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It also tells for withdrawal of Pakistani forces, did Pakistan withdraw?
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Read my post again related to AFSPA. Think why Pakistan supports those who calls for stone pelting and violent protest.
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Read my post again related to AFSPA. Think why Pakistan supports those who calls for stone pelting and violent protest.
This is very lame comment... 14 year old girl can not handle gun.. and force killing her by pelleting...
Kashmir will remain bone of contention because people like you can not think rationally.
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Sorry… I was not aware of your gender…
Bhai Sb… Kashmir is disputed territory.. Agree..
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I can see innocent people are getting killed and injured and I can see who incites them to go on roads with woman and children and who supports those who incites. Separatists don't want prosperity of state and jobs for the people but they will continue to ask people to throw stone even if people are loosing lives and getting injured.
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Sorry... I was not aware of your gender...
Bhai Sb... Kashmir is disputed territory.. Agree..
It's okay. I have mentioned many times here that I am a male I thought you know. People confuse with this name because there are both males and females of this name Anjul.
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It is very serious to have a committed leader for the purpose
Bilawal Bhutto is one and only committed leader for liberation of Kashmir
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What Gandhian tactics? Pakistan again proved that it will continue supporting militants (I mean "good ones" like Hijbul Muhajideen, Lashkar e toiba, Afghan Taliban, Jaish e Muhammad ) by condemning killing of Hijbul Mujahideen commander Burhan Wani who called for stone pelting on forces so that more and more citizens get killed or injured in retaliation by forces so more and more will join militant ranks. Earlier a commander of the same Hijbul Mujahideen commander Mast Gul had organised a terror attack in Peshawar. You see, Pakistan observed black day to mourn killing of Burhan Wani but didn't observe when Peshawar children were killed. India too is far away from Gandhian tactics. Mere pouring money won't help and 26 years of draconian AFSPA has only worsen the situation. India should decrease forces' presence but I don't think Pakistan will stop nourishing terrorists. So many people have died and the "non-lethal" pellet guns are causing serious injuries. Separatists constantly call for violent protests and Kashmiris are choosing path of violence. Separatists say they don't want economic packages, don't want jobs, incentives, autonomy but freedom. Separatists have successfully romanticized the issue with religion by religious cleansing of Kashmiri Pandits. Listen their slogans, they are hum kya chahte hain Azadi along with Azadi ka matlab kya La ilah illallah (there was a popular slogan Pakistan ka matlab kya). They are showing Pakistani flags, ISIS flags and many a time both together. India should come up with a concrete policy else she will loose them to fanatic separatists.
Pakistan got should encourage peaceful demonstrations and promote Ghanaian tactics. Regardless Indian security forces will murder people without remorse. whether Indians employ Ghanaian tactics is irrelevant. the British didn't use them either.
Pakistan should also disallow Indians from mischaractering the conflict and labeling anyone it chooses to label a terrorist a terrorist through whatever channels it gas available. The great tragedy is that the Indian state is allowed to get away with the state run terrorism it inflicts on the people of Kashmir.
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What Gandhian tactics? Pakistan again proved that it will continue supporting militants (I mean "good ones" like Hijbul Muhajideen, Lashkar e toiba, Afghan Taliban, Jaish e Muhammad ) by condemning killing of Hijbul Mujahideen commander Burhan Wani who called for stone pelting on forces so that more and more citizens get killed or injured in retaliation by forces so more and more will join militant ranks. Earlier a commander of the same Hijbul Mujahideen commander Mast Gul had organised a terror attack in Peshawar. You see, Pakistan observed black day to mourn killing of Burhan Wani but didn't observe when Peshawar children were killed. India too is far away from Gandhian tactics. Mere pouring money won't help and 26 years of draconian AFSPA has only worsen the situation. India should decrease forces' presence but I don't think Pakistan will stop nourishing terrorists. So many people have died and the "non-lethal" pellet guns are causing serious injuries. Separatists constantly call for violent protests and Kashmiris are choosing path of violence. Separatists say they don't want economic packages, don't want jobs, incentives, autonomy but freedom. Separatists have successfully romanticized the issue with religion by religious cleansing of Kashmiri Pandits. Listen their slogans, they are hum kya chahte hain Azadi along with Azadi ka matlab kya La ilah illallah (there was a popular slogan Pakistan ka matlab kya). They are showing Pakistani flags, ISIS flags and many a time both together. India should come up with a concrete policy else she will loose them to fanatic separatists.
Pakistan got should encourage peaceful demonstrations and promote Ghanaian tactics. Regardless Indian security forces will murder people without remorse. whether Indians employ Ghanaian tactics is irrelevant. the British didn't use them either.
Pakistan should also disallow Indians from mischaractering the conflict and labeling anyone it chooses to label a terrorist a terrorist through whatever channels it gas available.
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Pakistan got should encourage peaceful demonstrations and promote Ghanaian tactics. Regardless Indian security forces will murder people without remorse. whether Indians employ Ghanaian tactics is irrelevant. the British didn't use them either.
Pakistan should also disallow Indians from mischaractering the conflict and labeling anyone it chooses to label a terrorist a terrorist through whatever channels it gas available.
