Re: Indian Modesty is different from Pakistani modesty
You people are calling for difference, I am definately sure, there is difference between Jats of haryana and Rajput of Rajastha :)
You mean there standards of modesty are different?
Re: Indian Modesty is different from Pakistani modesty
You mean there standards of modesty are different?
Of course, Ghoonghat is considered modesty in Rajasthan for women in Rajputs and in cow belt of UP-Bihar and same is not true for Jats anywhere be it Punjab or Haryana.
Standard of modesty are different in different places :)
Re: Indian Modesty is different from Pakistani modesty
Of course, Ghoonghat is considered modesty in Rajasthan for women in Rajputs and in cow belt of UP-Bihar and same is not true for Jats anywhere be it Punjab or Haryana.
Standard of modesty are different in different places :)
what about revealing clothes and nudity? Is it different from place to place or class to class?
Re: Indian Modesty is different from Pakistani modesty
lols per secular India aur religious Pakistan ka mudda kis ne uthaya? who said ke idian janata don't protest for immodesty?
modesty ka standard diff ha, india and Pak ma as kaur said. But it does not mean india is immodest. You are saying diff ha he nhe... That is the Point
Re: Indian Modesty is different from Pakistani modesty
modesty ka standard diff ha, india and Pak ma as kaur said. But it does not mean india is immodest. You are saying diff ha he nhe... That is the Point
I didn't say different hai hi nahin.. I said difference exist from class to class. All types of classes exist in both the countries. bollywood lovers (who can watch objectionable material in presence of family) and those who have reservation about such stuff and are of the view that respective media of their country don't represent their values.
Re: Indian Modesty is different from Pakistani modesty
I didn't say different hai hi nahin.. I said difference exist from class to class. All types of classes exist in both the countries. bollywood lovers (who can watch objectionable material in presence of family) and those who have reservation about such stuff and are of the view that respective media of their country don't represent their values.
Yes, you are right, this is another form of classification. This can be attributed to values not to culture.
Lie is sin, it is value, universal in nature
though a Brit women has different standard of modesty than a burqa clad arab woman
Re: Indian Modesty is different from Pakistani modesty
what about revealing clothes and nudity? Is it different from place to place or class to class?
aap ke liye khas comparisons prepare kiye hain.
Log kehte hain na sabar ka phal meetha hota hai.
Re: Indian Modesty is different from Pakistani modesty
udhaar muhabbat ki qenchi hai.. aur waise bhi humne baniye ke sood se dar ke to naya mulk banaya tha :D
yeh baat to aapkii durust hai k "udhaar moHabbbaty kii qaiNchii hai" kiuN k maiN ne yeh fiqra duukaanoN par likhaa dekhaa hai. magar moHabbat hogii tabhii na? abhii to dushmanii bhii ham moHabbat se nahiiN nibhaa paa rahe haiN...
chaleN, pahle injan le leN phir dostii bhii ho jaayegii! :)
Re: Indian Modesty is different from Pakistani modesty
Mujhe lagta Indian and Pakistani modesty is just being seen with females. Let us compare Indian and Pakistani modesty through males as well.
Aur main kahun to kya kahun i know i will be outnumbered 
Aur phir shayad koi yeh bole indian women are “loose.” jk TS bhai
THing is if you compare Pakistani tv vs Indian tv females are dressed modestly. It’s more accurate to real life compared to Bollywood vs Lollywood . If i want to prove one is more modest than other i will just post a modest version of one i want to show as modest and immodest version of what i want to show as immodest.
Let’s compare “modesty” of clothes on TV first.
Ok here are actresses from Pakistani tv
Mahira Khan of Humsafar-
Sanam Saeed Zindagi gulzar hai
Maya Ali from Aun Zara
Sanam Baloch Noorpur ki rani
Kankar
Durr-e-Shahwar
Saba Qamar from Bunty I love you. Loving the saris being worn here Me and my parents loved this drama.
These are actresses from Indian tv. Indian dramas start ok- great then they go downhill when they drag on. Not all dramas revolve around saas-bahu types.
