‘ JI will organise jihadis’

[niden]

I have told many times and telling you again, Taliban has strong support from these guys. Unless this support is removed, Taliban will strike again and again, till they take over Pakistan. The retards here who think that these bombings are done by India, RAw nonsense should read the writings on wall.

DAWN.COM | National | ? JI will organise jihadis?

**DERA GHAZI KHAN, Nov 15: Praising the Taliban regime in Afghanistan as the blessed one, Jamaat-i-Islami amir Munawar Hasan said on Sunday his party would mobilise people for jihad and organise jihadi elements to check America’s ‘increasing’ influence on Pakistan. **

**At a “Go America Go Convention”, the JI chief said the Taliban brought peace to Afghanistan and confounded the US. He said army chief Ashfaq Parvez Kayani stated that he would take the war against terrorism to its logical end, but did not tell that terrorism activities increased or decreased in Pakistan after it joined this war. He said involvement of the army in the war incited terrorism instead of eliminating it. **

**Mr Hasan said the army would hold talks with the Taliban only if America allowed it to do so. He said there were many elements in the country who were ready to mediate between extremists and the army. **

[hanibal]

Re: ‘ JI will organise jihadis’

How many time JI have won considerable seats in Pakistan ? i guess it was only under Mush Regime ( which BTW was one of the favorites among PPP leadership)

Since Dr. Tufail's departure, JI was suffering from Qazi and his stupid decisions and now this Munwar Hasan has decided to go a step further and make a complete fool out of it.. the reason seems to be that he is looking forward to be part of newspaper every day....

[champ]

Re: ‘ JI will organise jihadis’

Those are also Retarded who thinks that RAW, CIA etc are not behind this , it is not that we don't have proof of their involvement but that our Gov have no Gutts of Presenting them , due to an unknown (USA) Reason.

it is not possible taht all this commotion is caused by a single Element that is Mullahs , this all commotion is caused by different elements including , WAR, TTP, Mossad, CIA , Mullahs etc.

[Jalaluddin]

Those are also Retarded who thinks that RAW, CIA etc are not behind this , it is not that we don't have proof of their involvement but that our Gov have no Gutts of Presenting them , due to an unknown (USA) Reason.

it is not possible taht all this commotion is caused by a single Element that is Mullahs , this all commotion is caused by different elements including , WAR, TTP, Mossad, CIA , Mullahs etc.

Come on! you guys keep talking about RAw involvement and keep threatening you have proof BUT NEVER PUBLISH THE PROOF!!!

Why is it so difficult to admit the violence inside Pakistan is simply the result of decades of LeT type strategy gone very sour?

Do you really believe the Pak army will go to the extent of bombing areas within Pakistan at huge collateral damage just to protect RAW and CIA? That maks no sense.

[champ]

@Jalaluddin

Come on! you guys keep talking about RAw involvement and keep threatening you have proof BUT NEVER PUBLISH THE PROOF!!!

Why is it so difficult to admit the violence inside Pakistan is simply the result of decades of LeT type strategy gone very sour?

Do you really believe the Pak army will go to the extent of bombing areas within Pakistan at huge collateral damage just to protect RAW and CIA? That maks no sense.

I am afraid my Friend what you are saying is making no sense at all, RAW is involved & we had proofs we even showed that sneaky backstabbing indian gov , but it seems that a Thief will never agree that he committed the crime .

Read it this might Refresh your short memory.
Proof of India?s involvement in militancy found

[Captain1]

Come on! you guys keep talking about RAw involvement and keep threatening you have proof BUT NEVER PUBLISH THE PROOF!!!

Why is it so difficult to admit the violence inside Pakistan is simply the result of decades of LeT type strategy gone very sour?

Do you really believe the Pak army will go to the extent of bombing areas within Pakistan at huge collateral damage just to protect RAW and CIA? That maks no sense.

Does India "publish" Pakistan's involvement or does it keep secret to itself or at times share with the bosses (US/UK)?

[kakaballi]

Re: ‘ JI will organise jihadis’

The same statement reported by another newspaper:

JI chief asks govt to negotiate with Taliban

DERA GHAZI KHAN: Jamaat-e-Islami Ameer Syed Munawwar Hassan has said the government should hold a dialogue with the Pakistani Taliban.
*
Addressing a ‘Go America Go’ convention on the Railway Road here on Sunday, Munawwar claimed that extremism would continue to rise in the country till the time US and Nato forces were present in the area. He alleged the US wanted to eliminate Pakistan after the 9/11 attacks…*

I wonder if JI will own the statement in Dawn or The News. Considering how the speech was reported in Urdu newspapers, I think Dawn resorted to yellow journalism and If not, JI should make a statement against such serious misinterpretation.

