, Dr Khalid Ranja and Hamayoun Ahsan, to discuss these issues. Prior to the meeting of January 27, the Law Minister, Mr Farooq H Naek, will report the results of this legal consultation to the January 27 meeting.

The issue of the EC is the most thorniest in this declration. We are all aware of the working of this government and there is hardly any chance of the government bringing any reform in the assembly to reconstitute the EC. The government has almost 8 weeks to do the job, but given the seriousness of the issue, the government does not seem likely to make any meaningful move in this regard.

4: Electoral Reforms: It was agreed upon that the focus will be on the enforcement of electoral reforms prior to the polls on:
A: Article 62, 63 and 218 (3) of the constitution
B: Section 77 to 82 of the Representation of Peoples’ Act 1976 and other relevant provisions relating to conducting free, fair, just and honest elections guarded against all corrupt practices.
C: The Supreme Court Judgement of June 8, 2012 on constitutional petition of 2011 must be implemented in Toto and in true letter and spirit.

I believe that time for any serious and meaningful electoral reform has already passed and the ball is now almost in the ECP's court to hold free and fair elections. As far as the SC's ruling of June 8 is concerned, we all know how diligently this government regard SC's rulings.

5: With the end of the long march and sit-in, all cases registered against each other shall be withdrawn immediately and there will be no acts of victimisation and vendetta against either party or the participants of the march.

This appears to be the only new and doable part of the whole declaration.

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RIP

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Good day for democracy, but bad day for PTI and Qadri.

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Good for corrupt family politics bad for who looking for change.

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Congratulations..

Canadian cleric brings revolution in Pakistan from bomb-proof container. Cleric will be returning to Canada on 27th January after successful revolution in Pakistan.. election will be held within 90 days instead of 3 months. Cleric will endorse the care taker set up decided by the ruling coalition so no one can question the credentials of impartiality. Moreover the cleric will also endorse the piousness of the candidates aspiring to take part in the coming elections..

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khaya piya kuch nahi, plate tori baara anay

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If the people sitting in assemblies are criminals, how can you trust the same criminals to bring honest reforms that would eventually hurt them?

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^^^ There is method to IKs madness. You can still use old lotas to clean s^%t. :D

Funny thing is that pretty much all of Mushy's guys who could not get along with Ch. bros are joining PTI...the same people that IK was condemning during Mushrrafs rule for being corrupt.

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:stuck_out_tongue:

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Nice question for Padri and Mureedin :slight_smile:

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this Nation loves to be fooled, again, again and again

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This is getting stale.
We have seen a lot of unwanted people join PTI. The reason is that you cannot stop anyone from joining a democratic political party. PTI is not wadera owned. A few of those unwanted people have reformed themselves, and are sticking it out. But many of those unwanted people came into PTI for elections, but have since left, as PTI did not budge from its due process. Now whether ex-PPP jiyalas, or ex-Musharraf buddies join PTI, they have to go through the same process. Case closed.

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I am really surprised looking at understanding of the people on the forum (as also around me) about the agreement and what Nation achieved due to the agreement (if implemented). I did not mention it before (intentionally) but I would also put down why Imran was reluctant to join TUQ.

First thing: Question arises, whatever the agreement why it would get implemented?

I believe that agreement with TUQ would not have happened if all was up to Pakistani politicians and government in power. Most likely, army must have put down their weight and forced government to come to agreement with TUQ. So, I believe army (that is my thinking) could be a guarantor of the agreement behind the scene. Secondly, I also believe that SC would also make sure that agreement is fulfilled, as whatever in agreement would be part of constitution too.

Now coming to agreement and major TUQ demands:

What TUQ was demanding (it was 4 things):

1: Election should be held in accordance with Article 62, 63 and 218 of constitution, and within 90 days.
2: Election commission should be dissolved and reconstituted again.
3: Care taker government setup should be made by consent and agreement of all political parties.
4: Federal and provincial assemblies should be dissolved by the government.

Reasons for his demands:

1: Election should be held in accordance with Article 62, 63 and 218 of the constitution, and within 90 days.

This demand is most crucial. Implementation would bar all corrupt politicians from contesting election. It is this demand (along with demand 2 and 3) that was most worrying for corrupt politicians. All other TUQ demands were there to support this demand.

Demand got accepted. Important of this demand is that now election commission would have to make sure that all candidates who file nomination papers could not contest election unless that candidate fulfils requirement set in Article 62, 63 and 218 of the constitution.

In past this never happened and now it would be duty of election commission that it happens … EC would have to investigate all candidates before allowing them to contest election as this is now mandatory requirement (no one from outside election commission would need to file case against candidate).

90 days clause is there in constitution for care-taker government and is put in by TUQ so that election commission would have time to investigate all candidates.