Yeah, you are right that Pakistan should encourage peaceful demonstration and promote Gandhian tactics, I hope so..atleast she should stop supporting militants who incite people to choose path of violence. To know what British did one has to read history. And yes Hizbul Mujahideen, Lashkar e Toiba, Jaish e Muhammad are declared terrorist outfits by not only India but also European Union, USA and some other countries.
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Yeah, you are right that Pakistan should encourage peaceful demonstration and promote Gandhian tactics, I hope so..atleast she should stop supporting militants who incite people to choose path of violence. To know what British did one has to read history. And yes Hizbul Mujahideen, Lashkar e Toiba, Jaish e Muhammad are declared terrorist outfits by not only India but also European Union, USA and some other countries.
So long as Wani isn't attacking civilians, he isn't a terrorist now is he... Who r the terrorists in Kashmir? if your home were surrounded by a foreign military force which has the legal authority to murder you or anyone u know with impunity, arrest u and torture u till your crippled, and you have no legal or political means to defend yourself, you would feel rather terrorized now wouldn't you.
to know what the Indians have done, one only needs to read history...
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So long as Wani isn't attacking civilians, he isn't a terrorist now is he... Who r the terrorists in Kashmir? if your home were surrounded by a foreign military force which has the legal authority to murder you or anyone u know with impunity, arrest u and torture u till your crippled, and you have no legal or political means to defend yourself, you would feel rather terrorized now wouldn't you.
to know what the Indians have done, one only needs to read history...
So those who joined terrorist groups and haven't killed any civilian are not terrorists, just wow. And it's not like that these groups have not killed civilians be them Kashmiri Pundits or Mumbai attack victims or casualties in other attacks. Foreign military force? it's the same military who helped them in flood in 2014, govt spent more that US $ 270 million besides other assistance and Kashmir is legally annexed to India by instrument of accession unlike some hook or crook method like training and equipping "Kabailis" with Arms and sending them for looting and capturing cities.
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So those who joined terrorist groups and haven't killed any civilian are not terrorists, just wow. And it's not like that these groups have not killed civilians be them Kashmiri Pundits or Mumbai attack victims or anything. Foreign military force? it's the same military who helped them in flood in 2014, govt spent more that US $ 270 million besides other assistance and Kashmir is legally annexed to India by instrument of accession unlike some hook or crook method like training and equipping "Kabailis" with Arms and sending them for looting and capturing cities.
This is also the same military force that denies millions of people basic rights, murders with impunity, torture and maims... You think Kashmiri peoe protest because their bored?
Pakistan is justified in helping the Kashmiris fight their occupiers and oppressors... Means is debatable. Pakistan wouldn't be the first to support militants fight foreign occupiers.
And how many "heroes" of the Indian freedom struggle, glorified by India, would be considered terrorists today? You recall how many civilians were killed by so called freedom fighters of 1853? You choose to call anyone who struggles against by any means a terrorist because your on the side of the occupiers. Anyone with even an iota of morality would be against the occupation. many descent Indians support the Pakistani stance.
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This is also the same military force that denies millions of people basic rights, murders with impunity, torture and maims... You think Kashmiri peoe protest because their bored? Pakistan is justified in helping the Kashmiris fight their occupiers and oppressors... Means is debatable. Pakistan wouldn't be the first to support militants fight foreign occupiers. And how many "heroes" of the Indian freedom struggle, glorified by India, would be considered terrorists today? You recall how many civilians were killed by so called freedom fighters of 1853?
Now you have changed your stance and come in line with Pakistan to support terrorists. Great.
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Will you not call Taliban (who wage war against Pakistan) terrorists, those who attacked Peshawar Army Public school?
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Now you have changed your stance and come in line with Pakistan to support terrorists. Great.
Killing civilians always wrong, fighting Indian occupation, morally justified... Where is the disconnect? you should be supportive of this line of reasoning as u would support all those Indians who fought the British...
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Will you not call Taliban (who wage war against Pakistan) terrorists, those who attacked Peshawar Army Public school?
Taliban also murder civilians and oppress the population under their control... thus they are terrorists. Also, Pakistan doesn't occupy their territory. India on the other hand has no moral standing in Kashmir. The people of Kashmir never choose to be Indian citizens.
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Killing civilians always wrong, fighting Indian occupation, morally justified... Where is the disconnect? you should be supportive of this line of reasoning as u would support all those Indians who fought the British...
You didn't read my comment that they also attack and kill civilians. And you don't call the them terrorists. United jihad council, the umbrella organization of these groups which is declared terrorist by India, USA and UN but you don't call them terrorist.
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Taliban also murder civilians and oppress the population under their control... thus they are terrorists. Also, Pakistan doesn't occupy their territory. India on the other hand has no moral standing in Kashmir. The people of Kashmir never choose to be Indian citizens.
These so called jihadi groups also kill civilians.
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You didn't read my comment that they also attack and kill civilians. And you don't call the them terrorists. United jihad council, the umbrella organization of these groups which is declared terrorist by India, USA and UN but you don't call them terrorist.
Anyone attacking civilians we define as terrorists... I don't support their means, but the cause is just.