Re: Lesson One on How To Not Be a FOB: Use of “Dear”
No no. Humans can’t be “Deers”. Don’t insult the poor animal now.
I’m amazed for all those Islami Islamiyat walay laug, here you are approving of the term “dear”. Um, so we’re not allowed to show our thopras to men and have to cover them up with some black cloth, and we can’t speak to na-mehrams…
but ahray gahray guys can call us “dear” to our faces?
Re: Lesson One on How To Not Be a FOB: Use of "Dear"
I agree with Impulse...i cudn't even believe wot i was reading when i read the title of this thread. Ppl lableled "fobs" r humans too, at one point i'm sure everyone has an elder who was one...when u criticise somebody foreign just bcos they r new and r not accustommed to a new culture, it seems like u r being superior to them. So i don't think it's rite to judge these ppl.
As far as these words are concerned like "dear"...i suppose it's the tone used that perhaps one cud find offensive...other than that, it is a positive word unlike say "ur such a tart!". That is offensive. But saying something like "wot's wrong dear?"...how is that offensive? Anyway, in England ppl use that term all the time, esp. elders...and no, not just "fobs"...i have even heard it in the States. It's just a friendly, cosy word. And who is anyone to be giving "lessons" to some ppl who just haven't had the same experiences for as long as we have. Plain stupidity.
Re: Lesson One on How To Not Be a FOB: Use of "Dear"
Its not that they're subhuman. They do things that are plain WRONG. Don't sit here and talk about Islam and then tell me that its okay to call someone you barely know as "dear".
Re: Lesson One on How To Not Be a FOB: Use of “Dear”
I guess ur talking about something more personal then, that i don’t know about (perhaps with someone on this forum)…bcos i certainly don’t see any harm in saying “dear” to a stranger. And seriously, i don’t get y ur mixing two things up…religion, and then the fact that it bothers u that a stranger refers to u in a nice way…well maybe, u think it’s better that strangers don’t even talk to each other, that’ll make the world a slightly better place.
Re: Lesson One on How To Not Be a FOB: Use of “Dear”
i’m not a fobby maulvi who trots out Islamic wisdom, but i think saying dear is okay. it certainly isn’t “plainly wrong” as opposed to saying something insulting or obscene. it might not be the hippest or coolest thing to say, but fobs are brought up in traditional Pakistani culture not the culture of New York and LA. how can you condemn them for saying something which Gora culture would regard as awkward or out of date when they haven’t been brought up in this culture? do you expect them to divine the niceties of gora culture even when they’ve only been in Goraland for a few months?
