Lahore Metro Train : Orange Line

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Punjab Govt is financing the project and its well documented. As for Showbaz CM of Lahore, only Losers who are invaluable less than nothing idiots say that! The people who matter actually voted them heavily so please correct yourself here. It doesnt matter if some losers call him Showbaz. As for visits with PM, no one ever told other PM's not to come. This is also well documented. CM Showbaz visits on his own as well so this crap has also taken its course.

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i cannot talk about whole punjab but yes i know for sure that other than lahore, Faisalabad and gujranwala have been improved so much..much wider roads, less trash, improved waste-water sanitation, and more clean in general. when you say these things, PTI fans start abusing you but one shd talk on merit based on what he knows.

now i dont know if siraki portion has seen any improvement or not and from i know or heard, not really and that is a black dot on shahbaz sharif as CM. He needs to focus on that region big time as it is underdeveloped seriously.

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K is pertinent, I think but we will see what happen to pti vote bank in kpk when someone from Punjab like Chaudhry Sarwar takes place of IK.

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Get off your bias. SS has made many visits to turkey, china, srilanka even when NS was not PM. So instead of hating others ask your bhang saen to do his work.

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PTI's vote in Punjab will also suffer (and will suffer more) if someone like Ch. Sarwar takes over. Asad Umar might make a better comparison.

But truth of the matter is, Pashtuns have given all mainstream parties a chance regardless of their political epicentre. They are the most egalitarian group in Pakistan.

Pashtuns had voted for PTI when it was nothing but Punjab centred party, now let's see if Punjabis vote for a Pashtun labelled party.

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So that means Showbaz must take all the blame for multi billion failure that Nandipur turned out to be? Is there a particular reason why Pakistan Metro is the most expensive mass transit system in the whole world? Yup, corruption and kickbacks that you get from hiring shady Chinese and Turkish firms. I rather have rest of the province stay away from such shady dealing.

By the way, how many people in Punjab know that KP cabinet minister at present are in Scotland and has met Nicola Sturgeon to sign MoU on Health, Education, IT, Local Government, Tourism? It is not glamourous because no shady business deals are being signed.

CM KPK undertook his first ever investment signing to Dubai, phooti kismat Charsadda attack happened and he came back the next day. So shameless Noonies sitting in Punjab should have basic decency when they laugh at other provinces' miseries. Their bloody Ganja leader is still holidaying in the UK.

But he has a point, when CPEC was being signed, why did Showbaz went with NS not other CMs? Why does Ganjas' businessmen sons accompany them on all state visits to Saudia Arabia?

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Making a state visit as family visit is absolutely wrong and ganjas should be condemned on that. Also there are so many things about SS and NS and I dont shy from condemning them wherever they are wrong. I remember IK said we will make Pakistan as prosperous that people from other countries will come to Pakistan for doing jobs. Not sure if PTI is following its original agendas as CM KPK also sort of following SS diplomacy strategies.

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I know you are not a typical PMLN apologist nor me being a Punjabi can possibly hate the race I belong to.

But you have to understand that Nooras are wagging proxy war on KPK to seek revenge from PTI leadership that sits in Punjab. Ganjas are effectively ruling Punjab for 6th time, but their hold on Punjab will be so under attack and vulnerable if PTI's first time government manages to make KPK the most competitive province. So they are delaying funds so KPK government cannot start mega development projects as only Showbaz is allowed to build bridges. KPK Government needs truck load of money to revive Tourism - so much development needs to be done in order to make those areas accessible to the public. Hydel economy is the only industry that brings some wealth, if Ganjas are blocking their Hydel profit then from where are they supposed to spend?

They know that even KPK becomes a land of milk and honey, neither Muhajirs are going to vote for PTI nor Sindhis and pro Pakistani Balochistan Sardars always go with whichever party comes in centre - so that leave Punjab as only real battlefield for competition. So Ganjas are well aware of the fact that whatever happens in KPK will have a direct consequences on their Punjabi votebank.

Do you really think Imran would have shut up if KPK had made their Green Line for just Rs.12 billion in comparison to 50 billion Punjabi Metro? Never. So there you go, Ganjas refused to give KPK Gov land for Green Line so their Metro vote in Punjab stays intact.

KPK Gov helps Railway Ministry get 90% of its land back from land mafia, that same Railway Minstry stabs KPK Gov in the back by refusing them the land after wasting two years. Typical delay tactics. Is that fair?

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The thing is if Pashtuns, Balochis, Muhajirs, Sindhis elect an ethnic party, it is largely their own province that suffers. But when Punjabis vote according to ethnic lines - the whole of Pakistan suffers.

