Kayani was too scared to fight against miltants : Musharraf

Why this dictator is blaming Gen Kayani now? Or is it a part of his scapegoat campaign. i’m sure most army generals wont like it to blame everything on his successor. What did he himself do for that except hiding OBL under his nose.

Musharraf blames Kayani for delay in action against Taliban - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Bahzad Alam Khan Updated about 6 hours ago

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KARACHI: Former army chief retired Gen Pervez Musharraf believes that one of the reasons why the country’s security challenges have become almost insurmountable now is because his successor, retired Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, was too scared to take action against militants.
In an interview with Dawn on Tuesday, Gen Musharraf said that it was Gen Kayani’s own reluctance — and not poor judgement — that caused him to not launch an operation against the Taliban.
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“You see, the main issue is that when a government is inactive, it requires an army chief to go and coax it into action. That’s what [Gen] Raheel has done. So either Gen Kayani was scared or too reticent or too reserved. He didn’t want to go and discuss this matter.”
[HR][/HR]‘I don’t think there should be martial law’

[HR][/HR]When this reporter pointed out that Gen Kayani must have gone to the then Pakistan Peoples Party government for an extension in his term as army chief — and the PPP government was said to have acquiesced within hours — Gen Musharraf said: “But that was for his own person. The army was clear in its views as a whole. They wanted action, even in Kayani’s days. Kayani has to be asked why he did not act [against militants]. I wouldn’t be able to comment on that. But the delay was all in that period.”
The former military ruler recalls that his government took on Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan chief Mulla Fazlullah in 2007. “We acted against him and defeated him. Peaceful elections were held in 2008. The turnout was good. The Awami National Party — and not religious parties — came to power in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. And then Fazlullah was allowed to return and set on fire 13 girls schools. He had the tourist resort in Malam Jabba torched. No action was taken till he crossed the Shangla Hills and almost blocked the Karakoram Highway. When there was international hue and cry that the militants were only 100 miles away from Islamabad, then they woke up.”
Apart from blaming Gen Kayani for his pusillanimity even when a wave of terrorism swept through the country, Gen Musharraf also feels he was let down by his successor when political adversaries thought he was vulnerable — he had taken off the all-powerful army uniform — and threatened him with an impeachment move.
Was he disappointed? “To a degree, yes. He could have helped out there. But, you see, I didn’t want to sit in the presidency as a useless president. I am not that type.” Had Gen Kayani made it clear that in a stand-off between Gen Musharraf and the PPP government, he would be neutral. “Yes.”
But Gen Musharraf seems to be quite happy with his successor’s successor, Gen Raheel Sharif. So much so that he does not mind Gen Sharif becoming a globetrotting army chief, hobnobbing with world leaders and conducting the country’s foreign policy.
“It’s not he who’s doing that, it’s those countries who are giving him that stature. The army is the only stabilising institution in Pakistan. That is why they give importance to the military chief. Especially when they also see the degree of bad governance going on. They want to see where the stability comes from. That is why they give him importance. He should take it. He should be proud of it. Look, international relations largely depend on personalities. Agar aap nay ja kay kookro ban kay baith jana hai, to aap to kya importance milay gi.”
Emboldened by Gen Sharif’s initiatives against militancy — especially after the gruesome attack on the Army Public School in Peshawar — the Muttahida Qaumi Movement has called for the imposition of martial law in Sindh? Does Gen Musharraf think the call for martial law is reasonable and fair?
“I don’t think there should be martial law. And I have my reasons. Pakistan is facing the worst situation in its history. The economy is not doing well. Terrorism is in all the provinces. It has never been this bad. The army is a fallback force in the country. We call it in the military, a force in being. Its potential consists in being. If you use it or consume it, it’s gone. If you were to use the military, and suppose in the present situation of turmoil, they are unable to rectify the socio-economic ills of Pakistan, you’d have consumed this fallback force.
NRO deal, with the benefit of hindsight
Gen Musharraf feels bad having struck the NRO deal with former prime minister Benazir Bhutto. “I shouldn’t have done that. It impacted me very wrongly and the political realities of Pakistan. My popularity went down because of the NRO deal.”
Dismissing the assertion made by former US secretary of state Condoleezza Rice in her memoirs that she brokered a deal between Gen Musharraf and Ms Bhutto, he recalls that the NRO deal was actually aimed at “weaning away the PPP and Benazir” from the group of political parties that were agreeing on the Charter of Democracy in London.
“I met Benazir in Abu Dhabi. She had three demands. First, remove Article 58-2B [of the Constitution]. The moment she said that, I said out of the question. And the way I said it, she immediately conceded. She said alright put this aside. She demanded an end to the restriction on a person becoming a prime minister for a third time and withdrawal of corruption cases. I demanded that she wouldn’t return before the elections. She asked me when the elections would be held. I said roughly in the first or second week of Dec 2007. She said she would be able to come before New Year. And, on a lighter note, she asked me if she invited me to a New Year party, would I come. I said I would. This was the level of understanding of what she had to do.”
Gen Musharraf returned to Pakistan to discuss Ms Bhutto’s demands with his political partners, notably the Chaudhrys of Gujrat. Apparently, the veteran politicians told Gen Musharraf that if he removed the third-time prime ministership condition, he would merely confirm rumours already swirling in the country that the United States wanted Gen Musharraf to be president and Ms Bhutto to be his prime minister. They, however, had no issues with the corruption cases.
“They said that out of 11 cases of corruption against Benazir and Zardari, they have been acquitted in eight cases. They might get acquitted in the remaining three also. That got me convinced. Prime minister [Shaukat Aziz] used to attend all those meetings.”
Trial or vendetta
Gen Musharraf grimaces when he is reminded — apologetically — that former president Asif Ali Zardari almost always refers to him as a billa. However, when he is asked the reason for Mr Zardari’s animus towards him, he chuckles and says: “No reason. He has made the best of everything. I know he knows that I didn’t have Benazir assassinated, though he keeps maligning me on this issue. And the language is certainly unbecoming.”
Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, however, has a valid reason to bear a grudge against Gen Musharraf. The former strongman ousted Mr Sharif in a coup in Oct 1999.
“Nawaz Sharif has a reason, but he’s taking it to an extent where it has become an issue of instability … my trial, being hostile towards me, putting my name on the ECL [Exit Control List] … these things are not going down well with the army … my trial is vendetta. I am the only former head of state in Pakistan who has been to the lowest courts in the subordinate judiciary.”
Gen Musharraf’s travails will come out in the sequel to his autobiography that he is updating these days.
Published in Dawn, January 28th, 2015
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Re: Kayani was too scared to fight against miltants : Musharraf

