Re: Interfaith Dialogue - Islam and Christianity
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You still didn't answer my question. Is God presently still involved with His creation or is He only looking on from a distance according to the Quraan (not scholars).
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Still involved in creation, i surely dont know well I know Allaah is created everything for the Human.
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YUSUFALI: Allah! There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).
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YUSUFALI: Allah is He Who raised the heavens without any pillars that ye can see; is firmly established on the throne (of authority); He has subjected the sun and the moon (to his Law)! Each one runs (its course) for a term appointed. He doth regulate all affairs, explaining the signs in detail, that ye may believe with certainty in the meeting with your Lord.
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YUSUFALI: (Allah) Most Gracious is firmly established on the throne (of authority).
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4. Let me rephrase my original question. Can we notice God/Allaah by our senses e.g. can we see Him, hear Him, touch Him, etc.
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According to the Prophetic tradition we cant see Allaah, we cant touch Allaah, no we cant hear Allaah but throught the Quran we have the words of Allaah. How is that
We are encouraged in Islam to use our senses and our common sense to recognize that all of this universe could not possibly come into existence on its own do you agree with me regarding this. That is beyond our ability to do, yet it is something that we can understand, here is where you can see the creation of God well this is what is proof of God. Let me quote an eg.
We don't have to see an artist to recognize a painting, correct? So, if we see paintings without seeing artists painting them, in the same way, we can believe that Allaah created everything without having to see Him (or touch, or hear, etc.).
But we dont need All that coz Allaah is all hearer, all seer in terms of Knowledged.References from Quran and provides you with what I have explained on top.
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YUSUFALI: He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in Six Days, and is moreover firmly established on the Throne (of Authority). He knows what enters within the earth and what comes forth out of it, what comes down from heaven and what mounts up to it. And He is with you wheresoever ye may be. And Allah sees well all that ye do. **
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**SHAKIR: And with Him are the keys of the unseen treasures-- *none knows them but He; and He knows what is in the land and the sea, and there falls not a leaf but He knows it, nor a grain in the darkness of the earth, nor anything green nor dry but (it is all) in a clear book. *
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- So, one can't from the Quraan paint a picture of Allaah in one's mind using descriptive verses? The Quraan do not go into much detail as to Allaah's form?
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According to the Quran, Allaah tells us that He is the only creator and sustainer of all that exists(I have provided references for these attributes from Surah Hashr thats Chapter 59 22-24) and that nothing and no one exists alongside Him, nor does Allaah have any partners. Allaah tells us that He is not created, nor is He like His creation in anyway.
Allaah calls Himself by a number of names thats Allaah's attributes for eg The first, the Wise, the forgive, the merciful, the truth, the sustainer, the helper, the knower of unseen The Eternal,** who is sought after by His creation, while He has no need from them at all. (As-Samad ) **
He always has existed and He never was created, as He is not like His creation, nor similar to it, in any way. **The one in bold its chapter 112 which is the best definition of Theology.
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**YUSUFALI: Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
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**YUSUFALI:* Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
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**YUSUFALI:* He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
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**YUSUFALI:* And there is none like unto Him.
*The last verse shud clarify you answer, regarding Allaah is none unto like him in the entire creation. *
This is regarding Who is Allaah?
"Allaah" is the same word used by Christian and Jewish Arabs in the Bible, before Islam came. On page one of Genesis in the Old Testament, we find the word "Allaah" seventeen times.
I have mentioned the above concept earlier.
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- Why can't Allaah change His mind/plan? Must I take it that the mentioned story from the Bible and other similar scriptures portray Allaah differently from the way the Quraan portrays Him?
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Yes you are right Allaah is portrayed differently and defined well in the Quran. For eg. in Bible in the creation its given that Allaah rested on the 7th day after 6 days Genesis Chapter 2-1-2 1-Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2-And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made of creation. But Quran refutes it in Surah 2:255. Well brother I want references from Bible that Allaah can change his mind, I would love to see it
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YUSUFALI: Allah! There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep.
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Interestingly the Bible say Allaah is jealous on us and don't want us to worship idols
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Brother, just because Bible says it does does it mean Bible is right when its got so many contradictions in it, well i dont wont to transcend the topic but hardly matters. Why shud Allaah be jealous tell me why i will provide a verse from Quran. Read it carefully.
006.136YUSUFALI: Out of what Allah hath produced in abundance in tilth and in cattle, they assigned Him a share: they say, according to their fancies: "This is for Allah, and this" - for our "partners"! but the share of their" partners "reacheth not Allah, whilst the share of Allah reacheth their "partners" ! evil (and unjust) is their assignment!
This verse proves why Allaah shud be jealous, when Allaah is the creator, they cant even create a fly
022.073YUSUFALI: O men! Here is a parable set forth! listen to it! Those on whom, besides Allah, ye call, cannot create (even) a fly, if they all met together for the purpose! and if the fly should snatch away anything from them, they would have no power to release it from the fly. Feeble are those who petition and those whom they petition!
. I accept your answer, and didn’t want to sound rude.