Iran's President says that Israel will soon be wiped out / misquoted (merged)

With statemenets like that, is it any wonder that the world fears a Nuclear Weapon in the hands of this mad man. How stupid is he not to realize this?

How exactly does he plan to wipe out Israel without Nuclear Weapons.

This man and the Iranian governement are a disgrace to Muslims all over the world

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061212/wl_nm/iran_holocaust_dc

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061212/wl_nm/iran_holocaust_dc

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Tuesday told delegates at an international conference questioning the Holocaust that
Israel’s days were numbered.

Ahmadinejad, who has sparked international outcry by referring to the killing of six million Jews in World War Two as a “myth” and calling for Israel to be “wiped off the map,” launched another verbal attack on the Jewish state.

“Thanks to people’s wishes and God’s will the trend for the existence of the Zionist regime is downwards and this is what God has promised and what all nations want,” he said.

“Just as the Soviet Union was wiped out and today does not exist, so will the Zionist regime soon be wiped out,” he added.

His words received warm applause from delegates at the Holocaust conference, who included ultra-Orthodox anti-Israel Jews and European and American writers who argue the Holocaust was either fabricated or exaggerated.

The
Vatican, Germany and the
European Commission added their voices on Tuesday to others – such as the United States and Israel – who have condemned the Tehran meeting.

Iran says it organized the conference to shed light on the reasons behind the formation of the state of Israel after World War Two and to allow researchers from countries where it is a crime to question the Holocaust to speak freely.

“Iran is your home and is the home of all freedom seekers of the world,” Ahmadinejad said. “Here you can express your views and exchange opinions in a friendly, brotherly and free atmosphere.”

“FACT-FINDING” COMMITTEE FORMED

He urged countries where Holocaust denial is a crime, to respect freedom of speech and not to take action against any of the conference participants on their return.

Human rights groups frequently number Iran as one of the world’s worst violators of free speech, where scores of newspapers have been closed, journalists jailed, access to Web sites blocked and government critics hounded out of the country.

Delegates at the meeting earlier on Tuesday agreed to form a “fact-finding” committee to study the Holocaust.

The head of the new committee, identified as Iranian academic Mohammad Ali Ramin, said its members were “not racist or opposed to any particular group.”

“Rather they are just seeking the truth to set humanity truly free,” the ISNA students news agency quoted him as saying, without naming the committee members.

Robert Faurisson, a French scholar who has described the Holocaust as a “historical lie,” said the committee included members from the United States, France, Canada, Switzerland, Austria, Iran, Bahrain and
Syria, ISNA reported.

The Vatican called the Holocaust an “immense tragedy” which had to remain forever a warning for all people to respect the rights of others.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said the Tehran meeting “shows the danger of the situation Israel is in and in particular the threat that Israel lives under.”

She was speaking after meeting Ehud Olmert, who was on his first visit to Germany as Israeli Prime Minister.

Germany has made it a priority to support Israel since the Holocaust under the Nazis and the end of World War Two in 1945.

EU Commissioner Franco Frattini expressed “shock and indignation,” adding: “Anti-Semitism has no place in Europe; nor should it in any other part of the world.”

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With statemenets like that, is it any wonder that the world fears a Nuclear Weapon in the hands of this mad man. How stupid is he not to realize this?

is he stupid or does he take pleasure in rubbing it in everyone's face right now? dunno, but who cares

How exactly does he plan to wipe out Israel without Nuclear Weapons.

has he said that he will nuke israel? I am no fan of the dude but lets be honest here, I dont think he has said he wanted to nuke israel

"Just as the Soviet Union was wiped out and today does not exist, so will the Zionist regime soon be wiped out," he added.

He is comparing it to the demise of soviet union, which was not as a result of anyone bombing it. but it just fell apart due to all kinds of different reasons.

included ultra-Orthodox anti-Israel Jews and European and American writers who argue the Holocaust was either fabricated or exaggerated.

so anti semite jews?

He urged countries where Holocaust denial is a crime, to respect freedom of speech and not to take action against any of the conference participants on their return.

that to me makes no sense, if someone wants to deny it, let them..either monitor and control all speech or let ppl talk. while I have no sympathy for the holocaudt deniers, just like I dont have sympathy for idiots who want to disrespect the prophet, either control em both or let em both speak, those who want to listen will listen and those who will look at it as rants of bigoted nutjobs would treat it as such.

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Yesterday I met three young Mormon missionaries from US who are on a Europe Tour. One of them claimed that he belonged to the lost tribes of Israel after I told him that a small Jewish community has lived in North, North-East and Western and Southern India since biblical times. Many of these Indian Jews are now choosing Israel as their new ‘old’ home.

Check the following link for more.

He told me that it is exactly as prohecied in Bible.. that Jewish community would slowly return to Israel.

This is also true about many other countries like South Africa where there are about 50,000 Jews living for hundreds of years. Many have started going back.

And Iran thinks of wiping them out! Hope good sense prevails.

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ahmadinijad is a lunatic, Israel is here to stay, he should get used to it. i wonder why he has such a beef with Israel? If a war was to break out, Israel could annihilate Iran easily. I can understand why Israel is armign itself with nukes, you need seriours protection when your surrounded by enemies. I also think Pakistan should start diplomatic realtions with Israel, I mean, what harm has Israel done to Pakistan, ever?!?! nothing that is. pakistan choses to support Arab nations who have been historicaly unreliable allies. I mean how many muslims in the arab nations show support for kashmir? very very few. now compare how many pakistanis show fanatical suport palestine, ALOT do.
Israel is here to stay, Arab(and persian for that matter) nations should get used to it. Israel, if it wanted to, could easily take on all of the arab world easily. thats why Saudi Arabia is chosing to have diplomatic relations with Israel.

