Interfaith marriages

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Re: Interfaith marriages

Brother..fraudia cool...Yaar ,why you be so angry....you take my one word ..misinterpreted it and posted tens of material over it...well..i do not get offended over the personal attacks whatsoever but i request you plz. do not mis-interprete my words... i have said that no politeness ...it means sweet..meethi ..raseeli..awaz mai loach...shaad ghuli awaz ...gis sai sanfi jazbat mai aag bharak uthay...... dil ko lubhanay wali awaz...mutrannam lahja...naqrai qahqahay......etc etc....this is real meaning of politeness accordng to my little knowledge.....But you take impoliteness as if a man just say a single word to non-mehram ..then she should un-buckle her sandle .and start uttering abuses to him .......LOL brother ....and whoever do that is not following islam but have some psychic problem.....islam never impose unecessry difficulties over the muslims...if she had a valid reason ..she can talk to a man but in a stern and stiff voice as Anwar Qureshi has given the quran ayat....

Aap kai khayal mai aurat kai impolite **honay ka yai matlab hai khai agar koi baichara mard uss si koi zaroori baat karay to wo aurat uus mard ko maa bahain ki galia nikalna shooro kar dai.....LOL**

Allah knows best His creations and knows that where His creations have tendency to fall...yes ...in a woman voice there is so great effect that it can cause tremendous harm as well as tremendous benifit......thats why women are not llowed to give Azan ....in the mosque ......thats why if imam do some mistake in qiraat ..womens are not allowed to utter a single word except they should start shaking thier Chuurian (bangles) ...no voice at all......now brother tell me ...if in greatest pillar of islam ...namaz..such a preventive attitude is considered then what about the usual day world....

What a beautiful persian verse of Iqbal is there ...i do not know the persian but i give the urdu translation......

A muslaman aurat apni awaz ko quran sai munawwar karo..tumhari awaz mai wo taseer hai jis nai khattab kai baitay, umar ki taqdeer badal di thee

And i have repeated time and again that...just give me a single man parallel to umar as a leader ...not from islamic history but from the whole human history...just one !!!!!!

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http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ln=eng&QR=1121

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http://www.islam-qa.com/special/index.php?ref=7576&subsite=16&ln=eng

http://www.islam-qa.com/special/index.php?ref=32670&subsite=16&ln=eng

http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ln=eng&QR=8827

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http://www.islam-qa.com/special/index.php?ref=1497&subsite=16&ln=eng

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http://www.islam-qa.com/special/index.php?ref=5384&subsite=16&ln=eng

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Segrregation of sexes is the major aspect of islam as much as possible .... accepting or implementing it is a far different thing....islam do not cuts the evil...it cuts the roots !!!!!!!!

[Mr_Fraudia]

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@Mabrook

^^ no not impolite.
but then how much we live to islamic standard? I sometimes hav to shake hands with white males.even in pak all my in-laws like to shake hands n when i tried to tell one politely i didn’t like it they started the argue i’m ur brother blah blah…from wat i remember the hadith was to make ur voice rough. not to b rude or impolite.

question is was the hadeeth, or the interpretation of the surah to make your voice rough or to avoud talking in an alluring manner.

and I agree with your last statement, it did not say that one should be impolite. and that is what I had an issue with.

[Mr_Fraudia]

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dawa_i_dil nay farmaya

Brother..fraudia cool...Yaar ,why you be so angry....

what makes you think I am angry?

*you take my one word ..misinterpreted it and posted tens of material over it...well..i do not get offended over the personal attacks whatsoever but i request you plz. do not mis-interprete my words... *

sorry, the misinterpretation was yours when you stated that it is not allowed to be polite. I did not twist any of your words.

you stated lainly that "women are not allowed to be polite. I countered that your statement was in fact erroneous.

i have said that no politeness ...it means sweet..meethi ..raseeli..awaz mai loach...shaad ghuli awaz ...gis sai sanfi jazbat mai aag bharak uthay...... dil ko lubhanay wali awaz...mutrannam lahja...naqrai qahqahay......etc etc....this is real meaning of politeness accordng to my little knowledge.....

