I've my own religion....

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singh, rather than getting impressed with Matrix Movie’s logics ( as it might be a dream), i would request you to read the inflation theory of creation of universe which is currently the most popular theory (as it answers most but not all he questions about creation of universe) proposed by Dr Alun Guth. It states that the universe came out of nothing.

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I was very impressed with matrix movie. No doubt about that. Besides, even according to your famous theory of big bang states that the expansion started from something finite or infinitesimally small to very very big. Or from the point of singularity to something to what what is there right now. from where did that singularity come?..This universe is uncreated!. THere is only transformation or manifestation and no creation. This is my belief.

and This is what inflationary states: The Inflation Theory proposes a period of extremely rapid (exponential) expansion of the universe shortly after the Big Bang.

this inflationary theory just “propounds” some theory after big bang. Nothing else!.

You know what, there are many black holes in this universe. I also think that there are many big bangs happening in this universe. Besides, you know what is the beauty of time as a dimension?..It has got no starting and no ending point. It has been continuously ticking and ticking. This very space/universe has no starting point also. Every science has to come to this conclusion i feel

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Science generates more questions than answers, that is its beauty and flaw. I replied to your doubt of coming out of nothing and here is another question of time of course for which there is currently no plausible answer.

may be we have to come out of time for answer as trying to understand nature of time within its confines keeps us moving in a loop where we reach the very place we start. how excatly we do that i do not know, may be someone has some answer.

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wrong
my parents didn't even point me towards religion, there were a few different factors which led me to spending more time learning about islam

and a large number of muslims are misinformed about islam, it's usually this misinformation that leads people away from the religion
perhaps this was also the reason why you distanced yourself from islam

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This is not possible. Anything that is beyond time and space or out of influence of time must be inactive or dead!.

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I have heard the above too…But can you explain why some are born in Hindu households and other in Christian households? Then naturally they will follow what their households follow…at a tender age how do you expect a child to know which is the right path? Are you trying to tell us that if a non-muslim child say age 10 dies he will not qualify for heaven simply cos he was born muslim at birth but his parents/surroundings led him to be non-muslim. How do you explain that? Why did Allah not give us a level playing field? Why not make everyone Muslim and then see who leads their lives well…Or why not make everyone non-muslim and then whoever becomes Muslim and leaves a good life can qulaify for heaven. Surely He is not unfair.

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No, I am not saying that if a child at tender age of 10 dies he will end up in hell. I only said every single human being born is a Muslim at birth but its the parents or his/her own understanding leads to become non-Muslim.

Now when I say his/her own understanding that does not mean a 10 year child has his/her own understanding to make decisions…at least I don’t think so, do you? So if a 10 year old child born to Hindu or Christian parents will not end up in hell they will simply make it to paradise because of their innocence and not having the understanding of making a decision between right and wrong, truth or false.

When I came to know about this that “every human born is a Muslim at birth…” I had another question. What about those Hindu or Christian people who are so down to earth and always do good deeds like the first post of this thread posted by muali will end up in hell or paradise? I was told if that person some how came to know about Islam and still refused to accept the truth, the truth of Allah :swt: they will end up in hell. How ever if the same person for any reason did not get the message than on the day of judgment Allah :swt: will give them the chance to accept or deny Islam. As you said Surely He is not unfair, the all mighty Allah :swt:

And all those questions you have I cannot answer, I am not a scholar and I do not have enough knowledge to tell you why Allah :swt: did the way you are suggesting. I can say one thing and that is every one of us have a lot questions which are not answerable or not answered or maybe we did not spend enough time to find out the answers but Allah :swt: knows best he did not setup all this just to confuse us. Its all part of the test. I have understood one thing and that is I do not question Allah :swt: no matter what. I simply accepted what he has set forth for us. Its very easy to criticise but its hard to follow the rules but than thats the test and every single soul will find out. Allah :swt: the all mighty knows best.

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Teaser...Please I am not criticising Allah in the least. In fact I just wanted to create a reasonable doubt in even one person's mind that maybe...just maybe people are mis-interpreting what Allah's intentions for us are. And you have rightly pointed outwe are not able to answer a lot of questions...But then do we have the right to judge anyone if we cannot know the answers. One thing I do know is that Allah has created us with intelligence and our conscience. Use these wisely. We all have the same colour blood and we will all feel pain if we are cut with a knife...so then why discriminate. Perhaps Muali will go to Heaven or be rewarded (whatever his belief system is) we cannot judge him. Look after your own lives and those near and dear to you.

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Then would u mind telling how did u come to know that u were born in a muslim family or u were muslim.
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have u realized that .....thats the most sensitive and arrogant statement i've ever heard.
* What makes u think that u dont belong to same group either.Since ur claiming to be an expert.*

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U said that people kill in the name of religion and its needed some times......
My reply was there is NEVER a NEED to kill someone.
Now i dont understand where u going with killing in the name of religion to protecting ur family.....
i just dont understand that......plz explain it to me.... wat r u trying to say....???

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*SubhanAllah atleast brothers and sister have enough knowledge on here to debate. Alhmadulillah. *

*He doesn't believe in religion. Then really why bother telling him and literally forcing Islam on him? I'm sure by now he knows enough. *

*Like Shaykh Yasir Qadhi said "If you are trying to convience an atheist about Islam, then DO NOT DO SO" you know why he said that? *

*Because If one sane person comes upto you and be like "there is no sun outside" but you know and you believe and you can see that today is BRIGHT sunny day outside. Then would you really believe that idiot? *

*Its like a person who doesn't believe in Allah swt saying....."There is no GOD" Do not waste time on people who don't make sense. *

*Just a reminder, but If a person is gaining summat outta it then its a totally different situation. *

*take care, *

Ma'salaama.

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Thanks for the lecture.....
U mentioned some sheikh sahab saying something....well i know why he said that...cuz he himself didnt know the answer.

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so what do u believe in??

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*When someone speaks the truth it automatically becomes lecture, innit? When someone gossips its the headline of newspaper. *

Duniya duniyah duniyah...

*Have mercy : ) khayr "your welcome" for the comment. *

Asalamualaykum

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I believe in nuthing ...... but watever i mentioned in my 1st post.

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  • huh..Truth------------------> wat kinda truth ur talking about.... How come ur so sure that watever u know is the ultimate truth......*
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*LOL he himself doesn't know the answer? wallahi rabil adheeem. If only you knew who he is. You won't be going around debating on religion. *

*Khayr. May Allah give you Hidayah Ameen. *

*Guidance only comes from Allah, when one is willing to try. *

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u think if i follow some sheikh that'll put me to a right track.......plzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I dont have to listen to any sheikh weikh....
And by the way my previous comment was meant to be sarcastic...

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*Mayn you are hilarious. Am I telling you to follow some Shaykh? Ya'anee Its not like that at all. To you is your *atheism and to me is my religion. Allah guides whom he wills. May he guide you to the right path Ameen Before its too late for you to save yourself from the punishement of grave, Punishment of day of judgement, and the Punishment of Naar = hell fire. **

Only Allah knows the best.

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well just a query
If i was to ask u to follow atheism,would i be presenting my atheism by scaring u with the details of punishments of by telling u good stuff about watever i follow... hmmmmm