I think their differences are coming out now, after all Kayani succeeded him...Can he say anything about Raheel Sharif?

Re: Kayani was too scared to fight against miltants : Musharraf

What a pathetic corrupt old man!!

Almost 10 yrs in power and he let Taliban expand and grow!

Re: Kayani was too scared to fight against miltants : Musharraf

And when he left guess under whose watch they continued to expand and grow.

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He was responsible for many bad policies, but you are making a silly point just for the sake of it.

You think Zardari had control over Army's policy on Bin Laden, Taliban, etc?

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Silly excuse.

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A simple fact which you will not acknowledge.

It is silly of you to be obsessed with Zardari - especially when the post is not even about him.

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I rarely agree with Mush, but in this case he is right. Btw, Kayani should not have been given extension by PPP govt. That was terrible idea, too. That man turned out to be simply incompetent.

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Tabhi to kehtay hai, “Muchch na’i, te kuch na’e”. :phajja:

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woh tou Musharraf ki bhi nahin :snooty:

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Ooper vaali picture main aasaar to hain. :hehe:

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acha hay uski moonchain :slight_smile:

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The most interesting part I see in his blame game is that it may be the first time he's actually holding a fellow uniform general responsible for one of the hottest issues while managing to spare the democratic leader.
It may be an indirect message asking them lets start talking.

