^ Good question
Since when does Pakistan only consist of Punjabis and Sindhis? What Pakistan do you come from? Are you sure you're on the right side of Kashmir?
I really can't be asked to go into detail about this but i'll try keep it brief.
Punjabi and Sindhi are the only ones who have things in common with Indians i.e language/culturally/wedding customs/food. They love referring to each other as desi people hence making it seem to outsiders that all Pakistani group are similar to Indians when we all know this is not the case.
Neelam Valley is in Pakistan and my family have always resided there. I've lived here in the U.K and its always Punjabi/Sindhi connecting us with Indians when we are so different and it bugs the hell out of me. From my experience Punjabi/Sindhi culture are extremely liberal when you compare them to the rest of Pak. Where i live Pakistani punjabi and sindhi would marry within Indians and still be accepted within their respective communities whereas the rest would get disowned when marrying within Indians.
Apart from Punjabi and Sindhi in U.K we have Pashtun, small amount of Kashmiris and a large Mirpuri community. The three latter ones marry heavily within their own sub groups and marrying an Indian would either lead to honour killings or disowning of the guy/girl involved from her family regardless of religion. Thankfully for me and my family who reside in B'ham we live with a large Mirpuri community who hardly get on with Indians and would definetely never think about marrying within Indians and so these rubs onto the rest of the Pakistani community who wouldn't dare take Indian as partners in a relationship.
Unfortunately thou the case of my Pakistani punjabi friends is different as many have Hindu/ Sikh friends and go to their 'Desi' functions which will lead to them hanging out with a Indian boys/girls with a view of even marrying them and i've seen around five cases where they have been happily accepted into the Pakistani punjabi/sindhi family which would never happen with other communties from PAK.
I just can't comprehend how a Pakistani could consider a Indian girl/guy over a Pakistani when i believe we are better looking, more modest, polite and generally both Pakistani men n women get along very well with each other. If your a coconut and do marry out of your race, just make sure its not INDIANS.
I really can't be asked to go into detail about this but i'll try keep it brief.
Punjabi and Sindhi are the only ones who have things in common with Indians i.e language/culturally/wedding customs/food. They love referring to each other as desi people hence making it seem to outsiders that all Pakistani group are similar to Indians when we all know this is not the case.
Neelam Valley is in Pakistan and my family have always resided there. I've lived here in the U.K and its always Punjabi/Sindhi connecting us with Indians when we are so different and it bugs the hell out of me. From my experience Punjabi/Sindhi culture are extremely liberal when you compare them to the rest of Pak. Where i live Pakistani punjabi and sindhi would marry within Indians and still be accepted within their respective communities whereas the rest would get disowned when marrying within Indians.
Apart from Punjabi and Sindhi in U.K we have Pashtun, small amount of Kashmiris and a large Mirpuri community. The three latter ones marry heavily within their own sub groups and marrying an Indian would either lead to honour killings or disowning of the guy/girl involved from her family regardless of religion. Thankfully for me and my family who reside in B'ham we live with a large Mirpuri community who hardly get on with Indians and would definetely never think about marrying within Indians and so these rubs onto the rest of the Pakistani community who wouldn't dare take Indian as partners in a relationship.
Unfortunately thou the case of my Pakistani punjabi friends is different as many have Hindu/ Sikh friends and go to their 'Desi' functions which will lead to them hanging out with a Indian boys/girls with a view of even marrying them and i've seen around five cases where they have been happily accepted into the Pakistani punjabi/sindhi family which would never happen with other communties from PAK.
I just can't comprehend how a Pakistani could consider a Indian girl/guy over a Pakistani when i believe we are better looking, more modest, polite and generally both Pakistani men n women get along very well with each other. If your a coconut and do marry out of your race, just make sure its not INDIANS.
Wow, the most ignorant post I've read on here in a long-time. Oh and yes, I am one of those 'coconuts' who is marrying out of her race (there are plenty of others as well on here lol)
Only backward uneducated families tend to have that mentality of 'only marry within your own' nowadays. I'm from London and **about 50% of the weddings we go to are mixed marriages. **Only an insecure person with a chip on his shoulder would come out with this rubbish. I guess really I should feel pity..
