Israel Attacks Gaza With Airstrikes

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ok... got it....i respect your viewpoint....i have given mine...and sorry if i was rude in anyway...i feel passionate about my position but no intention to hurt anyway....

obviously all of us want the best for poor Palestinians...

thx for a civilized discussion. god nite

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No worries mate, we all have our views,I apologise as well as if I came off nt so polite. And all of us like a good debate, I guess it took us time to understand what each of us was saying but no matter. Stick around when you can :k:

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Sorry, didn't spot those. I have merged all those posts.

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And what if hamas didnt attack but retaliated to the killing of their commander? Did that ever occur to you?

And explain to me this; the commander they murdered was responsible for enforcing a peace treaty with Israel for the past few years, and he had the blueprint for a peace treaty for the next 5 years. What do you make of Israel targeting him in particular?

What do you make of the incursions into gaza by the idf last week; who came and shot dead two boys playing football and their rescuers? This btw was just before the rockets!

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Breakdown of the timeline from a non-profit group

Two New Resources: Timeline of Israeli escalation in Gaza and Israel’s history of breaking ceasefires

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i agree hamas and hizbullah cannot defend palestine in reality they have no fighter planes or any real army.

But they have no choice but to try and defend themselves because the so called muslim countries are cowards and not helping their brothers.

You think israel can be trusted on any agreement you dreaming buddy they couldn't keep to single agreement even if it slap them in the face every time.

the solution is a state v state i.e an islamic state which would send its forces to finish the israeli zionist cancer for good this is how our prophet(saw) and all the islamic leaders in history deal with such problem.

We don't have this islamic state today so first step is to work for this unity and to get this state so we have protection for our people like in this situation.

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Israel has laid seige to Gaza, and then starts killing its leaders, and then they portray Palestinians as the aggressors.

Firecrackers that mostly land in the desert are being portrayed as "rockets".

Where is Mercenary when you need him? I want to hear his spin on this.

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So you think Islam is about violence? I would be much happier if the US stopped protecting Israel, the Palestinians got a state of their own, and the world put pressure on both sides to put their grievances aside. What do you think Allah would like more, for Muslims to be vengeful or for Muslims to be the better people and forgive their enemies?

Well Israeli citizens have died too, you can't deny that. I do agree that the fault for this incident lies with Israel. They need to be reigned in, but keep in mind that not every single Israeli wants to kill Palestinians. There are many groups within Israel, which includes soldiers, that speak out against the occupation. There are also Jews in the US that speak out against Israel's actions. We need strength, not to wipe Israel off the map, but to force the right wingers in their country to back down.

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I still get surprised when Obama administration or spokesperson says 'Israel has the right to bombard and to defend itself'

Just incredibly cruel.

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Right or wrong are out of question here ..... Do any of u really think that Israel would Attack Palestinians or any other PPL/Country if They/It had the Firepower to respond ???? A Simple NO.

Despite being wealthy a few Muslim Countries have failed to get on par in regard to Science and Technology with western World ..... in the 7th Century Muslims were calling the shots ..... now that we lost our way they are calling the shots

Jiss ki laathi .... uski bhains

And this happening all over the World

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The way American media presents the information on this matter is purely frustrating, it's always so unfair and always so pro-Israel it gets especially ridiculous when the Israelis are being so obviously cruel, I can't even imagine how hard hearted you have to be to accept Israel's actions and support what they do, but whenever it comes to Israel I feel like the bias is so strong/prejudice that the UN loses its grasp of common sense/fairness (if it even has any to rely on), and as far as I can remember the weaker party has always been Palestine but their suffering is always minimized to a shrug. It's just so sad, Israel gets a slight prick of a thorn and needs to retialiate by bombing innocent children and women to show they should be feared, such strong bullies they are.

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exactly the premiss based on which I proposed my solution in this thread...morality is not given..it is earned rather secured by power

and if you have nothing in your hands and no one will ever help you, isn't this the time for hamas and arab world to look introspectively to see what else can be done..does hamas charter need to say " it’s goal is ‘destruction’ of Israel"...

please go destroy Israel if you have power..but don't attack with your firecrackers and then let your own people and kids get killed!

lets continue with the cycle of violence...keep crying for morality and help... no one will ever come to help you! Israel has delivered the message...even with all the changes in the arab world, we can hit wherever we want, whenever we want and whichever way we want and no one can stop us...

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Arab and Turkish world: here is the solution...

OPTION1:
assemble full-fledge mobile army units to defend Palestine and go for full war when Israel commits any wrongdoings...

chnaces of that happening ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ... but if it can happen, i am all for option 1

OPTION 2

STOP BEGGING USA AND ISRAEL FOR MORALITY AND CONDEMNATION... it will change nothing...DO SOMETHING PRACTICAL THAT YOU CAN DO WITHOUT NEEDING USA AND ISRAEL

BRING HAMAS, HAZB AND HAMAS on table and tell them no more half-baked and wishy-washy militarily support for you guys...

completely dismantle hamas, hazb ullah and fatah.... stop supporting them militarily

They can not defend their people anyway with those firecrackers that you give them

Instead, Put 20-50B dollar fund... develop a Arab-Turkish-Iran working organization to coordinate the development and implementation of Palestine ... for some heavy infrastructure building, educating people...create jobs

New slogan will be "GAZA NEW DUBAI by 2016"....
Remember how western nations developed Europe after WWII....remember how EU came into being to help poor European nations?

POTENTIAL RISKS AND MITIGANTS

Israeli right wingers will try to disrupt process by committing wrongdoings and barbaric attacks to gain political advantages but don't retaliate with firecrackers...just preach PEACE PEACE PEACE

International pressure will be on Israel...they will eventually need to finish the blockade when there will be no Hamas, no hazb ullah and no rocket attacks

Israeli citizens want to live in peace....dont underestimate their desire to live peacefully..it is in human nature when you have kids and family...they will put pressure on their government when there will be no rockets from gaza

remember how Japaneses rebuilt themselves with their heads down to the US barbarism..Japaneses could have started a gorilla war, movement of disobedience and what not but they focused on rebuilding

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And for god sake, look into your mistakes....Israel has Gaza under seize – yes sure.. but look at any map . Egypt shares border with Gaza too . Why has Egypt kept it sealed ? Why isn’t Egypt letting free movement of goods and people ? Let Egypt open the border...time has come

I dont see any other practical solution for Palestinian people..arab and Turkish governments can develop and implement this plan..Europeans, Russia/China will support them

and the biggest threat to this plan is not israel or USA.....it will be Iran, then syria and then arab countries in the same order because of their petty political objectives....but lets hope their love for poor Palestinian people is real!

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just read the evening standard about obama who "backed israel's right to defend itself against the rocket fire but warned of risks israelis will be taking should they mount a ground invasion"

biggest joke ever. tetra K. kjghjdfgkskdhfksfb GAH.

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International pressure will be on Israel
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What you don't get is no matter how much pressure there is on Israel the US will ALWAYS support them and that is what matters to them!

There has been international pressure on Israel all this time, everyone has time and time again signed resolutions condemning them, yet one country keeps vetoing them. America.

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No pressure will affect Israel till they change everything themselves.** They are the country with most violations of International law, a rogue state. That is a FACT.**

Till they start behaving within that legal framework NO amount of pressure will do ANYTHING. As has ALWAYS been the case.

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pssssstt mama shak i have to tell you something i have to tell you something listen okies!!

whispers i need to pee :blush:

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One day I hope to wake up and see you stop doing this :smack: