Mr. Fraudia, you are correct. Other days as I said earlier have been specifically been given significance but not the day of miraj per se. Obviously we should know about it, but to think that it is a blessed day when the Prophet didn't do so is wrong.
why people here make fun of sunnah? You are using internet to learn and discuss islam.
This is not a sunnah and as you started new practice it is biddat also. Any fool can object like this who do not know exctly the meaning of sunnah and where it is applicable.
wassalam
So do what the Prophet did, fast on Mondays and Thursdays, pray Tahajjud, pray TahiyyatulMasjid, fast on Ashoora, pray a lot in last ten days of Ramadan, fast during the Hajj days, etc., etc.
So do what the Prophet did, fast on Mondays and Thursdays, pray Tahajjud, pray TahiyyatulMasjid, fast on Ashoora, pray a lot in last ten days of Ramadan, fast during the Hajj days, etc., etc.
all are sunnah.. no doubt.. but he used to go on camel that is not sunnah..
I mean one can read any surah any day, night, its their business, but when it is some sort of organized ritual of specific surahs or specific days/nights then it becomes more .. and I have not seen any answers yet that justify it being more.
its an anniversary of an important event in our history, but aside from that, i hve not read anything that it has any significance for us from a religious perspective.
i wouldn't say that, because Mi'raj does have religious significance
we should know about it, the times of Salah were given to the Prophet at that time, and he personally went to meet with Allah
but doing these extra Ibadaat just because it is the day of Mi'raj is weird because the Prophet didn't instruct us to do so
the question that comes to my mind is that, if he didn't do this then why are we doing it? do we think that we are better than the Prophet?
I mean that lailatul mairaj i.e. that specific night that specific year had religious significance of huge proportions...
..but not the same date the next year or the year after. then it just becomes an anniversary of a historic event, i.e. lailatul mairaj does not have any religious importance this year.. no special duas, no farishtas coming to earth, nothing.
the question that comes to my mind is that, if he didn't do this then why are we doing it? do we think that we are better than the Prophet?
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so what our holy prophet (s.a.w) used to do on the night of miraj? discussing the incident and reciting quran OR discussing on net and insulting other muslims as few members are doing?
did he recite any special surahs from quran in any specific order, and did he ask others thatthey should do the same?
as far as discussion goes, we are having a discussion and while it may not be perfect and may make some ppl uncomfortable and could use a better tone, it is sowing limitations of communication by words alone and in posts rather than a real time dialogue.
I mean that lailatul mairaj i.e. that specific night that specific year had religious significance of huge proportions...
..but not the same date the next year or the year after. then it just becomes an anniversary of a historic event, i.e. lailatul mairaj does not have any religious importance this year.. no special duas, no farishtas coming to earth, nothing.
Am I right?
Yes, it's just that you have to make sure you chose your words properly because you might give someone else the wrong impression. Allah knows best what actually happens on this day of Mi'raj but as far as we know the Prophet didn't instruct us to do something special on this day.
And as you can see smma59 is just going around in circles and he hasn't been able to prove anything.
Exactly and I don’t understand people are up for doing all these new inventions in Islam but simply they can’t pray 5 times a day. O pehlay punj waqat de namaz te parlo fair kuj hor kar lena.
And as you can see smma59 is just going around in circles and he hasn't been able to prove anything.
o what our holy prophet (s.a.w) used to do on the night of miraj? discussing the incident and reciting quran OR discussing on net and insulting other muslims as few members are doing?
please tell me with proper ref of hadith. if you do not know it means you are just trying to stop muslims from reciting verses of quran on that day? why ?
what i see is that this thread started with a simple question that when is laila tul meraj in north america.
ever since then only one person was sensible enough to answer the question.
all others are just trying to prove to each other that they are more aware of the sunnat e nabwi(saw) and the religion.
but rather than giving reasons and logics it has become more like a personal argument.
i just ask one thing that if some person decides to do some ibaadat on this day or night of the year what wrong is he doing?
is he doing something for which he will go to hell?
just tell me what is wrong with it.
every soorah of the quran has some significance to it.
people recite surah maryam when a woman is in labor...is that sunnah....did our prophet(saw) do so?
if not then will alll those who do so rot in hell?
its really a useless discussion as no one will ever get anywhere except for trying to prove to each other that what they say or do or know is right and what others say or do or know is wrong.
please tell me with proper ref of hadith. if you do not know it means you are just trying to stop muslims from reciting verses of quran on that day? why ?
wasalam
To my understanding he didn't do anything special on that day. Reciting Quran and nawafil prayers are not specific to the day of Mi'raj but can be done on any day. Meaning this is not something special, in other words this is not something extra to be done on that day specifically.
On the other hand can you prove from hadith that he did what you said in post #3 like praying 12 rakaat and reciting those particular chapters of the Quran?
Very very very important point, thansk for stating it
I think that its a basic issue with terminology thats throws ppl off.
People use the term lailatul mairaaj to describe that specific night, as well as that date on the followig years.
It would be much easier if instead of saying tonight is lailatul mairaj we can say on this date so many years ago it was lailatul mairaj.
so yeah lailatul mairaj, huge religious event, observing that date in subsequent years..no religious basis, from what I have read so far.
there is nothing like word " To my understanding" exist in islamic practices. if you are sure object others if not ask scholars and then object.
wassalam
You don't go to hell that's obvious. Doing something like this does not take you out of Islam. But like the Hadith of the Prophet salAllahualaihiwasallam says that with every Bid'ah a Sunnah is lost. So, innovating something new will eradicate a Sunnah and this is definitely apparent today.
it depends how you see it, if people of different perspective are sharing what they know..or even people of same perspective are discussing and sharing, it helps add ot not only their own kowledge but also to those of others who may just be reading it, or may be curious.
It would in genera be better if many of the religious and political discussions were more discussions than debates. Hopefully we will get there some day. right now the approach mirrors what unfortunately has become the standard approach in society at large.
Our muslim br. for any good acts like reciting quran as ref and ask if it was practice of our holy prophet saw but when some one use abusive language nobody ask ref from the practice of our Holy Prophet (s.a.w). Those who committ sins of abuse can not teach islam and there are hundreds of hadith present like this.
Any way Br. please tell me which ref you want? from shia books, from shafai book, from, maliki book? plz teel me.
and tell me if you all are sure that you will obey if i will provide link from malki books, or shafai books.
one will say i am not maliki, other will say it is shafai practice and some will say this is shia practice. is there any sense in asking ref if you all are not united.
wassalam
I guess the point is to learn and to share, and what u share may not be accepted by some and may be accepted by some. It does not howeve give everyone a chance to read and learn. heck ppl may get exposed to stuff they never read due to their upbringing in a particular school of thought
Our muslim br. for any good acts like reciting quran as ref and ask if it was practice of our holy prophet saw but when some one use abusive language nobody ask ref from the practice of our Holy Prophet (s.a.w). Those who committ sins of abuse can not teach islam and there are hundreds of hadith present like this.
Actually there is an incident when Abu Bakr radiAllahuanhu cursed at someone in front of the Prophet for saying something bad about the Sahaba and the Prophet said nothing. There's also another incident with Abu Dharr al Ghifari, he also cursed at someone. Just so that you know.
and tell me if you all are sure that you will obey if i will provide link from malki books, or shafai books.
one will say i am not maliki, other will say it is shafai practice and some will say this is shia practice. is there any sense in asking ref if you all are not united.
wassalam
As long as these references have some sort of daleel that goes back to the Prophet or the Sahaba then I will accept it, otherwise I don't care.