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maybe indirectly prompting raheel to play his role in getting him freed

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woohoo.. just read this, even though its a couple of days late: Now it all makes sense. He’s one hell of an opportunist

Govt may let Musharraf fly to S. Arabia - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

Govt may let Musharraf fly to S. Arabia

Iftikhar A. Khan Updated Jan 25, 2015 08:04am

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Former president Gen.(r) Pervez Musharraf speaks during Annual Convention of Youth Parliament 2014. — INP

ISLAMABAD: The government has decided in principle to allow former military ruler retired General Pervez Musharraf to leave the country, an official source told Dawn on Saturday.
He said Gen Musharraf had filed a written application with the Interior Ministry, seeking permission to fly to Saudi Arabia to condole the death of King Abdullah.
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In the application addressed to Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, Mr Musharraf – whose name is on the exit control list (ECL) – sought a relaxation of the travel ban placed on him so that he could fly to Saudi Arabia and meet members of the royal family.
The source said the interior minister was among the few members of the cabinet who had been trying to persuade the PML-N leadership to soften its stance on Mr Musharraf, particularly when the PTI’s sit-in was ongoing and there were rumours of a military takeover.
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However, there was no official confirmation of the decision from the interior ministry, which is being run without a spokesman for months.
A spokesman for the Prime Minister’s Office, however, clarified late on Saturday night that “we have not received any request from Musharraf for permission to travel abroad”.
But retired Maj Gen Rashid Qureshi, a spokesman for the former president, said that a request had been sent to the ministry, but no formal communication had so far been received in response to the request. He also expressed surprise over the statement from the PM’s Office and described it as a lie.
“The prime minister knows nothing if he does not know what is happening in the interior ministry,” he remarked.
SLAIN CLERIC’S SON: In a related development, Haroon Rashid, the son of former Lal Masjid chief cleric Abdul Rasheed, who was killed during a military operation in July 2007, filed a petition with the Interior Ministry on Saturday, urging it not to remove Mr Musharraf’s name from the ECL until a verdict in cases pending against him over the murder of his father and grandmother.
In the petition, sent to the Interior Ministry through Tariq Asad advocate, he asked the ministry not to allow Mr Musharraf to leave Pakistan “for the sake of justice”. Otherwise, the petition warned, the Interior Ministry would be responsible for frustrating justice.
It said that if the former president, who faces multiple high-profile cases, including high treason and murder, was allowed to proceed abroad, he would be able to escape his trial and would never come back.
Published in Dawn January 25th , 2015

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Why does everybody fall over each other to pay tribute to the dead of the House of Saud, including Baama ? :hmmm:

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oh that excuse

BB never had control over army (1988)
BB accepted the govt without any power
Zardari never had control over Army, Taliban etc
NS does not control foreign policy

all "after the fact" excuses just like Musharraf's

If they were/are all so powerless, why assume power? why "deal" to make Govt and suck blood of awam. Go out and tell the public that Army was offering us Govt without any foreign policy control, and we rejected it. "Leadership" main itna dum tu hona cheheyee.

and on main topic, this is not a "news", ISPR's X head (I forgot his name) has already told this to world (BBC) that Kiyani was VERY reluctant to do the operation. Musharraf should not have used the word "scared" though (if he did)

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yet Naseerullah claimed to have created Taliban :konfused:

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if I am not wrong after Mush dictatorship we got the worst incompetent govt of your beloved hero. So how is it not connected. He took over the govt and turned out to be the biggest coward. Didn't even have the courage to go to the funerals of his own murdered leaders because he was afraid. Great leader, great followers. Keep it up.

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Military has always upper hand over civilians. Whether it was ZAB, BB, NS or Zardari. Any time they want to kick legally elected government, they did it. I know you have soft corner of the tin commando because he is a muhajir. Don't your emotions carried away to ignore reality.