Rajasthani based hindi tv show-based on child marriage
Rajasthani drama on how a husband helps his wife achieve dream of being an IPS officer in a traditional home
All the following set in Mumbai i think. The good one has her head covered
South Indian in a northern world
Set in Rural Punjab. Story of brother-sister bond
when young
when older
Gujurati story
Is there much difference? I’ve chosen popular tv shows from both countries. APart from style and type of clothes what are the big differences. The good ones wear desi clothes and the bad ones wear western clothes. Eg. Humsafar- Mahira Khan wears the desi clothes but Naveen Waqar wears western clothes. Same in Indian shows. How do we define modesty? By what we see on tv, bollywood, clothes, behaviour etc. How can we generalise indian or pakistani modesty when there are many differences in groups within India and even Pakistan. Are we comparing those of high class/elites with middle class or those of poor background who can’t afford expensive immodest clothing. Which regions are we comparing and what ethnic groups? @Princejall @muqawwee123
A lot of these top Indian shows have Indian Muslim actors/actresses in lead roles. Interesting to note the shows with Rajasthani characters covering their head compared to similar number of female characters in Pakistani dramas and non-Rajasthani Indian tv shows**. This shows even within 1 country there are differences in modesty. **
Next comparison Bollywood item songs with Pakistani Punjabi mujra numbers jk main uss hadd tak nahi jaati.
@TS bhai can tell me difference in modesty between the Pakistani and Indian tv actresses ive posted here.
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In** traditional** Indian culture was showing your legs considered immodest?
I've always found it funny how in Bangladeshi culture showing legs is considered worse than a bare tummy..
Re: Indian Modesty is different from Pakistani modesty
In** traditional** Indian culture was showing your legs considered immodest?
I've always found it funny how in Bangladeshi culture showing legs is considered worse than a bare tummy..
lehnga is widely popular in Indian villages (specially in Rajasthan) and in cities [kinda skirt that reaches mid calf]. it's not considered immodest by Indian Standards but since Islam doesn't allow this type of clothing so i'm sure it's not worn in most parts of Pakistan. wearing a skirt or lehnga in Pakistan would erroneously imply that the girls somehow is an ultra modern and hence has a loose character. it's sad thinking on the part of men.
Re: Indian Modesty is different from Pakistani modesty
lehnga is widely popular in Indian villages (specially in Rajasthan) and in cities [kinda skirt that reaches mid calf]. it's not considered immodest by Indian Standards but since Islam doesn't allow this type of clothing so i'm sure it's not worn in most parts of Pakistan. wearing a skirt or lehnga in Pakistan would erroneously imply that the girls somehow is an ultra modern and hence has a loose character. it's sad thinking on the part of men.
Some lehngas reach longer than that. I've worn lehngas that go further than that and that is also available. Maybe Deeba knows more but i think Pakistani females do wear lehnga.
Sari can be modest as well if it is wrapped the right way.
Re: Indian Modesty is different from Pakistani modesty
In** traditional** Indian culture was showing your legs considered immodest?
I've always found it funny how in Bangladeshi culture showing legs is considered worse than a bare tummy..
traditional indian culture has gone through conservative and modern twists throughout history. In some tribes showing legs is not big deal but in most of India now and in traditional conservative cultures showing legs is more immodest i think. I think with tummy you can strategically cover it with a sari or it can be transparent.
I've not seen many older generation women showing tummy but there are some younger ones who do. Then again not everyone is brave that way.
Re: Indian Modesty is different from Pakistani modesty
Some lehngas reach longer than that. I've worn lehngas that go further than that and that is also available. Maybe Deeba knows more but i think Pakistani females do wear lehnga.
Sari can be modest as well if it is wrapped the right way.
most lehngas in rural India is not ankle long but is mid-calf long.
i doubt lehnga is worn in Pakistan...
saaRii can be a modest dress only if the blouse is not short, sleeveless or doesn't have deep necks or back whic can show the skin.
also, saaRii, like skirts, is NOT a good choice on a windy day! :D
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Not good choice in hot weather either but it can be modest if chosen that way. Sari worn in serials is mostly modest.
