Iran's President says that Israel will soon be wiped out / misquoted (merged)

LuxuryItem · December 15, 2006, 4:46pm

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Jews use their religion as an ethnicity.

You heard the term 'Jewish'...

Seminole · December 15, 2006, 4:53pm

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Obviously. Proudly declaring that the Jews need to be wiped out and wearing the fact that you are a bigger hater, racist and war monger than nutjob.

Nutjob also shows great insecurity at the same time as displaying his belief of superiority. No surprise that hypocrisy is a big part of the mix as well (such claiming and demanding free speech when his country is one of the worst violators of free speech in the world). Such a complex man

Ma_Mooli · December 15, 2006, 4:58pm

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Man_with_a_Plan · December 15, 2006, 7:24pm

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I wonder whether Ahmadinejad could say such things if Russia did not have their hand on his shoulder.

mercenary2k · December 15, 2006, 7:29pm

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They use that term mostly because many they just identify themselves as Jewish instead of Arab Jews or Iranian Jews or Pakistani Jews.

They are hate crimes committed agaisnt them so they cannot feel part of that culture while still being a Jews, so they consider themselves just Jews.

Afridi786 · December 15, 2006, 8:12pm

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and its about time you stopped pretending to be 1. Interpret that however you wish.

mercenary2k · December 15, 2006, 9:13pm

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sorry pal, you are not an official spokesman on Islam.

I love Islam and I am proud to be a Muslim

The disgrace to Islam is these jihals who have incorporated tribal BS + their own bigotry + their own political agenda to create a hybrid version of Islam

And If I am against that you say that I am not a muslim

How convenient.

vroom · December 15, 2006, 9:36pm

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yes he could, because israel/US wont allow the freedom of his nation to generate nucleur power and aim to hold them back in various other ways, hes left with no choice.

even the taleban and saddam talked tough rhetoric. the question now is, if ahmedinejad has substance in his words. does he have the gadgets to carry out his threats

Afridi786 · December 15, 2006, 10:21pm

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lol...dude...either u r not muslim or you have very little knowledge about islam, every1 can tell by ur comments else where, if u didnt say u were, i doubt anyone would ever come to the assumption you are. You seem like a self hating muslim (sound familiar?)...lol...if u r indeed one....convenient...lol...what tribal bs, bigotry, politcal agenda, r ya talking about, plz tell me how i am or how most muslims r, excluding your enlightened self of course. :)

Captain1 · December 15, 2006, 10:25pm

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^ Afridi, refrain from personal judgements. Thanks.

Afridi786 · December 15, 2006, 10:27pm

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Sorry, I guess my old intolerant and backward muslim ways got to me, I won't do it again.

mercenary2k · December 15, 2006, 10:39pm

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Good:)

Afridi786 · December 15, 2006, 10:45pm

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I did it for Captain, not you. Don't be smug, I see right thru you.

deer · December 15, 2006, 11:29pm

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I have heard his interviews, its said by corporate media that he is saying that the holacaust did not happen, but all i have actually heard him say is that we need to question the holacaust. Mass killings happened all over europe aand were certainly not speicifc to the Jews! while i am not denying that the halaucaust happened, i also do not understand how come other mass muders of other populations is not discussed in the same manner!

mercenary2k:

With statemenets like that, is it any wonder that the world fears a Nuclear Weapon in the hands of this mad man. How stupid is he not to realize this?

How exactly does he plan to wipe out Israel without Nuclear Weapons.

This man and the Iranian governement are a disgrace to Muslims all over the world

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061212/wl_nm/iran_holocaust_dc

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061212/wl_nm/iran_holocaust_dc

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Tuesday told delegates at an international conference questioning the Holocaust that
Israel’s days were numbered.

Ahmadinejad, who has sparked international outcry by referring to the killing of six million Jews in World War Two as a “myth” and calling for Israel to be “wiped off the map,” launched another verbal attack on the Jewish state.

“Thanks to people’s wishes and God’s will the trend for the existence of the Zionist regime is downwards and this is what God has promised and what all nations want,” he said.

“Just as the Soviet Union was wiped out and today does not exist, so will the Zionist regime soon be wiped out,” he added.

His words received warm applause from delegates at the Holocaust conference, who included ultra-Orthodox anti-Israel Jews and European and American writers who argue the Holocaust was either fabricated or exaggerated.

The
Vatican, Germany and the
European Commission added their voices on Tuesday to others – such as the United States and Israel – who have condemned the Tehran meeting.

Iran says it organized the conference to shed light on the reasons behind the formation of the state of Israel after World War Two and to allow researchers from countries where it is a crime to question the Holocaust to speak freely.

“Iran is your home and is the home of all freedom seekers of the world,” Ahmadinejad said. “Here you can express your views and exchange opinions in a friendly, brotherly and free atmosphere.”

“FACT-FINDING” COMMITTEE FORMED

He urged countries where Holocaust denial is a crime, to respect freedom of speech and not to take action against any of the conference participants on their return.

Human rights groups frequently number Iran as one of the world’s worst violators of free speech, where scores of newspapers have been closed, journalists jailed, access to Web sites blocked and government critics hounded out of the country.

