Karachi turning into a ghetto?

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^^ i am not saying that karachi doesn't deserve any funding from other provinces or at the national level; after all, a city that pumps 65% of the national GDP should get the lion's share.. although gwadar port might now get it (after so many years of labor some newbie gets the fruit eh). i'm only trying to emphasize the importance of "self-produced funds" that karachi needs; without it karachi will be largely incomplete no matter how much the outer funding is, assuming that we get our "deserved" share at the national level.

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:rolleyes:

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these are self produced funds, its value add work that karachi does..
why do cities, and countries set up lare international ports and all, why do companies set up oil refineries, at each step of the process there is value add, and karachi is a huge part of the value add wen it comes to Pakistan.

Now if we forego that, the headquarters of companies, being a financial hub for the country etc means it has a big part in the country's GDP.

lets figure it out and give it to karachi., if baluch ppl can ask for their share of proceeds from gas, then karachi folks can ask for their fair share of all the value add and all the revenue generation that takes place in teh city.

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^^ a very valid point but perhaps you didn't get what i meant by "self-produced funds". implicitly, nearly all funds - whether locally based or in other provinces - are self-produced. but i used the term "self-produced funds" to refer specifically to the money created by something that's going on IN karachi, not being done by karachi in other provinces and then karachi has to depend on the decision of some other province to get them. you might interchange the term "local funds" for easier understanding.

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sorry fraudz, but right now i have something else to bring to light. check out this article at dawn’s local page: http://www.dawn.com/2007/04/27/local5.htm

man, what’s wrong with them? it isn’t as difficult to benefit the people and environment at the same time as our politicians have made it. i am supporting the construction of traffic solutions, but not at the expense of environment. why can’t they just encourage public transport or some other simpler, more efficient way of controlling traffic without harming the environment? or i think right now the only solution left is creaming out our population. what do you think?

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retroguy02,

The best solution to Karachi transport problem is to build sub-way system with central station at Guru Mandir. Government should run public transport and ban private bus/wagon service in Karachi. Completely ban making of multistory buildings and destroying old houses, unless they are replaced with new ones.

AH should go to India and ask for help in designing and provision of cars for the subway. At least he should return something back to Karachi where he has earned billions through ‘bhuttas’.

FARID

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Couldn't agree more

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another story from dawn: http://www.dawn.com/2007/04/29/local13.htm. God, Karachi really has to get started by now.

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That is the first positive step by AH. Hope they would listen to their 'spiritual pir' since this is not call for 'butta wasooli'!!

FARID

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^^ I hope you’re being sarcastic - in fact, you probably are. But we’ve got to be realistic and admit that it’s not only the govt and higher-ups who are responsible for the horrible state of cleanliness in the city; it’s also the people, not limited to a specific class. Interestingly, today Dawn itself has posted a response to its own post, be sure to check out this one as well: http://www.dawn.com/2007/04/30/local13.htm

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While several things have ‘improved’ on paper since 9/11, on the ground, the situation remains the same, if not worse

http://www.dawn.com/2007/05/01/letted.htm#6

ENCROACHMENTS along Gujjar Nullah from Shafique Morr to Piala Hotel in North Nazimabad town are fast developing. Blockage of sewerage lines is a serious issue, in addition to electricity and water problems.

The whole drainage system is broken at different points to get unauthorised connections which disrupted the sewage flow.

Besides, natural outlets for rainwater have been closed by wall-to-wall construction along the nullah which creates heavy pools of stagnant water on surrounding streets.

Will the authorities concerned look into the matter before the rainy season sets in.

AZHAR ARIF
Karachi

Do u think i can flood?
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More complaints from the people of Pakistan speak about the worsening situation on the ground

POwER BREAKDOWNS

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=53717

Come the hot weather and power breakdowns hit us again. These power outages not only cause severe inconvenience to the people in general, but many electronic appliances are also damaged. Then most shops do not have generators that lead to the spoiling for perishable items. Most frozen food and dairy products get bad quickly. Continuous melting and freezing of food products, for example ice cream, can lead to generation of bacteria causing diseases like typhoid, diarrhoea and other gastrological diseases.

Qasim Maudood Suharwardy

Karachi

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Our competent president Gen. Musharraf may go on with his ridiculous "Pakistan is a dynamic, progressive..." speech if he wants to, but I will still stick to facts and suggest that we solve grassroots issues first. Forget modernism; for Karachi, currently, talking about anything but basics is talking too much.