With 2/3 majority what has PMLN done for Pakistan? Where are the Reforms and Legislation? Yet we have shameless PMLN supporters paint PMLN as glorified Provisional Punjab government when the party has a duty towards whole of Pakistan.

Yes apart from financially choking a poor province ruled by your political opponents.

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This is wrong. Pakistan now as whole is better than that when Punjabis voted PPP. You also need to understand that PMLn is trying hard to stay relevant. Its not easy a pie for them to win next election without doing anything or being dumb. I know they do revenge politics, which is their old habit. To be honest PPP would the only party that I think do not do revenge politics. In fact they do not do politics let alone taking revenge :D

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The 18th amendment was brought by the PPP. Pakistan as a whole is doing better because it got lucky by having an Army Chief who took his own initiative in regards to fighting terrorism. Whatever improvement you are seeing in Pakistan are nothing but perks of reduction in terrorism. Karachi operation has also been a game changer. So maybe it is a Punjabi Chief they need to thank. As with $46 billion loan infested CPEC, China has just made a $600 billion investment deal with Iran.

PMLN only need to have media, judiciary, bureaucracy, police under their wing to win the next elections. Good luck thinking there will any Electoral Reforms. Have you ever seen shameless patwaris putting pressure on government to bring electoral Reform now that PTI is done spending all their energies on it? There won't be any electoral reform. For previous elections, they did the whole drama of buying expensive magnetic ink which wasn't even used, this year they will give you a similar lollipop.

PMLN can give Punjabis the lollipop of Orange Train and Red Metro but they have absolutely no right do that at expense of choking KPK to stay relevant in the eyes of their Punjabi voters.

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KSE position got better even before RS came. so orange line is being funded by center with the money of KPK?

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If only you knew there is a Pakistan outside of your Punjabistan, you'd know the Azadi Chowk flyover your Showbaz build for Rs5.3 billion, KPK had build it for 1.7 billion the in the same time fame (Bab e Peshawar). So think about next time you blatantly lie. Yes your PMLN is experienced, experienced in doing corruption and taking kickbacks which for people like you is not an issue.

Go ask Pashtuns how much KPK has changed. KPK Government just doesn't have the luxury of stealing other provinces' money so they can spend billions on advertisement.

I can write thesis on how many Reforms KPK government had passed in KPK, but I don't you possess the intelligence to understand their importance and impact. So yes KPK has done absolutely nothing because they don't have a 50 billion Metro bus running 5 billion annual subsidy. Does depoliticized police counts as achievement? Establishment of local courts? Rehabilitation of schools? Road improvement? Cleanness? Forestation? Health Reforms? LG system with funds and powers? Probably not. So sorry to all PMLN supporters here.

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I wish I could have the details. But the following money that belongs to KPK isn't being given to them so they are going somewhere:

Rs100 billion of Net Hydel Profit.
Rs.29 billion Gas and Oil royalty
Rs.119 billion water royalty
Rs 66.28 billion security funds

Most likely the band Ganja thugs will release some funds just 6 months before the elections. So KPK isn't in a position to utilize them, and they will run a campaign against them for that.

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I dont even give braham's bull A$$ to what you think about me

Firstly due to guys like you Pakistan is doomed ........How many institutions showbaz made ?

How many unis or even schools or hospitals he build during his pathetic period

I guess Zilch

So even you are you living in Chicago but still people like you are happy that SS made a disgusting road to your village and now you are going to worship him for the rest of your life

Get a LIFE

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Mashallah … Chashm-e-Badoor … :hula::hula:

Only 45pc of annual KP development budget utilised till June: CGPA - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

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Exactly. Typical mentality of a PMLN supporters. Disturbing obsession with concrete, as if Iraq, Syria, Libya didn't have flashy roads and flyovers - in fact they had state of the art road network. They will never understand that countries are run depoliticised institutions, equality, fairness and transparency.

8th year in Punjab and bloody showbaz still cannot Reform Police and Health, but wants to know what PTI has done in 2 years.

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Misleading report. 45pc was fully spent (payments made) while the rest was ongoing. i.e allocated funds but payments not released.

When there is no corruption, the money usually stays in the Treasury instead going to MNA’s pockets. Important lesson for Nooras.

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Pakistan only SAARC country to improve Corruption Perception Index - The Express Tribune

BTW the** chunkna** type Baba-i-Peshawar flyover is not even have 50% of civil structure involved as in Azadi Chowk Flyover Lahore !

Azadi Chowk Flyover Lahore***

http://www.lookpak.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/azadi-flyover.jpg

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Peshawar Flyover**

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why are you concerned about how PTI utilized their budget?
Answer those question or we assume ganjas are doing best of their revenge politics?