‘ JI will organise jihadis’

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His point is

The only responsible for all the Situation is JI and their Pakistan loving Policies.

Plus

Nato should Lure Taliban to Negotiate with them in Afganistan, but in Pakistan they should not do this.

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Well i don't think you get the point here , a Single Agency or a Group cannot be responsible for a mess this big. and i am pretty sure you have no idea how the intelligence like this work , and i will not waste my time telling you that , bcoz that is not the Topic here.

So just think from a open mind once & you might get your answer.

PTI Larkana Jalsa
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Re: ‘ JI will organise jihadis’

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Man , I just replied after reading the whole dialoge among you people to second your point as that sounded me rational.

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^ I respect your opinion but only JI is not responsible there are too many factors behind it taht are Supporting people like them , that is something we all need to understand & realize.

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Again - a couple of your own guys repeating ‘they have proof’ is not proof. You Gilani, Musharaf, Malik etc all periodicall come out with the ‘we have proof’ and when confronted simply back off. Why is that? Gilani even went to the extent of lying about a dossier he handed to Manmohan Singh - the latter openly discredited that and Gilani had to back track.

If you have any proof, why not be man enough and submit it to the public scrutiny?

BTW displaying painted ammo is not proof. We all know you guys are pretty good at painting stuff

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all of the above. Which is why Pakistan has accepted responsibility and beginning to address the question of clearing up terrorist infrastructure inside Pakistan.

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Re: ‘ JI will organise jihadis’

Wasn't JI declared a terrorist organization already? Why is this guy being allowed to make such public statements?

And Champ, why are you making statements in support of a terrorist group suhc as JI?

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Quite Joking Kid , Who else will Give yo guys Proof , Tell me , DO you expect us to Believe that one day Backstabbing Sneaky indian gov will come out & say , Yes Raw was Involved in all the incidents in Pakistan , or USA will will say Yes CIA had relations with Taliban in Pakistan , I dont know what dream world you love in but it has no relation with Reality .

Just wake up your eyes & come out of your Dream world , or you can remain asleep for all we care , i have said it again i will say it again, that by closing your own eyes does not mean that the world has gone blind ,

and one other thing , please put some logic behind your post instead of just blabbering .

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This is yet another discussion where falsehoods are being propagated in the name of religion. Or perhaps this is based on 5th grade Mutalia Pakistan book that typically mutilates the real history.

Just remember the BASIC facts.

100% of Islamic scholars (of national stature) were AGAINST the formation of Pakistan and all of these Islamic scholars considered Jinnah as Kafir (or at least a Muslim of the lowest level of belief).

So the fact is that

Either

1 --------all those Islamic scholars were WRONG

Or

2 ------ Pakistan was never meant to be a theocratic Islamists' state.

1 is not true. Because all the big names scholars like Madoodi cannot be wrong. They had done their research and homework to figure out their ANTI-Pakistan position.

Thus #2 must be true.

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I do not think such uneducated statements and biased approach could give some positive contribution to the prevailing situations in Pakistan.
If JI workers are supporting Taliban , their activities in Waziristan , Swat and other Trible areas , it will do mean , they are responsible for attackes on GHQ, Murder of Bragdires etc, then what our Pak Army is waiting for?, whey are they are not arresting them and bringing them to courts ?
What I know about JI is , they are the Only Democratic Islamic Party in Pakistan and the only Cridit In pakistan Goes to JI who has Most Educated Workers among the Political Parties in Pakistan.
Democratic in Sense
See, pathan was their Ameer , who after his resignation was replaced by Munawar Hassan a Muhajir from Karachi.
and see the other So-called Mainstream Political Parties in Pakistan what are they Doing?
You can better under stand what is today's PML(N) Prime Agenda, to Lift the ban of third time becoming as prime minister.
and the other Party PPP, who was nominated their Chairman, do democratic people do like that , how many senior members were ignored , bypassed?

The Most Educted Vote Only JI had in Pakistan in Last election they participated in, in Karachi they were winning seats from Defence, PECHS, Gulshan-e-Iqbal
In Islam abad, they were winning, in Peshawar City JI condidate was winning , in Lahore City JI condidate was winning plus in Rawalpindi JI condidate was winning.
and the Number of Doctors , Engineers , Scientists, other Professionals associated with them may be not actively(as that may not be possible for them).

JI is reality, the only party in pakistan who did not see uptill its creation no disintigration.
If they are dangereous for Pakistan, why they will opening Hundreds of Schools , Colleges in Pakistan?
See the Hira Network of Schools in NWFP , with Thounsands brilliant students , in Punjab AlGhazali Network of Schools , in Karachi **** Public Shools and many other I might quote them.
I do hate Islamic Extremism, but JI is the only solution to Islamic Extremism.

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JI has been "married" to the Islamism BEFORE Pakistan came into being.
JI has been "married" to the Islamism AFTER Pakistan came into being.

All the JI bigwigs were with Indian Hindu Congress party and they all opposed Jinnah and ML.

So this is expected from the dimwit leaders of JI to take actions that contradict Pakistan's interests as a country.

In fact it is safe to say that JI never fully accepted the idea of Pakistan.

And now they are trying to do their level best to destroy this beautiful country by turning into yet another Islamic Emirate of Awgahnistan, Somalia, or Yemen.

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From the words/pharases and way of saying I can understand what your approach is ?

But, this hater we need be in your and your like people mind , should not spread.

These are days we are in need of National Harmony while and your Co-workers are doing your job of spreading More and More hater.

But, listen
Pakistan and Pakistanis are awaken now.

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So you agree that Mawdoodi and JI were AGAINST Pakistan and OPPOSED Jinnah at every occasion.

Correct?

With that history JI cannot change and thus it is still doing the Hindu's work of destroying and damaging Pakistan.

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So what proof have been "published" in India about other countries' involvement? Lets see....

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We are not talking about some Indian party here.... if you don't know facts then don't assume or pull stuff from behind.

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Oh stop being so dense! how soon you forget. Most recent was Kasab - you probably saw him on live tv. Same guy who your government first said not a Pakistani and then had to admit when slammed with tonnes of proof and contradictions.

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You know when you ape others for ‘clever’ phrasing, you should at least understand it before reusing it! the ass is followed by U in that, which is appropriate but then you won’t get that yourself :smack:

So do you have any thing to say on the topic and the question? Why are JI guys still allowed to make public speeched and appearances?

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The poor fella can't help it, spare him the agony. his comprehension had been compromised due to a freak accident.

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Is that what you call “proof”? He was the criminal, not the proof.

I will leave it to your genius-self, may be you can investigate it further and understand it.

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I know, but what I don’t understand is if he has no clue on a topic why does he act like an expert :hehe: