Re: Is homosexuality destroying our family structure?
lol since when did homosexuals become infertile? your forefathers may have been gay. lots of Pakistanis with families are gay.
But but..by that reasoning then we need to put a stop to all the masturbating men because think of all those people who could be born but are instead getting flushed away with the tissues! :D
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When I said Gay, I meant confirmed gay who never would want any physical contact with the opposite sex. Yes they may not be infertile but if the receiving partner is not of opposite sex, their fertility could do a jack.
Talking about jack, el topo, men who occasionally go for self pleasure do not make it their permanent sexual preference. If they do then its also as abnormal as being homo.
Re: Is homosexuality destroying our family structure?
if we lived in a country with complete sharia laws enforced, would the ones against homosexuals coming out of the closet participate in stoning or flogging a confirmed homosexual to death?
Re: Is homosexuality destroying our family structure?
Just one solo ejaculation is potentially losing millions!
I was just doing a funny. I’ll stop.
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lol..
those fanciful definitions of failed theories can only satisfy scientific dilettantism and can have a negative impact on homosexuality… **by the way, hamer’s “gay gene” study was published 18 years ago.
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bon appétit!
and i’m done with gay topics.
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Yup, and I believe I mentioned earlier that his study was subsequently disproved by another study. And so it goes on and on.
My intention was merely to point out that the concept of a gay gene is flawed, but the idea of genetics playing a part in it is a possibility.
Media reporting is unreliable, but there is some really interesting work going on in the genetics field, not speaking just specifically of homosexuality here, it’s enough to show me that our biological influences are far more complicated than we would assume. So, I wouldn’t rule anything out, but I wouldn’t claim certainty on it all either. People who do claim certainty, either way, interest me infinitely.
None of that should matter though, it should be enough to know that they are just as human as heterosexuals and as consenting adults should have the right to live their life in the manner of their choosing. If that involves marriage then so be it.
Dilettante? Ha, guilty, sort of. My adoptive father was a geneticist. He was one of the gazillions working on the genome project, I used to think he was a gardener working on a gnome project.
If anyone cares, my cheese sandwich was delicious.
Okay, so now I’m starting to bore myself too, and will shut up.
Re: Is homosexuality destroying our family structure?
genetic predisposition is the right term.. but i quite agree with you, they are as human as heterosexuals and should be treated with godlike kindness et cetera, et cetera.
off-topic/ did i mention that my great-great grandfather was Einstein?? no? it's ok.. nvm :-/
Re: Is homosexuality destroying our family structure?
well.. people pulling the "show me the gay gene" argument don't seem to realize the nuances of genetics - several decades have been spent by scientists with all kinds of motivations looking for genetic differences to identify races - something as concretely genetic as inheriting your parents' race/skin color/hair type - and we still don't have any reliable answers. does this mean race is caused by nurture, and not genetics?
Re: Is homosexuality destroying our family structure?
well.. people pulling the "show me the gay gene" argument don't seem to realize the nuances of genetics - several decades have been spent by scientists with all kinds of motivations looking for genetic differences to identify races - something as concretely genetic as inheriting your parents' race/skin color/hair type - and we still don't have any reliable answers. does this mean race is caused by nurture, and not genetics?
I think the point most are trying to make is that genes have a major influence on our predisposition but that does not mean we do not make conscious decisions to engage in our inclinations. A trait like aggression is linked to genetics, does that mean we stop prosecuting or helping people who suffer from aggression? Psychopaths have similar genetic predispositions. But some act on them, some lead a normal life. Should we just ignore the ones that act on their impulses that are determined by genetics or what not? At the end of the day, we're on a spectrum like I said. There's no 50/50 split between gay and straight. Inclinations change.
I might not be clear here but you get the general drift right? Just throwing down what the people talking about genetics are implying. I got no issues with my homosexual friends as long as they keep their business behind closed doors. Just like I do. I apply the same set of conduct rules to straight and homosexuals.
