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That day will come too InshaAllah. Clean water projects sound so good. Best of luck for whenever you guys do that.
And yeah you are right. I guess the term would be "paying member" since its an ongoing thing. Paid member sounds the opposite. If it is in your means, you can organize a "paying member registration drive". Me & my brother plan on doing one in the city my family lives in. You can just do it at home & start with your friends & their families.
Re: Lahore Jalsa: Imran Khan's Moment!
That day will come too InshaAllah. Clean water projects sound so good. Best of luck for whenever you guys do that.
And yeah you are right. I guess the term would be "paying member" since its an ongoing thing. Paid member sounds the opposite. If it is in your means, you can organize a "paying member registration drive". Me & my brother plan on doing one in the city my family lives in. You can just do it at home & start with your friends & their families.
this is what every developing country needs , if only one percent of educated people take initiative in this direction , the picture will be different in ten years .
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I can give some credit to bhutto for nuke program, though he did bifurcate Pakistan and did nationalization that sunk the economy of Pakistan. But what did benazir ever achieve for Pakistan? If i remember correctly, the same RPP scandals and even bloody operations were run under her watch, so she is a ***** ***** nothing else!
why bad language , are you o.k.? don't you fear god? better edit it immediately she is no more in this world.
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I guess that we shouldn't criticize hitler or stalin either, as they aren't among us.
It is so hypocritical that the same person who was laughed at for her actions is suddenly made a saint after she made a deal with a "dictator" to come to power.
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I can give some credit to bhutto for nuke program, though he did bifurcate Pakistan and did nationalization that sunk the economy of Pakistan. But what did benazir ever achieve for Pakistan? If i remember correctly, the same RPP scandals and even bloody operations were run under her watch, so she is a ***** ***** nothing else!
You want MQM to have rally against you?
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Sure they can! :D
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lol.
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Coming back to the thread, it definitely seems positive for the country if he can come to power and I think all you Pakistanis must pray for his long life as one cant trust the fanatics who can try to harm him before. Also try to see that as many people should go and cast their vote. After all har ek vote zaroori hota hai...
Re: Lahore Jalsa: Imran Khan’s Moment!
I also asked this question in a previous Imran thread and no ‘anti Imran poster’ had an answer for it…
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You mean to compete against ‘credible’ candidates like Rehman Malik and Babar Awan??? 
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and looks they again ignored it 
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http://pk.msn.com/news/localnews/thenation/2011/november/khanvszardari.aspx?region=pk.&featuredpk1
http://pk.msn.com/news/localnews/thenation/2011/november/khanvszardari.aspx?region=pk.&featuredpk1
Imran factor added to ‘Go-Zardari’ campaign
By: Mubashir Hassan
The future protest rallies of PML-N would not simply be a ‘Go-Zardari-Go’ campaign, as the party is now keeping in view Imran Khan factor whose party put up an impressive show last Sunday in a city which remained a PML-N stronghold in last two decades.
Sources in the PML-N told TheNation that party would devise a new stratagem and revise schedule of its future gatherings to counter PTI’s political moves. The revision is to be made after the return of party president Nawaz Sharif from Turkey. The party has already postponed its next rally in Faisalabad from Nov 4 to Nov 20, after Eidul Azha. It would be followed by two similar events in Gujranwala and Gujrat in the same month, but slight adjustments in the schedule are expected under the revised plan. They said that rallies would also be planned in other provinces besides Punjab, and Nawaz Sharif will himself lead them as far as possible.
Though the PML-N leaders insist the pan revision has nothing to do with Imran Khan’s rally, the insiders said that coming gatherings would be planned keeping in view Imran factor. Political observers believe that PML-N’s anti-Zardari campaign, which caused significant rise in the political temperature last month, has already lost its momentum due to Imran’s mammoth rally and the impending Eid. It will further slow down in the following month of Muharram when political activities are normally avoided to commemorate the martyrdom of Hazrat Imam Hussain (RA) and his companions, they say.
PML-N spokesperson Pervaiz Rashid on Monday also hinted at slight changes in the schedule due to coming month of Muharram. He said the Faisalabad rally has been postponed due to its proximity with Eid. Pervaiz also confirmed that PML-N chief may revise the plan of party’s anti-government campaign after his return from Turkey
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They don’t have any answer of their current party corruption so how they can give reply 
They ll sasy Taryaan 
and ayashyaan of IK in past. But that they forget their each & every past so called leader had the same moral values and current & in coming too 
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Whose rally was bigger: The politics of crowd-counting Provincial agencies pronounce PML-N the winner, federal officials say PTI had the bigger crowd.
By Asad Kharal
Published: November 1, 2011
Provincial agencies pronounce PML-N the winner, federal officials say PTI had the bigger crowd. PHOTO: EXPRESS/FILE
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LAHORE: ** Who had the bigger rally this past weekend: Punjab’s ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz or the surging Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaaf? The answer varies widely depending on who you ask – and, of course, who the counters are reporting to.
**Even though they come up with varying estimates, provincial law enforcement and intelligence agencies – answerable, it ought to be mentioned, ultimately to Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif – say that the PML-N narrowly beat out the PTI in terms of crowd count. Federal government agencies – under the supervision of the PML-N’s rival Pakistan Peoples Party – say that the PTI rally comfortably outdid the PML-N rally.