[Captain1]

@kakaballi

The same statement reported by another newspaper:

JI chief asks govt to negotiate with Taliban

DERA GHAZI KHAN: Jamaat-e-Islami Ameer Syed Munawwar Hassan has said the government should hold a dialogue with the Pakistani Taliban.

Yes, the govt must negotiate with Taliban so that they ease the pain of dying, may be instead of 2 weekly bombings they can cut down a bit? Is that what Munawwar is suggesting? Jack…

[firenze]

@champ

Those are also Retarded who thinks that RAW, CIA etc are not behind this , it is not that we don’t have proof of their involvement but that our Gov have no Gutts of Presenting them , due to an unknown (USA) Reason.

it is not possible taht all this commotion is caused by a single Element that is Mullahs , this all commotion is caused by different elements including , WAR, TTP, Mossad, CIA , Mullahs etc.

it’s time you come out from state of denial ..

@champ

I am afraid my Friend what you are saying is making no sense at all, RAW is involved & we had proofs we even showed that sneaky backstabbing indian gov , but it seems that a Thief will never agree that he committed the crime .

Read it this might Refresh your short memory.
Proof of India?s involvement in militancy found

Raw, CIA & Mossad is inolved,.. and still half of our so-called budget came from America/Europe .. what a contradiction. Let me tell you whats the problem in one line: Pakistan as a nation have to leave behind so-called “fortress of islam” status and rest will be fine.

[firenze]

@kakaballi

The same statement reported by another newspaper:

JI chief asks govt to negotiate with Taliban

DERA GHAZI KHAN: Jamaat-e-Islami Ameer Syed Munawwar Hassan has said the government should hold a dialogue with the Pakistani Taliban.
*
Addressing a ‘Go America Go’ convention on the Railway Road here on Sunday, Munawwar claimed that extremism would continue to rise in the country till the time US and Nato forces were present in the area. He alleged the US wanted to eliminate Pakistan after the 9/11 attacks…*

I wonder if JI will own the statement in Dawn or The News. Considering how the speech was reported in Urdu newspapers, I think Dawn resorted to yellow journalism and If not, JI should make a statement against such serious misinterpretation.

Which is more respected newspaper ? Dawn or the news ? ..

anyway.. everyone knows the Munawar Hassan thinking, this out-dated mullah trying to find a place for his freakup party in national politics, but God willing JI support will continue to derail to 0.

Pakistan future is very progressive, just like Kamal Ata Truk envisioned 70 years ago, … that’s our future, InshALLAH !

Death to Taliban and their supporters,.. period !

[champ]

it's time you come out from state of denial ..

I am Afraid i am already out of it , you need to look at the reality , By just closing your eye does not mean that the world has gone blind , OK

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Raw, CIA & Mossad is inolved,.. and still half of our so-called budget came from America/Europe .. what a contradiction. Let me tell you whats the problem in one line: Pakistan as a nation have to leave behind so-called "fortress of islam" status and rest will be fine.
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*Well Tell me 1 thing Why Pakistan was Created , Y did we gave so many sacrifices , What is teh Two Nation Theory , What was the Dream of Iqbal , what was the motto of Muslim League when Creating Pakistan , * If you don't know the answers then i am afraid you are not Eligible to call your self a Pakistani so you have no business to tell us what is Right for us & what is wrong , & if you Know the Answers i just want to laugh at what you stated above. bcoz certainly you didn't thought when you were writing that .

[firenze]

I am Afraid i am already out of it , you need to look at the reality , By just closing your eye does not mean that the world has gone blind , OK

Oh i am looking, and i am seeing only blood everywhere,. .its coz of our f*up policies of last 30 years - their is no conspiracy - period !

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Well Tell me 1 thing Why Pakistan was Created , Y did we gave so many sacrifices , What is teh Two Nation Theory , What was the Dream of Iqbal , what was the motto of Muslim League when Creating Pakistan , * If you don't know the answers then i am afraid you are not **Eligible to call your self a Pakistani so you have no business to tell us what is Right for us & what is wrong* , & if you Know the Answers i just want to laugh at what you stated above. bcoz certainly you didn't thought when you were writing that .
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Two nation theory = was drowned in the bay of Bengal 1971, and by GOD Begali's still hate Pakistan as much as they do at that time.

Enough of the propaganda by the establishment, if Pakistan as a country has to exist, then we must speak truth, otherwise Shah Wali Ullah and his translator Zahid Hamid are not going to save us.