So the root of the problem here is that your definition of politeness in incorrect.

*But you take impoliteness as if a man just say a single word to non-mehram ..then she should un-buckle her sandle .and start uttering abuses to him *

dude, figure out what being impolite means.

** ..she can talk to a man but in a stern and stiff voice as Anwar Qureshi has given the quran ayat....**

which does NOT mean impolite, which you claim it means.

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Aap kai khayal mai aurat kai impolite *honay ka yai matlab hai khai agar koi baichara mard uss si koi zaroori baat karay to wo aurat uus mard ko maa bahain ki galia nikalna shooro kar dai.....*LOL**

Yet again, you are just showing that you dont understand what being impolite means. Your statement was misleading, incorrect, and you can be murghay ki aik taang and claim asmuch as you want that it is true. But its not. avoiding speaking ina sureelu awaz or being stern and matter of fact does not mean one is not allowed to be polite.

PS: thanks for all the links, however not a single one of them supports your statement that women are not allowed to be 'polite' to namehram men when talking to them.

[Amber11]

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Do u guys think...that people usually have different PERCEPTIONS of same words...Stick to the topic guys...wasnt it supposed to be discussing interfaith marriages rather then Politeness or impoliteness/allureness watever in a woman's voice....wat about some that have Rani mukherjee's voice....

[Mr_Fraudia]

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amber11- people have different perceptions of the same word.

But then there is the actual and most commonly used meaning of the word.

When we translate or explain, we have to be very careful in what words are used because the wrong choice of word can alter the meaning of what is being said.

..and especially when ones goes and attributes it to Quran, while it is one's own understanding and then one's own choice to use a word that is incorrect and is giving the wrong message.

My goal here is for people to see and understand that, this is not the case, whether or not te author agrees with me. because someone else reading this would have said..wow, so women can not be polite to na mehram men...and walk away with a wrong idea.

I have made my case. and am done with it.

[Amber11]

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U know Fraudz...Ultimately its the person's choice , how they percieve it...For a person Like me..I would think..Why and is it practical...Its not a battle of words...rather understanding...then again there r people that take things on the face value..like Oh This is it...and u dont have a choice!!!

[Mr_Fraudia]

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amber I completely agree

[Light_Bearer]

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@Fraudz

chal bay.. friday I fell in love with a chica in the elevator, too bad she got off on the 6th floor :( I was hoping she would stick around until 12th floor.

Yaar ungraizy parh laitay to emergency stop ka button daba saktay thay.:D

[Mr_Fraudia]

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aur jo baqi log they elevator mein un ka kya banta...

[Light_Bearer]

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^Love is blind as well. Ab kia kia sikhaon. sigh

[Mr_Fraudia]

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haan haan love is blind, but not the audience

[system]

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Thankyou amber...she got my point ..i have used the word impolite in the sense she has precieved......and i am not a scholar of english as my english is desi pakistani english and brother Fraudia while living abroad can touch the heights but i cannot......

[HallaGulla]

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Mere swaal ka jawab nahin aaya.
Why should a non-muslim man desirous of marrying a muslim women embrace Islam ? Wife follows husband's religion/surname.

[muali]

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@moin.ul.atiq

Are you an Indian muslim or a Hindu? You should've asked her to convert before marriage.. Its like in India.. Man, you speak with any Muslim scholar in Pakistan and they'll tell you that marriage between a muslim and a non-muslim without conversion is an act of zena.. Allah aapko aqal de!

Thank u for your concern,
but no thanks
Your post is self explanatory ,in your statement I highlighted ^^ the **key* words.... And after that i got nothing to say .*

[Mr_Fraudia]

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@dawa_i_dil

Thankyou amber…she got my point ..i have used the word impolite in the sense she has precieved…and i am not a scholar of english as my english is desi pakistani english and brother Fraudia while living abroad can touch the heights but i cannot…

well now that you know what the word impolite really means. I suggest you change your initial statement to avoid confusing the other people who may think of the word impolite as it is supposed to mean rather than giving some other unique meaning to the word.