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**The Special Branch of the Punjab Police estimated that the PTI rally on Sunday attracted between 40,000 and 45,000 people, while the PML-N rally on Friday attracted between 45,000 and 50,000. Provincial government figures suggest that about half of the PTI rally’s attendees were from Lahore while the remaining were from the rest of Punjab and even Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa and the tribal areas.
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**The devil, however, lies in the details. The Punjab police report claims, somewhat astonishingly, that as of 4:14 pm on Friday there were only about 3,000 people at the PML-N rally venue, a number that somehow swelled to just fewer than 50,000 over the next hour and a half.
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By contrast, the Special Branch also admits that there were around 8,000 people by 3:15 pm at the PTI rally on Sunday, a number that they then claim rose much more slowly to less than 45,000 by 6 pm.
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The numbers from the federal government’s agencies, on the other hand, could not be more different. The Intelligence Bureau – the only agency directly answerable to the civilian government in Islamabad – estimates that the PML-N’s crowd was between 20,000 and 22,000 people while the PTI’s crowd may have been as high as 60,000. The IB also estimates that, if the number of people unable to reach the venue due to traffic are counted, the total number of attendees at the PTI rally may well approach 100,000.
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**Federal agencies seemed to agree that the bulk of attendees at the PML-N rally came from outside Lahore, putting the proportion of Lahoris attending the Shahbaz Sharif speech at between 20% and 25%.
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Both federal and provincial intelligence and law enforcement agencies seem to have made elaborate preparations for monitoring both rallies, and seem to have paid much attention to estimating crowd sizes, according to sources familiar with the matter.
Field staffers were deployed by the Punjab Police Special Branch and Security Branch, the Inter-Services Intelligence, the Intelligence Bureau and Military Intelligence. Agents sent reports every few minutes with details such as the number and types of vehicles, the names and designations of those who led the convoys, the point of origin of every vehicle, their time of departure, etc.
Messages were then relayed from field agents by telephone and text messages to operational leaders in Lahore, who then forwarded reports by fax as well as special messenger to their respective senior officials.
One method that was a favourite of all agencies in estimating the number of people was how much area the crowd covered, and then multiplying that number with an estimate of density, calculated through the use of photographs and videos of the crowd, according to a senior intelligence official who was involved in covering both events. Other methods used include deriving estimates from the numbers of vehicles that drove to the venue.
“Agencies have to be very careful about making assessments of the numerical strength of the crowds because we have to justify [our estimates] through facts and figures,” he said, requesting not to be identified.
However, an official from another agency, who has extensive experience in monitoring crowds, said that agencies frequently exaggerate or revise downwards the numbers of the crowds they cover for political reasons.
“Civil servants responsible for [producing estimates] cannot afford the displeasure of their political masters who have no stomach to digest the truth,” he said.
In any case, the numbers suggest that the minnows, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf seem to have, even in the worst case scenario, matched the behemoth PML-N.
Published in The Express Tribune, November 1[SUP]st[/SUP], 2011.* *
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Taryaan 
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Great Speech ! JI O Imran Khan.
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Punjab govt. is counting heads of donkeys to save the democracy :)
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Good show by the sheer number of people who turned out, disappointed about his speech, rich on rhetoric, short on details.
But if we consider how many genuine points he touched on, it far surpasses his previous persona of mentioning issues but not offering any specific solutions. This time around, he spoke of the issues, and outlined solutions and a brief view of the PTI manifesto. He truly spoke as a Political Candidate. I felt his speech was calculated and touched on all important domestic and international issues concerning Pakistan.
If nothing else, PTI has just earned itself a mention everytime Elections are spoken of in Pakistan in the coming months. It has now emerged as a party that can take the big wigs to task.
On the foreign policy front, he didn't antagonize any party/nation unnecessarily whether it's India, or USA/Nato. And kept it realistic as far as actual achievement goes, if he gets elected to the Big Office.
*What remains to be seen is:
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a. Will this momentum keep growing?
b. Will the same people who came to the rally, also actually vote for him?
c. Who will he choose as his candidates in time for Elections. I would rather he choose a sincere Pakistanis that has not been in politics, but is an expert of his/her field, than to choose a tested face for the sake of winning elections (a la Musharraf style).
Re: Lahore Jalsa: Imran Khan's Moment!
Good show by the sheer number of people who turned out, disappointed about his speech, rich on rhetoric, short on details.
yeah I would have been mush better like "MEENN do buttho hoon.... ek stage per khara hy .... ek stage per khara hy ... dosra ...
dosra..... app logon ky dermain hyyyyyyyy "
or better......"tum loitny boootooooo maro gay har gar sy boootooo nikly ga"
or nawaz sharif style...... "yeah faislAbad naheen..... yeah faisalAAA.... yeah faislAAAA qun hy...... "
I mean come on..... PPP is talking about content of the speech ?? what a joke!!
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yeah I would have been mush better like "MEENN do buttho hoon.... ek stage per khara hy .... ek stage per khara hy ... dosra ... dosra..... app logon ky dermain hyyyyyyyy "
or better......"tum loitny boootooooo maro gay har gar sy boootooo nikly ga"
or nawaz sharif style...... "yeah faislAbad naheen..... yeah faisalAAA.... yeah faislAAAA qun hy...... "
I mean come on..... PPP is talking about content of the speech ?? what a joke!!
yep PPP at the moment is a joke and Imran has a chance to make his mark. Lets hope he doesnt blow it.