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No sign of the govt being able to provide electricity, it is getting worse

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=56465

‘Load-shedding to continue’
KESC chief says outages to persist for the next four to five years

By our correspondent

Karachi

Load-shedding will continue for the next four to five years in Karachi as demand for power is increasing at a rapid pace, said Chief Executive officer (CEO) Karachi Electric Supply Corporation (KESC), Lt General (retd) Syed Mohammed Amjad.

However, during these four to five years load-shedding will decrease gradually and by next year Karachi will get 190 megawatts power through a new power plant. An additional 190 megawatts†will be supplied in May 2008 through the Bin Qasim power plant. Amjad disclosed these details while talking to newsmen after a meeting with the City Nazim, Syed Mustafa Kamal at the latter’s office on Thursday. The City Nazim and KESC CEO discussed strategies to end load-shedding and problems faced by the citizens.

A campaign will be launched through nazims to save electricity, the CEO said. It was also decided that Amjad will meet all town nazims to come up with some solution for the power crisis. Amjad said that even today demand of power is 3000 megawatts but by 2016 this demand will shoot up to 6000 megawatts. At present the power supply from the KESC is 1650 megawatts while Wapda provides seven megawatt. In bad times Wapda has even provided power up to 850 megawatts. Furthermore, every year nine and a half per cent increases in the demand of power supply in Karachi. At the time of privatisation, the KESC was generating 1170 megawatts and with re-enforcing various power generations it went up to 1380 to 1390 megawatts.

Amjad said that three under-construction grid stations will be completed by the end of June, while tender processes for the construction of nine grid stations will be done in two or three days, improving the load-management system. Furthermore, invitation for IPPs for installation of power plants and tendering processes for the installation of 450 megawatts power plant has been started and on June 4 an agreement will be signed with the Asian Development Bank for its financing. Kamal lauded the efforts of the KESC†in controlling load-shedding and said that positive results will soon be visible.

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People should start paying for electricity. Otherwise don't complain.

Bijli churatai hai, or kehtai hain 'bijli gay bijli gai'

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Yeh Pakistan ki bijli gay kab say hogaee...humari amreeka ki bijli to straight hai...

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^^ your gluttonous amreeka is half the reason why there is such a huge gap between the rich and poor.

don't the people already pay electricity bills? that's what i know. i still don't get that why the hell didn't ppl in KHI still pick up with alternative energy. perhaps we should follow the example of the middle east and start charging our people for electricity, gas, water and SEWERAGE (yes, separately).. that might teach a good lesson.

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Even in the best area’s there are so many electricity problems.

Apparently 8 yrs of rule is not enough to make the situation better, rather it has gotten worse.

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=59942

Power riots: Day 6

KARACHI: Electricity breakdowns were experienced almost all day in the posh areas of the city. The citizens’ protests continued Saturday, in various areas of Karachi on the unannounced power outs.

Nine out of 52 major grid stations of the KESC were shut down due to a fault in a 220-KV high-tension transmission line, according to a KESC spokesman. The grid stations included Clifton, Defence, Keamari, Saddar, Gizri, Lalazar and Guarden.

II Chundrigar Road, Jackson Police limits, Keamari, Clifton, Defence, Saddar, MA Jinnah Road and other old city and posh areas experienced power shutdowns from noon till evening.

The KESC spokesman said that the repair work on four grid stations has been completed and the rest will be worked upon during Saturday night.

Near Teen Talwar Chowrangi, residents and shopkeepers combined to protest against the power failures. The protesters burnt tires on main Clifton road, and blocked the road with electric poles and other objects. The road, including the KPT underpass, was blocked for an hour.

The traffic going towards Clifton was diverted towards Gizri and Mai Kolachi Road, which jammed traffic on the surrounding arteries of main Clifton road, especially Mai Kolachi Road.

Similarly, the shopkeepers in Saddar protested in front of Paradise Hotel, burnt tires, pelted stones at ongoing traffic, and clashed with the police. The police used teargas to disperse the protesters and this continued for about two hours.

The protesters dispersed after dusk. The traffic in Saddar and its surrounding areas was suspended from evening to night. Due to the protest, traffic load on II Chundrigarh Road, MA Jinnah Road and Fowara Chowk increased and caused severe traffic jams.

Smaller protests also took place in New Karachi, Old Golimar, Liaquatabad, and Nazimabad.

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Answer to these problems are very simple yet complex:

  1. Kalabagh Dam
  2. Nuclear power
  3. Stop the leakage through illegal connections and non-payment of bills
  4. Stop the influx of economic immigrants into Karachi, currently running at 7%-10% pa.
  5. Send back the Afghan refugees.
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Good ideas, but when you have such a corrupt and ineffective govt, nothing will happen