High street brands OBVIOUSLY don't copy stitch for stitch but they're inspired just as a lot of guppies are inspired by outfits posted that have been made by designers! Yes some people may want the exact SAME DESIGN but they don't have the money for them..SO WHAT? BOO FRICKING HOO! Everyone wants to look good..but why should the rice so called 'elite' people get to wear all the nice clothes?
@alinna you wear high street clothes..they've been inspired by catwalks/designers..which you can BLATANTLY see if you flick through a magazine! It's not a crime!
i think its PERFECTLY acceptable for people to do what they want with the way they dress! what i think is UNACCEPTABLE is for people to start complaining about copying designers. Everyone gets inspiration from somewhere..be it hair/makeup/clothes!
Pakistanis designers by now are probably all aware of the so called online industry thats making big money out of blatnetly copying their latest, straight out of runway pieces, stitch by stitch, and thats unethical. So technically, it should be the designers who need to urge the Pakistani government and lawmakers to look into this. Our government and the courts had their moment of 'dealing' with the internet and facebook over blasphemous material, so they're not totally ignorant of this whole concept. But In the meantime, let people just take full advatage and for once apprecaite the lawlessness of the country. ::D
If I'm making* money *out of blatantly copying someone's designs, how is it not unethical? In UK, how long will I survive as an established and well known online designer if I'm selling blantant copies of latest Versace gowns? The chances my business will be exposed in the glossy media and consequently, the word will reach Donatella Versace and I as a proud owner of that copying business will be sued for millions. Pakistan doesn't have this culture and thats the ultimate answer.
huh 'online' industry? it sounds like you have never been to pak, because every karigar sitting in the market has copies of designer outfits hanging there. as soon as they come in the magazines/newspapers, they begin churning out copies.
the 'online' industry imo is still pretty small and kinda late in the game! and to be honest, the smaller designers offering their originals seem to be doing better business.
You're right, maybe I haven't seen enough of local darzi shops in Pakistan and but I'm familar with online designers. My very very Pakistani friends' fb pages are loaded, seriously loaded with them.
I’ll write it again..There’s a HUGE diff btw taking an inspiration from a design and making an exact copy. So please don’t misuse it. The girls in the photos have BLATANTLY copied Elan’s designs so please don’t deviate from the topic. You can’t possibly compare the liberty adda system with the high street brands. I’ve already explained that its not possible on an International level as it is illegal to sell counterfeit goods. Please refer to my earlier post if you still don’t understand what i mean.
You can’t be serious..are you? Paheli00](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/members/paheli00.html) the purpose of advertising is to encourage the viewer to buy the product, not copy it. It’s a very general fact. i’m sorry if you weren’t aware of it. They’re showcasing their stuff because they want people to know what they’re offering and how diff it is from the ordinary stuff. It’s probably people like you who take advantage of big bold advertised designs. In case you don’t know, let me tell you that many designers such as Umar Sayyad and Sana Safinaz didnt advertise their label for a very long time only because of the fear of their designs being replicated. Even now, if you notice the Sana Safinaz ads, you’d see that the embellishment on an outfit is intentionally made blur..
From what I understood from your post, you’d take every opportunity to do something wrong esp when its out in the open..that’s just sad! and please dont drown in the example i gave. what i meant was that any normal person would get annoyed if some free rider gets away with similar result based on that person’s efforts. if you were wise in school then good for you..probably all the designers aren’t. (sarcasm)
i am guilty of copying some pakistani dresses myself but I have always put my own styles to change it around. i don't see anything wrong with it because i can't afford designer dresses and sarees most of the time. Most brides on low budget do the same thing. If I like a designer dress and can't afford does that mean I shouldn't wear it? I don't see any laws against this in pakistan or am i unaware of it?
For me I have done it a couple of times, but only because I really liked the designs and also I didn't have enough time to go to Pakistan and create my own outfit. At least this way I knew that I would be getting something I liked, instead of leaving it to my SIL to make something of her choice and having the risk of not liking it. It really wasn't about getting something "designer". I don't even know the designers' names! More to do with convenience. Otherwise if I had the time and resources, I would love to be able to go about designing my own outfits.
I don't understand why Pakistani designers bother showcasing their clothes on runway or allow cameras in their shows. Really, their designs are openly getting copied yet the aam awaam has no idea who the hell these designers are but they like their clothes enough for copying, so what's point? I have no hard feelings for people who copies designer stuff but I really do feel that the Pakistani designers are pretty dumb and lazy when it comes to protecting their own goods.
So if I take inspiration from a suit and change one bead colour then it isn't an exact copy therefore its fine LOL. I doubt anyone's making EXACT copies unless they have the designers clothes in their hand. It's kind of hard to get exact from pictures.
I don't understand why Pakistani designers bother showcasing their clothes on runway or allow camera in their shows. Really, their designs are opnely getting copied yet the aam awaam has no idea who the hell these deisgners are but they like their clothes enough for copying, so what's point? I have no hard feelings for people who copies designer stuff but I really do feel that the Pakistani designers are pretty dumb and lazy when it comes to protecting their own goods.
