Yes but the 2nd wife did not know and was obviousley conned!
that does not give him the right to abuse her in such a degrading way!
The father should think ke how has he raised his child?...to lie his way through life and use women?
he should question himself not the character of the 2nd unknowing wife who is now HIS daughter in law and the mother to be of his grandchild.
That is exactly why your friend needs to talk to him and let him know that in what circumstances she married his son. How do you know that son did not lie to his dad about how your friend actually trapped him and marry him against his wishes (or some other weird story)
They already had this convo in the beginning when they got married all hell broke loose and his family sat with her family
and talked about it and they said they want him to live with first wife and the guy said 'you all forced me into it' meaning the first marriage
and that he mentioned his intentions back before getting forcibly married to the 1st one that he wanted to marry my friend.
He also said there and then i dont want anything else to do with her and i did not call her over you ( his dad ) did without telling me even though i gave her taalaq on the phone infront of you, to which his dad kept reaching for his boot and saying 'chup kar' and after that a few times they came over banging the door down and hurling abuse a few times.
She really just needs to have a good think if she can trust him and if not she is going to be doubting him all the time
and its not a good start for her or her unborn child, i truthfully think she should leave him but then again i understand what why she is still giving him a chance.
I still dont understand how his first wife was brought over without his consent.. He would surely have to have signed papers and collect her etc, and meet with solicitors and in touch with immigration. Is he that much of a wally that he does what his dad tells him to blindly.. And how is the wife pregnant.. Unless its not his.. If theyre saying its his then it answers ur q.. Hes a liar and a cheater. I feel for both the women
Ok..he is a liar and so as guy's family. If he lets say would have married out of parents' pressure in Pakistan..the guy's family should have said something. Before ruining her life. Anyway!..to add to spice..he impregnated two women now. He'll be questioned for the injustice and lie. May Allah help everyone of them!.
MY question here is..how could ANYONE or ANYONE lie like this..this is such a big lie! and for what???.
dont know how this is any where else in the world but in UK pakistani families are still all about saving face and izaat. I understand that izaat is a very important thing but many parents care more about what others in the community will say then their own kids happiness. I'm not sticking up for him or justifying what he has done but i have heard of stories like this so many times. I even know of extremes where families lock the unwilling guy in the bedroom with the 'wife'. Many parents get there kids married over their knowing full well that there is a love interest here but choose to ignore that, when it comes to visa time many will call over the 'spouse' just to shut the family up and have a quiet life!
It all falls down to the backward thinking of the last generation....you have to marry my neice...what will your great grandfather say.......we cant show our face anywhere now cos you wont marry her!!
Kids love and respect their parents and will do anything to keep them happy but there are many pakistani parents here in the UK that take advantage of that.
the guy said 'you all forced me into it' meaning the first marriage
and that he mentioned his intentions back before getting forcibly married to the 1st one that he wanted to marry my friend.
I'm sorry but this guy seems to be a wimp. He agreed to ruin another woman's life because his parents "forced" him too. Did his parents also force him to get his 1st wife pregnant? What if they force him to divorce his second wife and come back to the first?
This guy needs to stand up for himself first. Your friend deserves better!
The guy married the second wife in UK, yes? Well, it is** illegal,** according to a simple check on wikipedia:
England and Wales Bigamy is a statutory offence in England and Wales. It is committed by a person who, being married to another person, goes through a ceremony capable of producing a valid marriage with a third person. The offence is created by section 57 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861:
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Whosoever, being married, shall marry any other person during the life of the former husband or wife, whether the second marriage shall have taken place in England or Ireland or elsewhere, shall be guilty of felony, and being convicted thereof shall be liable to be kept in penal servitude for any term not exceeding seven years … : Provided, that nothing in this section contained shall extend to any second marriage contracted elsewhere than in England and Ireland by any other than a subject of Her Majesty, or to any person marrying a second time whose husband or wife shall have been continually absent from such person for the space of seven years then last past, and shall not have been known by such person to be living within that time, or shall extend to any person who, at the time of such second marriage, shall have been divorced from the bond of the first marriage, or to any person whose former marriage shall have been declared void by the sentence of any court of competent jurisdiction.
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if they have only had nikah done then it is not illegal. when a couple only has a nikah done and do not register the marriage they are seen as a live in couple in the eyes of the law. There are men in this country that have 3 wives but only have nikah done...no one can do a single thing about it.
If he had tried to have to marriages registered that would be illegal.
Since both of them are his wives , he is not cheating on anybody. If this wife has heartache about him married to another woman and lying or any other moral issues with him, then she needs to do whatever she thinks is appropriate for her.
if they have only had nikah done then it is not illegal. when a couple only has a nikah done and do not register the marriage they are seen as a live in couple in the eyes of the law. There are men in this country that have 3 wives but only have nikah done...no one can do a single thing about it.
If he had tried to have to marriages registered that would be illegal.
copy and paste from wiki doesnt make you clever
It's not about me. It's about him and her and wife #1. I'm clever enough to know that much.:p
if they have only had nikah done then it is not illegal. when a couple only has a nikah done and do not register the marriage they are seen as a live in couple in the eyes of the law. There are men in this country that have 3 wives but only have nikah done...no one can do a single thing about it.
If he had tried to have to marriages registered that would be illegal.
copy and paste from wiki doesnt make you clever
Generally speaking, if a marriage is legally valid in the foreign country in which it took place, then it is valid under the law here. How otherwise did she get a visa for entry into the UK?
You are correct however if the nikah was done here and it is not registered.
if they have only had nikah done then it is not illegal. when a couple only has a nikah done and do not register the marriage they are seen as a live in couple in the eyes of the law. *There are men in this country that have 3 wives but only have nikah done...no one can do a single thing about it.
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If he had tried to have to marriages registered that would be illegal.