Interfaith marriages

[Mr_Fraudia]

Re: Interfaith marriages

@HallaGulla

Mere swaal ka jawab nahin aaya.
Why should a non-muslim man desirous of marrying a muslim women embrace Islam ? Wife follows husband’s religion/surname.

told u the answer, go back and read it.

[HallaGulla]

Re: Interfaith marriages

@Fraudz

you are still incorrect. woman does not have to embrace islam sooner or later. again I will let u figure out the specifics here.

and lastly its not the logic that the husband's religion "should" previal, you are reading that incorrect.

its that husband's religion "would" or "could" prevail therefore to ensure that the offspring are still muslim the husband has to be muslim, since most of not all cultures are heavily patriarchal

Yaar straight question. *
*Muslim Woman Non-muslim man, what is the religion of the kids ???

[Mr_Fraudia]

Re: Interfaith marriages

i gave you the straight answer, go back and read it.
islam basically says that the child of any muslim needs to be a muslim. thats it.

[HallaGulla]

Re: Interfaith marriages

@Fraudz

i gave you the straight answer, go back and read it. islam basically says that the child of any muslim needs to be a muslim. thats it.

Ok Ok.

[shah1979]

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Oh my god....That's quite a debate here...my sister was engaged to a christian american, who converted before the wedding. But that was his open choice we never asked him to. We were fine with him being a christian as long as he would keep my sister happy.

[khanbabax]

Re: Interfaith marriages

^^
You dont mind if she live the life of zina.

[HallaGulla]

Re: Interfaith marriages

@shah1979

Oh my god....That's quite a debate here...my sister was engaged to a christian american, who converted before the wedding. But that was his open choice we never asked him to. We were fine with him being a christian as long as he would keep my sister happy.

*This is precisely the question I was asking. So his conversion was of his own volition. *

Sorry to ask one more question...in such a case will it be allowed a muslim woman to embrace the religion of her non-muslims husband ?

[teelobhain]

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I dont mind marriages with the people with the elhay kitab - i.e. christians and jews but when it comes to hindus or parsis etc the marriage isnt accepted according to islam...but that doesnt mean i have anything against other religions ;D

[Amber11]

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@dawa_i_dil

Thankyou amber...she got my point ..i have used the word impolite in the sense she has precieved......and i am not a scholar of english as my english is desi pakistani english and brother Fraudia while living abroad can touch the heights but i cannot......

You are welcome!...Its just sometimes words can be confusing..so wat I have learnt is to ask back that Is this wat you meant when u said that???..becuz thats wat I heard...at least the other person has a clue to the other's understanding .....Anyway..Good discussion guys:)

[HallaGulla]

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@teelobhain

I dont mind marriages with the people with the elhay kitab - i.e. christians and jews but when it comes to hindus or parsis etc the marriage isnt accepted according to islam...but that doesnt mean i have anything against other religions ;D

By ehlay kitab you mean..people of the book ?
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Why islam doesn't accept Hindus/Parsis marriages with Muslims (It is a different issues that marriages do take place)
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And who decided that so and so are the people of the book while others are not ? *
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In my opinion this is more strong thing to advocate and follow than castiesm which has plagued Hindu society. In former case entire religion is banished while in latter it is only a class, but both leading to unpleasant situations.

[shah1979]

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@khanbabax

^^
You dont mind if she live the life of zina.

He was a christian and we did nikah…I hope u understand nikah atleast. He converted before the nikah and said his kalimas in such a cute way. You ask him whether he is a muslim and he won’t just say yes, he would say Alhamdulillah…

BUT…even if he had NOT converted…we would still do a nikah and if we say all the right stuff and our parents are there…her vali and gawah…and they do aijab-o-qabool…it’s okay by me and that does not constitute zina…

I did my paper on Zina and would love to fwd it to you so you can read what constitute zina and what are the pre-requisites.

I am a law graduate and I have done an extensive study of Shariah law…I’m very clear in my mind, what Allah expects from us!! Feel free to ask…u cannot offend me…!!:halo:

[khanbabax]

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^^
A muslim lady marrying a Christian falls under the category of Zina because nikah is not valed.

