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S Hari Shankar

What Bharat Desai says about overpaid prima donnas is bang on target.

Sachin Tendulkar - once a good player, but cannot be relied upon today to deliver when needed.

Sehwag - technique marginally better than Afridi's and can deliver once in every 8 matches or thereabouts.

Dravid - Can still bat a little, but then can he ever perform like Inzamam, who is terribly under-rated.

Kaif - a poor man's cricketer - it is a rare talent that can make an international side purely on his fielding abilities a la Jonty Rhodes - Kaif does not come close with either his batting or his fielding - this is not to say he is the best Indian fielder on display.

Yuvraj Singh - Not enough cricketing talent or ability

Dinesh Mongia - another Yuvraj Singh

Dhoni - one swallow does not make a summer.

It might seem cruel, but what Indian Cricket needs desperately, is a severe surgical procedure starting from the administration down to the players. I have no hang-ups about the rewards that everyone associated with Indian cricket is reaping, but then when they do not perform, it is not bouquets, but brickbats that should go their way. There is absolutely no accountability now and that is something that INDIA cannot and should not tolerate any more.
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Had Pakistan lost the series, we would be reading similar comments by OUR fans too.

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Ranganathan TS**

Prem,

Our team's performance just reflects on our system - right from childhood, we have been ordered to conform, not to question authority. However, as we become adults, we are suddenly free to do what we want and take shortcuts to achieve success. Both of these are counter-productive to good performance. Take for example, a country like china - the order and control is maintained, which means there's a price to pay for disobedience and hard work is rewarded.

We are forever caught in this indecision and hence there's no whole-hearted effort. Kapil Dev was the only indian cricketer who was fearless and look what happened to him for one indiscretion in the Delhi test match. Sehwag has been lucky so far, thanks to his success. On the other hand, we seem to persist with certain players, even though it seems that all they are concerned about is their place in the side or their avg.

Look at Inzamam - can any one player in the indian side put up his hand like inzi does time and again and not only see his side through but inspire his team to perform better?

We also need to find and groom cricketers for the highest level of performance - much like the australian system. Our cricketers need to be toughened. We've been spoiling our batsmen far too long, and we have started hyping our bowlers too. For all this to happen, we have to start from the top - instead of the fans throwing water bottles at the players, they should reserve them for the likes of Dalmiya and his ilk, the corporates, & the politicians.

Can we indians stand up and take collective action to force a change in the system? Unfortunately, we have been trained to taked the easy approach to life...
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Here is a philosopher indicting the ENTIRE Indian system.

Had Pakistan lost, we'd be blaming mullahs, last 20+ years of dictatorship and lack of moral virtue (westernization/pakistani actresses kissing hindus etc).

People have similar gripes no matter where you go.

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Ravi**

Hi Prem,

Pakistan played wonderful cricket than India throughout this One day series.Full credit should go to Inzy and woolmer. Pakistan played as a team that is the reason they are winning this series. India Looks better team on paper than real.This series is the best example for team work. Cricket is a team game. Individual performance can win one or two matches but not the series.

Finally Congrats to Pakistan team for playing a wonderful cricket.
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Here is an Indian fan's ode to Shoaib Akhtar. :D

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LI thats the only thing common with us desis. We can argue for both sides of the coin. Arent we such great master debators? :D

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Zahid Shaikh

Hi Prem,

Thank for very nice updates & loving commentary.

I am Zahid Ali. I'm Indian & working in Yemen now

I think this Indian team is helpless infront of current Pak team, aya ram gaya ram show is going on till the final one day. All blame went to our captain Ganguly before but now I think people will blame any new bakara.

History reminding me whenever India team or Pakistani team lose any match, then surely captain has to pay his sacrifies, any way we must take it as a game sprit coz lost & win doesn't mean more we must see that we have found blaster dhoni in this series & Naved for Pak.

People will forget this lose but they will never foret that how the behaviour of the crowd & i agree with you that we always saying pak is not supportive but when india beat pak in pak both in test & one dayers they accepted so who is to be blame. Its game of only sure thinkg that you cant predict about it.

Every body is shouting with full throat that sourv should be a captain like Ricky & Inzy, but before one month Mr Ramese Raja had said & i think all may remember with heading * Sourav is much better than INZY''. its only heading & he has criticise more on inzy.

so its just game of luck & we should accept that we have lost.
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Ahhh...voice of reason.