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A very good explanation.

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He reminds of Iraq's Al-Sahaf, you know the funny information minister.

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While I am no supporter of this fellow, I think his words are being taken out of context. the context could be understood by reading his quote when he compares his predicted fate of israel as simialr to that of USSR..

His quote was “Just as the Soviet Union was wiped out and today does not exist, so will the Zionist regime soon be wiped out,”

lets read this in proper context rather than thinking that he is threatening to attack with nukes.

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while I agree with almost everything that you have said there and have said the same previously on a number of occassions. I think that Israel has not been neutral when it comes to Pakistan, and has had some negative actions in the past. I dont recall it but someone had posted a pretty good analysis of it on GS a year or 2 ago. I will try to dig it up.

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^^ Well, I think Israel has had negative conotations due to the fact Pakistan is unwilling to recognize Israel. I mean Israel has had favorable nations with Muslim majority that respect Israel's right to exist, such as Turkey which is almost all Muslim, but Israel has had very close econmic and diplomatic ties with Turkey. I remeber when Pakistan and Israel started talks a while ago and it was very well recieved in Israel, while in Pakistan alot of people didnt liek it at all. I think if Pakistan recognizes Israel, and starts diplomatic ties with Israel, both could foster a good friendship. If you think about it, Israel and Pakistan have alot in common in terms of creation, and other things. Remember, Israel never started any beef with Pakistan. If Pakistan and Israel where to start a good realtionship both could benefit in many areas (for example arms productions, an area in which both countries are doing very good at). I think Pakistan should recognize Israel, and start diplomatic relations with tthe country.

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again while I agree with majority of what you say, the cause and effect here is not quite accurate. again I will have to dig up the info that soemone provided here earlier, but it will take time.

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Just because some Muslims do not support Pakistan 100% on Kashmir issue (how many actually do?), it does not mean that Pakistan become a supporter of an apartheid regime. For a moment, forget that Palestinians are Muslims. Think of them as humans alone, and now see if Pakistan should have supported a people who have been displaced in millions from their homes, whose lands have been usurped, whose economy has been destroyed ... and who even today are victims of state-terror.
I don't think anyone with his conscience alive would support the oppressors. Even many Jews understand this.

merecenary:

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With statemenets like that, is it any wonder that the world fears a Nuclear Weapon in the hands of this mad man. How stupid is he not to realize this?
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World fears nuclear "weapons" in his hands, when there is absolutely no proof that he is looking for ones. The "fears" are unfounded, and are projected out of proportions just like in the case of Iraq.

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The Taliban come to mind. So does Pakistan's support of North Korea's nuclear program.

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World fears nuclear "weapons" in his hands, when there is absolutely no proof that he is looking for ones. The "fears" are unfounded, and are projected out of proportions just like in the case of Iraq.
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Anyone who doesn't think Iran has designs on nukes is either in denial, blind or a fool.

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I completely agree with you, sad thing is we all know how media will spin this for their agendas or prolly have, and Israel will once again become the victim and sum vulnerable state about to be attacked. Irans prez shud be smart enuff to realize by doing this more people r blindly supporting Israel in every aspect...just because they have the holocaust in mind. Anyways it gives us an oppurtunity see how the propoganda machine runs and spins the truth.

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^^ Well, Israel is the said home of the Jews, in Quran, the Bible and the Torah. And it has been prophecized that Jews will return to their homeland of Israel in all Holy books that all Muslims believe in.

And well I think Israel might have some negative feelings for Pakistan because during the Arab-Israeli wars Pakistan did provide millitary support(in form of air force) for the Arabs. And it was because of these wars that Palestine lost alot of its teritory. the Arab nations were confident that they could easily beat Israel, but the small nation of Israel ended up defeating all these countries. Like I said, Israel needs defense as any country would if it is surrounded by hostile nations. Israel is here to stay, and will stay here.

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Why do we so conviniently forget that all of the muslim states today were created after a fallout from the demise of the Ottoman empire and the French and British regimes. Israel is one to come out of that fallout as well and has just as much legitimacy in terms of world politics as other Islamic countries do.

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I am talking of stuff that predates the six-day war as well as the yom kippur war. but I cant find it and have to search for info in previous threads so its not a valid point right now

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Remember, those lands were "Muslim" (populated as well as governed) before, and remained after the 'fallout', Israel was not "Jew controlled/governed" area before.

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They were more turkish controlled yet muslim, which explains why Arabs revolted for their own state against the Ottoman empire. After that, the French and British established control and chalked up the countries as they wished and as deals were bargained with them by both the Jews and the Arabs.

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The area on which Israel was suppose to be created had Jewish Majorities just like Muslims in British India were a minority but they were majorities in some areas which became Pakistan.

But if India and 5 other countries attack Pakistan in order to destroy it in 1947 and Pakistan fights back and takes over more land and in the process millions of hindus flee with the retreating Indian Army.

Whose fault is it that hindus have been displaced? Pakistan who just fought back or India for instagting this war?

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The Jews.