If they didn't showcase their designs what would be the point? How would they even get any attention?
If they didn't showcase their designs what would be the point? How would they even get any attention?
What good is in attention that brings them no money or due recognition to their brand? Holding shows without the cameras would still get them the usual house full of interested customers, and after they can save the collection in print (something like Dior Haute Couture books) only to be found in their boutiques for their potential customers instead of having pictures misused on wishy washy blogs and fb pages. There are many ways for them to advertise their brand without necessarily releasing the images of the entire collection. For example, more than half of Tom Ford's collection is already sold out by the time mainstream media even catches the glimpse of his clothes. He's the perfect example for Pakistanis designers to follow if they are concerned about preserving exclusivity and aesthetics of their brand. These designers are luxury markets for goodness sake, who says every ordinary indivdual has the 'right' to wear Channel?
Actually the reason why PAKISTANI designers OUTSIDE of pakistan get a lot attention is through blogs/fb pages/wesbites like GS! Im pretty sure that customers for designers are also based abroad? Maybe? I'm not sure of statistics and if this is accurate but thats what i think. i mean i wouldn't have a clue about any of these designers if it wasn't for blogs/fb/GS. and also i wouldn't compare Tom Ford to designers in pakistan.
I don't understand why Pakistani designers bother showcasing their clothes on runway or allow cameras in their shows. Really, their designs are openly getting copied yet the aam awaam has no idea who the hell these designers are but they like their clothes enough for copying, so what's point? I have no hard feelings for people who copies designer stuff but I really do feel that the Pakistani designers are pretty dumb and lazy when it comes to protecting their own goods.
As a blogger I really hope designers don't follow this advice! Going a little off-topic here designers get so much from the PR/Brand side of broadcasting fashion shows. I'm sure most designers are aware that their designs get copied, but by doing the fashion shows they're getting their name out to a global audience and I'm pretty sure the recognition, new clients and new business opportunities they get from this far outweighs the fact that people copy them.
the only time it becomes unethical is if you are blatantly copying someone else's designs and passing them off as your own for profit. that's it. copying for personal use is something that a designer cannot control. sure, you can get mad about it, but in a country like pakistan i'm not sure it would do anything other than raise your blood pressure and make you ill. there is no recourse in pakistan. the truth of the matter is that you, as a designer, have to be secure in your product and its pricing and know that for everyone out there who is making a cheap copy for personal use, there will always be 5 people who will be willing to pay you your asking price for the original and who will recognise its value and its worth. who wants a client who is going to nickel and dime you over every little detail and fuss about the price and lessening kaam to make it suit their budget etc etc? your product is what it is. stand by it and advertise it as you will for your clientele.
as to the argument that it doesn't happen with YSL, Chanel or any of the other top brands, that's because it can't. it is physically impossible because the supporting market of karigars, darzi's, fabric walla's etc just doesn't exist in the west, and if it does, it is also equally cost-prohibitive which is why those who can afford Chanel, buy it from Chanel; and those who cannot, wait for an H&M collaboration or a cheaper knock off at one of the "high street" stores. it really doesn't apply to pakistani designers or pakistani consumers.
i don't agree with the "poor designers, their advertising only leads to knock off's so they shouldn't advertise" argument that seems to be taking shape here. they're not poor designers. they have their market secured and they do very well within it. that 1% of the population is more than happy to shell out 5 lakh for a bunto kazmi bridal jora and they'll wear it very happily in their 1% crowd. leave them to it. for the rest of us, an imitation will have to do and more power to you brides who want to wear a bunto-inspired jora on your day, so long as you're not copying her designs for sale and personal profit, which most brides don't.
I personally think there is a difference between inspired outfits and copying someone else's work to the T ...what I think is even worse is copying someone else is work and making money off it...
the designers charge exorbintant amount of money for their creativity..they are the innovators of the fashion...they start the trend...
I personally think designers in Pakistan don't mind the lax rules around the copyrights because it brings THEIR designs out in mainstream...
Finally…i love you i dont understand this concept at all its exactly like sitting an exam, and someone is cheating off ur answers well said my friend…
i am against ALL copies, if your poor then why aspire to wear somthing you cant afford i dont go out buying Dior, Gucci etc clothes because frankly speaking i cant afford that **** (bags and shoes are a different story)…but i dont go trying to make copies of them!!!
HSY, SS, Karma etc…these people put ALOT of effort into their designs only to have them copied by some ugly ass “DARZI” im sick and tired of seeing them
i only buy desi originals if i can afford them (alhamdolillah) so i wont go looking around for an Umar Sayeed copy because id feel so guilty and a little cheap wearing a fake…instead i will opt for a designer who suits my budget and makes me look fab…
sorry just an opinion…i just cant live with the guilt!!
oh and dad says: Utne pair phehlao jitni chaadar… i think that makes sense!! haha
i dont understand this concept at all 
its exactly like sitting an exam, and someone is cheating off ur answers well said my friend…