2: Election commission should be dissolved and reconstituted again.

This clause was demanded because most staff working in election commission are political appointees so obviously they would not do thorough investigation of candidates to make sure they fulfil Article 62, 63 and 218 even if it would become their duty to investigate without any complains by contesting candidates (as use to happen). On the other hand, EC had no powers to investigate candidates themselves and had to wait for complains from contesting candidates of same constituency.

Government agreed with TUQ that other than election commissioner (who is honest person anyhow), election commission would be dissolved and new independent and more powerful election commission would be set-up consisting of impartial staffs (no political appointees) that would have powers (as well as duty) to investigate candidates and make sure they comply with Article 62, 63 and 218 of the constitution (no need for complains).

3: Care taker government setup should be made by consent and agreement of all political parties.

This clause was there to make sure that Care taker government fully co-operate with election commission and do not create hindrance in their investigations to make sure that contesting candidates fulfils Article 62, 63 and 218 of the constitution.

Demand got accepted as we know most political parties were present while negotiating and TUQ was asking that they all should get consulted and agree with care-taker government set-up and not just Leader of the house (Prime Minister) and Opposition leader (as what presently constitution requires). Actually, now TUQ would also be there (stakeholder as voter) to suggest who would be in care-taker government.

4: Federal and provincial assemblies should be dissolved by the government.

This clause was there so that enough time is given to caretaker government set-up so that they can hold free and fair election within 90 days according to the Article 62, 62 and 218 of the constitution.

According to agreed agreement, a strong EC would get at least 30 days to investigate candidates and neutral care-taker government would be installed for 90 days that would fully cooperate with EC.

So … main reason for long march was that in next election, a strong EC and neutral caretaker government make sure that all contesting candidates fulfil Article 62, 63 and 218 of the constitution. For that, EC would investigate each and every candidate to make sure they do fulfil Article 62, 63 and 218 of the constitution before allowing them to contest election (regardless of any complain against them or not).

Implications on corrupt candidates:

Corrupt politicians were worried and upset with TUQ demands (something in the end they were forced to accept)

Reason is simple, that is, no corrupt candidate can fulfil Article 62, 63 and 218 of the constitution and thus the agreement making these clauses as mandatory conditions to participate in election would keep all corrupts out of assembly (in theory at least). For investigating each candidate, EC would have at least 30 days.

In past, corrupts managed to contest election because there was no requirement that EC should investigate them as mandatory requirement of participate in election.

In past, Article 62, 63 and 218 of the constitution only used to come in force if opposing candidate from same constituency complains, but then requirement was that complainant candidate have to prove to EC that the candidate he is complaining against do not fulfil Article 62, 63 and 218 of the constitution.

Even though there was silent agreement between most contesting candidates that they would not complain against each other, such task was almost impossible for complainant to prove in most cases anyhow as complainant could not have access to all files and background of candidate what government functionaries could have, especially when EC had little power to investigate, most were political appointees, and care-taker government were indifferent.

Now, when it would be requirement for a strong EC to make sure all candidates fulfils Article 62, 63 and 218 of the constitution, such should not happen (in theory).

Let see its implication on politicians:
Rehman Malik, Imran Khan, Dr Qadri (himself), Altaf-Hussain, Zardari, Nawaz, Shahbaz, Amin Fahim, etc … think of people who are politicians or would like to become member of Pakistan assemblies (federal or provincial) and apply Article 62, 63 and 218 and one would find that most would not even qualify for contesting election.

Note: One can see why Imran was reluctant to join TUQ. Reason is that, he knew that if TUQ demands are met than he would be ‘out from election’ too … so, he wanted that TUQ demands only get accepted if it applies to others but not him … something he knew could not happen, so his heart might be saying that to join TUQ but his mind knew that it would be disaster for him so keep away from TUQ … and thus he kept away…:)

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tabdeeli badnam hui qadri tere lye

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Articles 62 of the constitution is very vague. I always wonder whose definition of "Islamic Injunctions" would apply and who would determine if someone "...has not, after the establishment of Pakistan, worked against the integrity of the country or opposed the ideology of Pakistan.... " since we are very quick to label any opposing person as ghaddar.

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Many clauses are not vague in Article 62, 63 and 218 ... and even applying non-vague part of clause would get rid of most Pakistani corrupt and thug politicians ... so no problem :)

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Hum tum ek bullet proof container mein band hon or inqilab aa'jaay :) they have fooled us again !

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tumhain yaad ho ke na yaad ho…

Agreements with the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) “are not holy like the holy Quran and the Hadith” and can be modified if circumstances change, Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) Co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari said in an interview with BBC Urdu on Saturday

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Lol