[HallaGulla]

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@shah1979

He was a christian and we did nikah…I hope u understand nikah atleast. He converted before the nikah and said his kalimas in such a cute way. You ask him whether he is a muslim and he won’t just say yes, he would say Alhamdulillah…

BUT…even if he had NOT converted…we would still do a nikah and if we say all the right stuff and our parents are there…her vali and gawah…and they do aijab-o-qabool…it’s okay by me and that does not constitute zina…

I did my paper on Zina and would love to fwd it to you so you can read what constitute zina and what are the pre-requisites.

I am a law graduate and I have done an extensive study of Shariah law…I’m very clear in my mind, what Allah expects from us!! Feel free to ask…u cannot offend me…!!:halo:

A very good reply.

[teelobhain]

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I never heard that its a sin for a woman to marry a Christian or jew arent they from the ehlay kitab? ;S

[HallaGulla]

Re: Interfaith marriages

@teelobhain

I never heard that its a sin for a woman to marry a Christian or jew arent they from the ehlay kitab? ;S

Maam,

What is your response to post # 90 ?

[zer01]

Re: Interfaith marriages

@Fraudz

yeah, who has time to find out any info about anyone before falling in love. you just like see the person and boom, love ho jata hai.. naam shaam, kucch naheen patah hota. exactly like it happens in movies etc. no need to talk to the person. I once fel in love with a girl on a traffic light, too bad it turned green soon afterwards

wonder how love happens in other places where inter caste marriages are friwned upon and shyt, plus agar love ho jaye aur mahoorat na niklat toh phir alag masla hota hai. and in some cases girls have ti marry trees before they can marry their dudes.

its all a littlr too much, everyone has to answer for themselves, let everyone do what they want to do.

Ama sahib, kia fa'ida Pir honay ka? Ek nigah-e-jalali hi kaafi thee Isharay per. kiya majaal jo sabz hota umr bhar.

[zer01]

Re: Interfaith marriages

[Yusufali 2:221] Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. *Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allures you. *Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But Allah beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind: That they may celebrate His praise.

Inter-marriage between the believers in God and the idolaters has also been prohibited by Tawrat and Injil.

You must not intermarry with them, neither giving your daughters to their sons nor taking their daughters for your sons; if you do, they will draw your sons away from the Lord and make them worship other gods. (Deut 7: 3 and 4)

Do not unite yourselves with unbelievers; they are no fit mates for you. What has righteousness to do with wickedness? Can light consort with darkness? ( 2 Corinthians 6: 14)

According to verse 21 of al Rum, Allah created for us from ourselves spouses that we may find repose in them, and caused between us love and compassion, therefore, spiritual affinity is essential between two life-partners, which is not possible if one believes in Allah and the other is an infidel . More often than not the children are affected by the conflicting beliefs of the parents. The risk is quite unnecessary, because any adverse response will lead directly to hell.

@shah1979

I am a law graduate and I have done an extensive study of Shariah law…I’m very clear in my mind, what Allah expects from us!! Feel free to ask…u cannot offend me…!!:halo:

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[teelobhain]

Re: Interfaith marriages

@HallaGulla

Maam,

What is your response to post # 90 ?

Oh i never read the previous posts * I appologise*
i got my answer now...

[Mr_Fraudia]

Re: Interfaith marriages

@zer01

Ama sahib, kia fa’ida Pir honay ka? Ek nigah-e-jalali hi kaafi thee Isharay per. kiya majaal jo sabz hota umr bhar.

that is pre-piri days

[picoico]

Re: Interfaith marriages

In my opinion this is more strong thing to advocate and follow than castiesm which has plagued Hindu society. In former case entire religion is banished while in latter it is only a class, but both leading to unpleasant situations.

:halo:

Oh brother…to compare the two is lunacy. One choice involves two individuals…the other involves the abuse of an entire segment of society for the benifit of another.

I would never marry someone out of the faith as it’s important that spouses share values…otherwise both are being selfish and aren’t looking at the issue of how to raise kids.