Re: Is homosexuality destroying our family structure?
When I said Gay, I meant confirmed gay who never would want any physical contact with the opposite sex. Yes they may not be infertile but if the receiving partner is not of opposite sex, their fertility could do a jack.
Talking about jack, el topo, men who occasionally go for self pleasure do not make it their permanent sexual preference. If they do then its also as abnormal as being homo.
Exactly.
The point there is if gay marriages were so good and NATURAL one should imagine and approve possibilty ALL people having gay marriages without ANY hesitation. Then what the result would be? Stagnant or even reversal of life cycle.
Hence, 'gay marriages' are unnatural and simply wrong.
In fact, the term gay marriage itself is oxymoronic.
Re: Is homosexuality destroying our family structure?
I don't believe that homosexuality is right but when it coems to adoption, a kid adopted by a gay family is better than a kid being left in an orphanage. End of.
Re: Is homosexuality destroying our family structure?
I don't believe that homosexuality is right but when it coems to adoption, a kid adopted by a gay family is better than a kid being left in an orphanage. End of.
This kind of argument looks good on the surface only ( and is made on purpose to look good).
It does not really mean anything, since some people would just simply look at the wrose case scenario and think of other option being legit or good. Sorry, this is very poor technique of argument.
It's not like for orphans there are no other better options. Those options would still be far better than one you proposed in haste and zeal of making a seemingly good argument.
Re: Is homosexuality destroying our family structure?
Being adopted is better than letting a kid rot in an orphanage, be it a gay or straight couple/single person.
There’s many things I don’t agree about homosexuals, but I think they shoudl be allowed to adopt. it’s not like they’re “taking” kids away from straight couples/singles who want to adopt.
Re: Is homosexuality destroying our family structure?
I do not think yo understood my point there.
Like I said, off course some would say what you said is correct. But 'two wrongs' do not make one right. 'Third right' would.
It's pretty easy for you to pontificate about right and wrong and dismiss someone else's comments - which you've done in virtually every thread you'd contributed to. But I notice you have consistently failed to bring any ideas or comments of value to the discussions. In case it's escaped your attention - your comments have no credibility.
Lesson to you - learn to engage in a dialogue and you may be heard - your monologues are getting tedious.
Re: Is homosexuality destroying our family structure?
This kind of argument looks good on the surface only ( and is made on purpose to look good).
It does not really mean anything, since some people would just simply look at the wrose case scenario and think of other option being legit or good. Sorry, this is very poor technique of argument.
Then why don't you add what you think is the best option instead of smugly dismissing others' opinions hwich you seem to love to do?
I think you just like to hear yourself "talk" more than anything else. Nothing you say makes sense and you argue just for the sake of arguing. You are neither witty nor intelligent.
Do me a favor and don't read or comment on my posts from now on because on the ladder of who's worth getting into a discussion with, you fall farther than the bottom rung. :)
Re: Is homosexuality destroying our family structure?
Then why don't you add what you think is the best option instead of smugly dismissing others' opinions hwich you seem to love to do?
I think you just like to hear yourself "talk" more than anything else. Nothing you say makes sense and you argue just for the sake of arguing. You are neither witty nor intelligent.
Do me a favor and don't read or comment on my posts from now on because on the ladder of who's worth getting into a discussion with, you fall farther than the bottom rung. :)
The best option is to keep looking for any interested relatives of the orphan, then if unsuccessful, look for straight couple who desire adopting. A good orphanage which really brings up an orphan in the society to become a useful member by collective efforts of dedicated and sincere people is another good option.
It is not like their would ever be a shortage of straight couples.
Instead of commenting on me counter me with better argument. :)
Re: Is homosexuality destroying our family structure?
If you bothered to read my initial post, i never said that was the only option.
Not only do you lack reading comprehension skills, you also lack common sense. If a child had interested relatives, he/she wouldn't be in an orphanage waiting to be adopted by families to begin with.
PS, my emotions are too precious to waste on a thing like you. :)