Delegates at the meeting earlier on Tuesday agreed to form a “fact-finding” committee to study the Holocaust.

The head of the new committee, identified as Iranian academic Mohammad Ali Ramin, said its members were “not racist or opposed to any particular group.”

“Rather they are just seeking the truth to set humanity truly free,” the ISNA students news agency quoted him as saying, without naming the committee members.

Robert Faurisson, a French scholar who has described the Holocaust as a “historical lie,” said the committee included members from the United States, France, Canada, Switzerland, Austria, Iran, Bahrain and
Syria, ISNA reported.

The Vatican called the Holocaust an “immense tragedy” which had to remain forever a warning for all people to respect the rights of others.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said the Tehran meeting “shows the danger of the situation Israel is in and in particular the threat that Israel lives under.”

She was speaking after meeting Ehud Olmert, who was on his first visit to Germany as Israeli Prime Minister.

Germany has made it a priority to support Israel since the Holocaust under the Nazis and the end of World War Two in 1945.

EU Commissioner Franco Frattini expressed “shock and indignation,” adding: “Anti-Semitism has no place in Europe; nor should it in any other part of the world.”

deer · December 15, 2006, 11:30pm

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wow captain!!! whats up are u good friends with Mercenary or something!?1

deer · December 15, 2006, 11:41pm

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note how this lists 20 million plus who died under stalin's reign of terror! mu understanding of what hte Irani President A... is saying was that why not discuss other groups as much. u know in europe there were cases before the human rigths committee about freedom of sepach, b/c these authors, historians, who were by the way european (non-muslim/ arab) on the basis of freedom of speach b/c they were not allowed to investigate the Holocaust. My understanding was thats what the Irani President is questioning. I have yet ot hear otherwise, except in commentary and opinions on what he has said!

i read his interview in times magazine, it was wierd b/c they totally demonized him the paragraphs before, then they listed his interview and the wierd thing was when u read the interview u are kinda like...um...he isnt saying what ppl are claiming he is saying, there was such obvious misrepresentation of facts!!!!

This table lists events involving 100,000 or more human deaths.
Mass Killings
China: Mao's reign of terror, 1949-65 20 million plus [2,4,5]
USSR: Stalin's terror, 1936-53 20 million plus [1,2,5]

WWII: combatant deaths 16.8 million [4]
WWII: noncombatant deaths
Russia/USSR:civilian deaths by Nazis 7-12 million [4,5]
Europe: The Holocaust, 1933-45 6 million [1,4]
Other WWII noncombatant deaths 6 million [4]

Sino-Japanese War: 1937-45 3.5 million [4]
Korean War: 1950-53 2 million [4]

mercenary2k · December 15, 2006, 11:45pm

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so you are a hypocrite as well

mercenary2k · December 15, 2006, 11:49pm

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The reason the mass murder of others is not discussed in the same manner is because no other population were systematically extermianted like the JEws

27 Million Russians and 30 Million Chinese died in the War.

But most of Russian and Chinese casualties were as a result of heavy deathtoll inflicted by the German and Japanese Armies during their invasion and wars with Russia and China

Where as Jews who lived mostly in Poland and other places in occupied Europe were rounded up and then gassed to death.

That is the difference

And when 40% of all the Jews in the world are wiped out it is something to take notice at.

If 40% of all Muslims were killed in World War II, won't there be a national rememrence in all Islamic Nations and around the world for this barbarity?

And when Ariel Sharon questions the Holocaust of Muslims and pledges to wipe out all Islamic Nations of the map, how would the world react?

Captain1 · December 16, 2006, 12:46am

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mercenary2k, I asked him to refrain from personal judgments, in general it wasn’t only for him, you should refrain as well

farwah.raza: if you haven’t noticed, I’m moderator

deer · December 16, 2006, 1:17am

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mercenary2k:

The reason the mass murder of others is not discussed in the same manner is because no other population were systematically extermianted like the JEws

27 Million Russians and 30 Million Chinese died in the War.

But most of Russian and Chinese casualties were as a result of heavy deathtoll inflicted by the German and Japanese Armies during their invasion and wars with Russia and China

Where as Jews who lived mostly in Poland and other places in occupied Europe were rounded up and then gassed to death.

That is the difference

And when 40% of all the Jews in the world are wiped out it is something to take notice at.

If 40% of all Muslims were killed in World War II, won’t there be a national rememrence in all Islamic Nations and around the world for this barbarity?

And when Ariel Sharon questions the Holocaust of Muslims and pledges to wipe out all Islamic Nations of the map, how would the world react?

yea you are right Mercenary! its radically different then chinese and polish people, who were casualities. Perhaps what i should have said is, given what happened to native americans, and africans and given other mass murders, why is it that the holocaust alone is the one that no one can question. that is all I was saying.

Secondly check out this article, i believe its by Jewish authors, and u will see what teh Irani president really said! and how badly it was misrepresented to the world - in order to push a war on Iran!

her’es the article link: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12790.htm

so u see infact as always the Jewish people’s struglle, much like the Iraqi people’s struggle, is being used to push a neo-con war agenda!!

in other words … u are being played!!! and in part b/c of your hate of Muslim people. if you could for a moment not be so bigoted you would realize how mistaken u are with this hate!