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Medhora

Some kind of hold up here, as things start flying onto the pitch. Bad show by the Delhi crowd -- all talk of bhai-bhai goes flying out the window when the home team is in trouble, that is not a good response to the way Pak crowds greeted Indian wins in 2004.

YOU SAID IT!

We always try to be the saints, dont we?
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I am glad Pakistanis were gracious in their defeat. Somebody from the other side agrees.

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Anjum Parwej

India loses the match in the mind without playing even a single ball. Their approach to the game is defensive. This is the sigle reason of India losing the match.

I have to argue with so many Pakistanis and defend India. Tell me about the similar incidents when pakis were involved in unruly behavior. I know that is not an argument but I will still have something in my hand.
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Anyhoot, let's not have a few rotten apples ruin the spirit of the series. Poop happens.

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Dev Suman

Indians should be banned from playing any ODI for couple of months and all the star batsmen should be balded and not be allowed to play until they prove themselves in domestic cricket. Some kind of harsh action is required otherwise they won't improve.

This is not something they could do so regularly. They have no nerves and should not be allowed to play any longer.

Millions of indians all over the world keep awake whole night in anticipation of some good show.. we cannot tolerate this anylonger.** We want them see punished as Pakistanis gets if they lose**.
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Hahahahahhaha.

PS. Yes, we mete out regular chitrolls to Inzi and Co.

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Tarun Kotal

I am great fan of Tendulker but still I would say that we should drop him in any crucial match because he does not have enough mental toughness to handle the pressure at the big stage. Even a rookie would be better than him in the big stage (like any series deciding match, finals etc.). I think, India should think over it seriously.

What do you think?

Regards,

Dear Tarun,

You should coach the Indian team. They need people like you.

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congrats 2 Pakistan and everybody on GS/KK....

:) :) :) :).........................

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Raj

Why dont you guys tell our Indian players to just admit the defeat and save the embrassement. Looks Indian can only beat Pakistan in the war.. that too probaby more with more army men. Some of the things you guys write in the commnentary are good and similar thinking from most of us. Then when you have access to these buch of jokers, why dont you advice and see that they do not make similar mistakes.

Thanks

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oh bhai LI, we get the point. Why dont you post your replies on that board :P

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^^

That's not the point 5Abi mian.

[Sohaib]

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Who is this Prem guy these posters are talking to? Prem Chopra?

[Fayz]

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Thanks for the quotes Luxury Item..it adds flavour to the celebrations :-D

Indians choked under pressure. I don't remember the last time an Indian played a mard ka bacha innings.. under immense pressure..against all odds. It was time to shine for the Indian superstars..the stage was set and the champ was supposed to step up...instead they lost with their tails in their legs. Shame on Tendulkar and Sehwag.

The crowd reaction was pathetic but who can blame them....Shyt happens when people are disappointed

Cheers!

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^ At least our crowds in Pak didnt throw bottles at our players or chai ki pyaali at Irfan Pathan/Balaji etc. Shyt happened there too.

[Starsky]

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Mubarak to all the Pakistani crew and worldwide fans

A team written off by many has shown its true world class colours. Inshallah we can build upon this magnificant team performance, some of the players have come out and shown their stature.

And a big ‘F**k You’ to the typical sore loser Indian crowd. Kiss my ass you losers :roman:

[Sehar]

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It’s been a great pleasure following the series with guppies. Thank you Pakistani Team for making it so worthwhile. Love you guys tears of joy

Let’s tackle the W-Indies the same way insha’Allah!

[Zabardast]

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:bhangra:

PS: Shahid Afridi & Pakistan Zindabad!

[ghalib]

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What a series!! Hats off to Pakistan for playing with their hearts and minds in the right place.

Its amazing, and sad, to watch the Indian media and fans tear into their team like the way they have been in this series. The same media and the fans were bursting through the seams with excitement when India won in Pakistan. This is essentially the same team and its pathetic to watch a good team with batsmen like Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar and, yes, even Ganguly, be treated like they have never delivered for India.

We, the people of the subcontinent are notorious for this flip flopping. Lets hope that when the same Pakistani team falters in the field in the future, and we all know it happens to the best of us, we will atleast remember the time they have delivered for Pakistan when calling for heads to roll.