Inter-Faith/Inter-racial Marriages.

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*Originally posted by Shahreen: *
I remember last Eid Harris wore a sporran with his shalwar kameez and yes, he does have a kilt too.
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im sure that looked real cute :)

my cousins lived in Aberdeen and i used to love wearing those kilt material skirts they were so cute!

have you been to Loch Lamond? its gorgeous

Yes Xara I have, I'll dig out the pics and post them in travel for you sometime.

He is scottish!!! I had no idea. He was darn cute though :bummer:

What do you mean, WAS cute?

She meant he gone from cute to :yummy:

Sure thing…anytime FF. :wave:

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Its (in my marriage) about Muslims not standing up to potect their religion. What I mean by that is...not a lot of us will stand up and condemn the violence, terrorists, and barbaric behavior. None of the leading organizations(Muslim) or the Imams make an effort to publicize their views about these horrofic acts. Its about people getting beheaded, dead bodies paraded and stomped on. All of this does not conjure up images of peace and harmony we all like to clamor about. **Its about her (my wife) thinking why would she want to visit Pakistan or let her children visit Pakistan if there is so much hate for the Americans.
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You have raised two distinct topics in your post, however both are related. At the cost of dabbling a bit into some political issues, I think your first point is more important, and that is we (muslims) have allowed Islam to be hijacked and represented by a minority of violent factions. I agree completely that our scholars and our leaders have done an inadequate job in distancing themselves from the violence and condemning it. Your second point is about hatred for America. Unfortunately there is no easy answer. On a lighter note, perhaps you can take her to Islamabad in front of the US Embassy and show her the long line of Pakistanis applying for the US visa. :-)

Faisal, everytime things turn wicked in Pakistan, my wife wants to want to go there more. Most (all) of my friends in Lahore are anti-US, and we have (my wife more than I) night long debates on issues, but she has never felt any hatred (either at a personal level or at a nationalistic level), and she understands where they are coming from. As a matter of fact, when we visited Pakistan a few months after 9/11, my friends were saying to her that “CIA and Israel” did it, and the 4000 jews missing skhapeel. Safety obviously comes before anything else, e.g., I will think twice before going to Karachi. But we have traveled to Northern Areas and many other areas where anti-Americanism is rampant, but my wife has not taken a repulse to that. On the contrary, she wants to present a true side of being an American. And Pakistanis are not as bad as media makes them out to be (they are worse). Just kidding. My wife goes to Anarkali with my sister on a Rikshaw and if she could drive shift, she would probably go by herself. She feels safer in Lahore than she does in NYC. She takes our sons to swimming pool at the hotel all by herself while I do dil pashori with my college buddies.

We are going to Lahore in a month and a half.

Kaleem. You take your family to Pakistan to see your parents and siblings, and not worry about who hates Americans. The godo thing is that everyone hates Americans, we shouldn’t let that stop us from doing the things we want to.

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*Originally posted by Madhanee: *
The godo thing is that everyone hates Americans
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I disagree. Not everyone hates Americans. I am sure there are a few. But certainly not everyone. You have heard the term "batooN ke sher". Thats what it is. US is used as a punching bag bcz US govt does all these funky things around the world. Give these same people an opportunity to immigrate to US and 99% will hop on the first plane for NYC. Go figure!

Faisal, I meant that everyone in the group that hates America. But let’s be real, people genuinely hate America. It’s called Oedipus complex. As you said, want something that one doesn’t have. I am often reminded by my younger son that his friend’s parents let them stay up until 10.30 and how horrible a dad I am. He means it.

He’s even more yummy in the the flesh :wink:

Now that’s what I call a Highland Fling kana Shaz?

Madhanee, although I've not read anthing that you said but still, what's your point?

At first, my parents didn’t approve the engagement of my Big Bro with a Brit but later they agreed on his wish.

Those were the times when Karachi’s situation was out of control. Dad(May Allah :swt: rest his soul in peace) used to work in Saudi Arabia, and he had no job security whatsoever by serving their for 20+ years. My dad was expecting Big brother to do something for me and little brother, so that, we can all move there with him, mostly because of education and live our lives where basic needs of life are available until one call changed everything!

I still remember that evening when Big Bro informed our family that he has got engaged. Bro has always been sober and Mama’s boy unlike me and my lil bro, therefore, it was a shock for parents and to me as well. At the end of the day, all of us were judging the book by its cover. Mom convinced Dad to meet the girl, and he finally met Bro’s girl. Was happy with his choice.

After what had happened b/w my Bro and parents, my Mom said to me and lil bro, if you like any girl, just tell us. Don’t keep us in dark. That was then…

Now, I am about to be married in a month with a girl who’s family background is Christianity/Judaism. Life is good. :roman:

Romeo, I don’t want to lose it on you, again. It was about the depths of anal tendencies among Pakis and their fascination with finding something to hate.

Congrats Pakistani Tiger! :flower1:

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*Originally posted by Shahreen: *
What do you mean, WAS cute?
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Was cute as in when I saw his pic...ok ok he IS cute! Happy!

Much.

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By now my boys have figured out the major ones,

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Alas they grow so fast. My kids know all the curses in my mother-tongue and stop me constantly due to their Canadian political correctness. Where I was born and brought up, I often expressed my conviction that the other guy ("the cursee") and his mother were having "relations". My PC kids do not like that kind of language.

Since when have they started calling guys from Maalakand 'Scottish'?. He looks like a red bloodied pathan from head to toe. Well, i have only looked at the head.

So shahreen, what did you decide?

Who invented bagpipes first?:D

*Inter racial marriages can be
THE best thing that ever happen to a person. At least
for me it is. Obviously things are harder in the beginning
but then again who can claim to have a marriage without
having to work on some area of their life or
relationship. But I do believe and I know beyond any
doubts that my wife will agree a 100% that we did
a fine job of working those out.
My wife is a Pakistani American and for us
learning the language of the other was the most
important step to bridging the cultural gap. I do
believe that Pakistani culture as well as Persian
Uzbek culture are all very rich. And we have
tons of fun incorporating that into our families.
Whether it's food, clothes, lit, language, lifestyle,
art, entertainment. Nothing beats Persian Uzbek
and Pakistani essence. *