Iqbal dream was for Pakistan not for Talibinstan - Our joint "kartoot" as nation is given us these days, ... and jointly everyone will pay the price. The war will not contain in NWFP, .... .i will warn again.

Every single Pakistani will pay the price with blood then this monster will be gone.. every single Pakistani. Either they are in Peshawar or in Lahore or Karachi or In Quetta .. anywhere everyone ..

[niden]

firenze,

Right on target. I couldn’t have said better.:k:

[firenze]

Champ bhai you are quite confused person. According to your above statement, you want Shariah Laws to be implemented. Taliban also wants the same. ke Pakistan Islam ka qila banay. So tell me why Pak army is having war with the Taliban? Do you have any clue?

don't worry about champ, he is bit confused, he needs a glass of wine, rest will be taken care by Pinot Noir !

[champ]

Champ bhai you are quite confused person. According to your above statement, you want Shariah Laws to be implemented. Taliban also wants the same. ke Pakistan Islam ka qila banay. So tell me why Pak army is having war with the Taliban? Do you have any clue?

Well brother, i am not a Confused person i know the way i am heading to , I don't want Pakistan to be Turned into another Turkey or Lebanon, who lost their pure basis of Creation as an Islamic countries , I just want Pakistan to remain a country that can follow the Principles it was created on.

On The Other Hand Taliban has no connection to Islam they are just Terrorists who use the Name of Islam for their own wrong purposes, so i detest them more then anything in this world , I just want them to be destroyed at any cost.

If we just follow the west & adopt to their culture , then Y did we worked so hard to achieve this Land we call Pakistan ??

[niden]

@Champ

I don't want Pakistan to be Turned into another Turkey or Lebanon, who lost their pure basis of Creation as an Islamic countries , I just want Pakistan to remain a country that can follow the Principles it was created on.

Exactly what princples do you think that Pakistan was created for? I don't want your personal openion, what you say particularly on the format of government by the founder. Please provide the link or proof to substentiate your response.

[champ]

Oh i am looking, and i am seeing only blood everywhere,. .its coz of our f*up policies of last 30 years - their is no conspiracy - period !

So you want us to give up the reason we created this country for , Yeh Right , Dream on .

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Two nation theory = was drowned in the bay of Bengal 1971, and by GOD Begali's still hate Pakistan as much as they do at that time.
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And please Tell me the Connection of two nation theory & the Incident of Bengal , or you might have studied the wrong history .

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Enough of the propaganda by the establishment, if Pakistan as a country has to exist, then we must speak truth, otherwise Shah Wali Ullah and his translator Zahid Hamid are not going to save us.
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And what Exactly is that truth , Would you Enlighten us ! ??

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Iqbal dream was for Pakistan not for Talibinstan - Our joint "kartoot" as nation is given us these days, ... and jointly everyone will pay the price. The war will not contain in NWFP, .... .i will warn again
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Yeh Right i can see how messed up History you have studies , We the people make the nation , no some Alines from another planet do, Each & every Pakistani is Responsible for teh condition we are in right now , that is totally different issue & i don't wan to go into that debate , bcoz that will change the Topic , But shortly said , YOU, ME & every Pakistani who just wants to Run away from problems instead of solving them are the ones responsible .

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Every single Pakistani will pay the price with blood then this monster will be gone.. every single Pakistani. Either they are in Peshawar or in Lahore or Karachi or In Quetta .. anywhere everyone ..
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I Guess you are not in Either one of these mentioned cities , so Y crying , we are living here & are Happy in the condition we are in , We Know that we can Defeat this monster & Sacrifice is not something new for us , we have done that is past , & we are doing it now & we will do it in future too if needed ,

When ever there is WAR there is always Blood & Sacrifice , the only condition to win that war is to face these consequence , not to run from them .

You need to Realized that , before you start criticizing others .

[champ]

Exactly what princples do you think that Pakistan was created for? I don't want your personal openion, what you say particularly on the format of government by the founder. Please provide the link or proof to substentiate your response.

Pakistan was Created .
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To Provide Muslims a Homeland , where they can practice their own Religion & can Live Freely according to their own Culture. **

And if you want me to Provide you a Link for this , then just go to a Kid of 5th Class he will explain you batter then this.

[niden]

@Champ

To Provide Muslims a Homeland , where they can practice their own Religion & can Live Freely according to their own Culture.

That is secularism like in India, which is exactly opposite to the motto of JI, which says that only Islamic government based on Shariah Law is the reason of creation of Pakistan because of Muslim majority.

[champ]

That is secularism like in India, which is exactly opposite to the motto of JI, which says that only Islamic government based on Shariah Law is the reason of creation of Pakistan because of Muslim majority.

And your Point is ???