I think Salwar kameez is worn more in Pakistan but lehnga might be worn for special occasions.
I’ve not lived in a rural area but if that’s true then lehngas are longer in urban areas. Never seen a calf length lehnga. http://www.peachesandblush.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/lehenga.jpg
Re: Indian Modesty is different from Pakistani modesty
haan but bollywood has all type of movies. SHe chose to work in an emran hashmi movie. Also clothes worn in premiere doesn’t mean same clothes as movie just like clothes worn in ARY or HUMtv awards show is not same as clothes worn in Pakistani dramas.
Re: Indian Modesty is different from Pakistani modesty
Bollywood does not equal all of India just like lollywood and Pakistani Punjabi films do not equal all of Pakistan. There’s a whole big India out there that does not even watch bollywood or item numbers. Indian dramas have modest dressing and no item numbers. There are plenty of indians who don’t like it. Sometimes when they get offended they sue the actor/director if it hurts sentiments.Nothing happens. WHat people do is now they don’t make fuss they just don’t watch what they’re not going to like. Live and let live is the motto. Bollywood gives employment to lot of people. SOme people find the song tune catchy catchy even if they might not like the way song is shown.
Re: Indian Modesty is different from Pakistani modesty
why did this thread about lollywood and bollywood?
kyun ki lagta hai india aur pakistan mein bollywood/lollywood ke ilava kuch nahi hai
bollywood modesty vs lollywood modesty
Re: Indian Modesty is different from Pakistani modesty
That is story. I am talking about physical nangapan.
Story mein racy scenes means they have that physical aspect. At least Indian tv shows mein aise racy scenes nahi hote..they are more family friendly.. but they are still mocked. Maybe for good reasons who knows but they still have family values. If the turkish serial was popular because of such story and scenes then it means people like watching such scenes. Turkish serials have bikini scenes which is also nangapan.
hollywood movies bhi popular hoti hain. Thodi der mein Turkish serials will screen in India. Let's see how popular they become.
Also for indian perspective better to ask the Kaur who is settled in India and lived in India only then asking someone settled abroad for many years.
I've found most Indian viewers have given positive comments about Pakistani dramas. If some say they are tame then they are probably saying for fact that in some dramas husband and wife don't share a hug in whole serial. But brothers-sisters n serials, who are also real life ajnabees, do. It's an ajeeb world where murders can be shown realistically, stealing, lying and gossiping can be shown but a single hug is seen as big deal.
Not talking of more but just a hug which shows affection and is realistic. Indian serials don't have racy scenes or kiss scenes like Turkish serials.
Re: Indian Modesty is different from Pakistani modesty
Not really. Mallika Sherawat’s father also disowned her for going into showbiz. Before she even became famous or did a single movie he disowned her. Even if she has become famous and popular, acted in Hollywood, or been on Cannes jury. They still havent started contact.
Has Veena’s father stopped contact and was it because of her doing that photo shoot for magazine or for acting in films? Was it before Big Boss that she got disowned? Have Meera’s parents disowned her? Have Mona Lisa’s parents disowned her? He did it personally and before she became famous.
You might think your closer to Arabs but seems like not all Arabs share that sentiment or they wouldn’t have banned Pakistani women marrying Arab men. They would also treat Pakistani workers better in UAE. Note how Indian women are not banned from marrying Saudis but Pakistani women are. Does that mean India is closer to Saudi Arabia? No, it doesn’t.
Compare that to the respect that Shoaib Malik enjoys as guest on Indian tv shows. Already desi men are banned from marrying Arabs. Kind of like how China recently showed their anti-religion/Muslim feelings.
Pakistan doesn’t have same laws as Arab countries. People of any nationality can marry Pakistanis and Pakistani women are allowed to drive.
There are differences in modesty depending on section of society and level of conservatism/liberalism. India is a secular society but all religions have their religious laws.
My father disowned me and I became Mallika Sherawat