Re: ‘Lightly beating’ wife permissible, says CII’s proposed women protection bill!!!
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Re: ‘Lightly beating’ wife permissible, says CII’s proposed women protection bill!!!
Spare the rod and spoil the wife.
Re: ‘Lightly beating’ wife permissible, says CII’s proposed women protection bill!!!
Re: ‘Lightly beating’ wife permissible, says CII’s proposed women protection bill!!!
What I understand is light beating is in extremely complex and rare case. In case of infidelity, men are supposed to separate their bed as a first approach. I believe this is great thing for keeping relationship alive that Quran advising men to be patient where as a so called ghairat mand mard would give her divorce in first place let alone the beating her to bring her to right path. In such case man will not only hit her but also divorce her and this not Islam but subcontinent culture.
Complexity or confusion is if women dont refrain even after separating bed and still dont want divorce then what to do? Give her divorce or beat lightly? If she want divorce then no question of beating her. Light beating as i know is using as small stick as miswak and it shouldnt leave spots. Well most of the domestic violence can be avoided by removing ignorance and cultural stupidity from the society.
Does the wife has the same right if husband doing these things?
Re: ‘Lightly beating’ wife permissible, says CII’s proposed women protection bill!!!
Yup they do have some rights…
but then there will be a “men protection bill”..
Re: ‘Lightly beating’ wife permissible, says CII’s proposed women protection bill!!!
Re: ‘Lightly beating’ wife permissible, says CII’s proposed women protection bill!!!
^ haha
well said
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Re: ‘Lightly beating’ wife permissible, says CII’s proposed women protection bill!!!
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Re: ‘Lightly beating’ wife permissible, says CII’s proposed women protection bill!!!
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Those proposing sexist & anti-women legislation are the ones who should be punished with a ‘light beating’.
Re: ‘Lightly beating’ wife permissible, says CII’s proposed women protection bill!!!
Dear idiocracy:
There is capital punishment for murder, how come you don't find that offending ???
Because its given to the one who has killed some one.
Suppose.. suppose....this CII got right translation, and it actually means.. beat lightly.
Do you know when it comes into effect ???????????????
Husband provide and protect his woman.
If she can not guard what she is supposed to guard "chastity "
Then Husband can not hit lightly... but speak to her.
if she still do not stop.
Then husband can no hit lightly... but stop sleeping with her..
if she still do not get the message..
Then our **supposed **action come in effect.
If that do not work..
Then husband need to bring her and his family,, making it sort of known and try to find resolution.
So... this **supposed **is for women who has issue with character.
BTW I would divorce such women way before even talking to her.
Now look what quran **DID NOT SAY
**1-I love when you casually hit your woman.
2-Dude she is looking at other men, get rid of her.. come one you can have 4 or them.
etc etc...
Now the word used for lightly hit is "daraba" Which has array of meaning.
As when quran gives an example ... it says example is *daraba... *as in presented firmly.
I guess... this word has meaning.. based on who reads it.
Re: ‘Lightly beating’ wife permissible, says CII’s proposed women protection bill!!!
^ The post may not have meaning based on who reads it.
Re: ‘Lightly beating’ wife permissible, says CII’s proposed women protection bill!!!
The best response so far is from Rana Sanaullah,
He says, we need explaination from Molana on the issue that what is light beating, is it a slap or two or 100 and we should check it in molana itself...
And Punjab assembly is not bound to accept all of the suggestions made by CII..
I think Sindh Assembly 's majority party shares the same sentiment.
I dont know about KPK and Balochistan
Re: ‘Lightly beating’ wife permissible, says CII’s proposed women protection bill!!!
Brothers, Allah (swt) doesn’t need us to do mental gymnastics to explain his words. He is all-knowing, so he knows if he is unclear on any issue it will cause many problems for muslims.
That is precisely why there is nothing in verse 4:34 which can influence muslim men to beat their wives. Read the translations
The Quranic Arabic Corpus - Translation
they clearly state to never hit your wives under any circumstances, ever. If verse had stated otherwise, the fault would nauzbillah have lied with Allah (swt) since he could not foresee problems it would create by including permission to beat under this or that circumstance?!
He knows everything, but can’t foresee the problems ambiguous verses create, because he can not understand the human nature? Astaghfirullah!
The noble Qur’an needs no mental gymnastics, it is perfect guidance from all-knowing Allah (swt). There is no room for misinterpretations of 4:34. Otherwise you are nauzubillah left with no other choice to unapologetically condemn the verse for facilitating domestic violence among muslims.
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Bas kr do janab bohat ho gayee trolling and pretending
Re: ‘Lightly beating’ wife permissible, says CII’s proposed women protection bill!!!
Bas kr do janab bohat ho gayee trolling and pretending
He is on topic, how is he trolling?
Re: ‘Lightly beating’ wife permissible, says CII’s proposed women protection bill!!!
CII and all its members need to be thrown in jail permanently.
I'm surprised nobody alleged on them misrepresentation of islam yet for all these blatant lies and making up their own laws from their narrow and twisted minds. These org only exists for eating money for these otherwise unemployable and unskilled bearded men.
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Valuable writing on facebook!
Islam & public policy
Was there something wrong with vacuum tubes of the early 20th century, floppy discs of 70s, video tapes in the Betamax format introduced in 1975, or a DX2 CPU of 1992?
No!Not when all this technology was created. The problem is that all this stuff is now obsolete.
Similarly what Maulana Sherani and the Council of Islamic Ideology is proposing on women status could be right 1450 years ago, but today in a civilized world it is no more valid, though it is completely in accordance with the teachings of Islam.
Now somebody would say that the Islam of Maulana Sherani is not the true Islam. Well, nobody has the authority to decide which Islam is the true one. And if you bring Islam in public life then you simply cannot pick and choose Islam of your choice.You will have to accept the full package. And full package is the Islam of the Barelvi,the Islam of Deobandi,the Islam of Ahle Hadis and the Islam of Shia, the Islam of the scholarly and the Islam of the mullah. As an example we see that textbooks for Shias and deduction of zakat in banks is not the same as for Sunnis.
And let me also flag that all the aforementioned brands of Islam derive their strength from the same Quran and Sunnah.
And now if you contend that teachings of Islam were for a particular era,this position would conflict with the concept of universality of Islam. Islam which came into existence 1450 years ago is for all times to come as we have been told.Hence,either Islam is for a particular period or it is universal.
Therefore, we can safely conclude that Islam is no more practicable in the modern world as we have become much more civilized. As an example even the most religious woman in Pakistan would not accept wife battering or sharing her husband with another,though Islam permits both. Interpretations of the Quran are in thousands and thousands more will appear yet it would remain as elusive as ever.
So let it be in the private domain of individuals as it cannot be modified and can never be enforced in public life. Or it will result in total chaos. By the way what is there in Islam which was not there in intellectual discourse before Islam and which is not there in conventional widom after Islam.
The only solution is to separate public life from private life and let the practice of Islam remain in the private domain of each individual.
In other words Islam has to have no role in public policy.
Waseem Altaf
Re: ‘Lightly beating’ wife permissible, says CII’s proposed women protection bill!!!
Very true saying by him
Re: ‘Lightly beating’ wife permissible, says CII’s proposed women protection bill!!!
He is on topic, how is he trolling?
He is trolling because be is on topic.