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I know couple of Indian girl / Paki guys who married here and in UK. They do not seem to have any problems. They are happy with kids.
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I'm actually surprised that Indian/Pak marriages are still considered an issue when over here in the UK we have much much more interesting and different mixes, one of my best friends is Egyptian/Malaysian, we went to a Bengali/Turkish wedding not long ago and I'll be marrying an English lad next yr. To make out that things like different foods, 'ways of thinking'etc are a big deal gives the impression that a person must be extremely intolerant and close-minded, I mean is it such a big deal to eat or cook a different style of food half the week or try wearing clothes from a different culture now and again??
Mixed marriages are getting so common but we don't see many desi girls or boys marrying black Muslims, InshAllah in the next 10/15yrs tho attitudes will change even further and we will see more of these as well.. One of my Kashmiri friends is interested in a half-Somali lad tho so fingers crossed there might be a wedding there as well :)
Wow, the most ignorant post I've read on here in a long-time. Oh and yes, I am one of those 'coconuts' who is marrying out of her race (there are plenty of others as well on here lol)
Only backward uneducated families tend to have that mentality of 'only marry within your own' nowadays. I'm from London and **about 50% of the weddings we go to are mixed marriages. **Only an insecure person with a chip on his shoulder would come out with this rubbish. I guess really I should feel pity..
Yeah and your probably Punjabi/Sindhi considering your from London where most Pakistani are passive and generally completely lost in my opinion. Pakstanis in UK are represented mainly by Birmingham and Bradford which mainly consist of MPz.
Yeah thats why we come from a famly that have all been in Birmingham Grammar schools and gone to a redbrick uni to study med or dent. My family may marry outside but it only in Mirpuri or Pashtun that they are truely accepted in our family because kids don't become lost and value their religion and culture alot more.
Just because we have been born in the U.K doesn't mean we lose our culture and heritage but then again according to 'some people' that make us insecure or narrow minded as we should progress and be modern, in searching for this 'modernity' we should have BFs/GFs, mix with different genders loosely and wear loose tops/tight bottoms.
Kashmiri and Somalian LOOOL . He probably isn't koshur in the first place and second of all if hes Mirpuri then god help him/her as that marriage would be of the cards as soon as the Father/brother/Mothers finds out as they have a really strong culture too. Here in B'ham a Somalian tried chatting up a Mirpuri girl as soon as the Brothers found out they went 'Alum Rock' on the Somalian and he was pretty much F'd up, so much for your B/S. I hate speaking for the Mirpuri or Pashtun people but from my experience their culture is way too strong and may Allah bless them because of Pakistani like them i feel proud to call myself Pakistani. Even at Uni(B'ham) i've had a couple of white friends telling me they admired how strong the Pakistani culture is and how they stick together and help each other out.
Your marrying a white lad LOL!! Yeah you surely are a coconut im sure most Pakistani here (GS) and in the U.K along with the millions of brothers/aunties would say the same although they wouldn't type it here or say it to your face because they can't be asked to hurt someones feeling by saying the truth. I don't come on the forums to be a troll or just to annoy people i just say what i really feel and i know for a fact in B'ham marrying outside Pakistani community is completely shunned upon if you belong to Kashmiri, Mirpuri n Pashtun.
You can call me a 'coconut' or whatever I really couldn't care less, all that matters to me is what my parents think and they've given me their blessing. I'll admit my brother has a problem with me marrying a white lad but whenever he makes some nasty comment my Dad just tells him to shut up. And no, my community hasn't shunned me either, like I said about half the weddings we go to now are mixed marriages anyway (more often the girls marrying non-desis tho) and in my own family it's become common as well (my cousin was the first to 'marry out' to an English man and that was 20 or so yrs ago when it really was a scandal), we're mixed with Bengalis, Swedish, quite a few other nationalities.. My Kashmiri mate is female and the lad is half-Somali, half-white, his Mum was Christian, reverted yrs ago and now wears proper hijab (ie not see thru dupatta like a lot of Pak Mums wear) and is much more practising than most desis I know. Am quite surprised that ppl like u still take the race thing so seriously when it's obvious that in 20yrs or so bigger cities are prob just going to end up like big melting pots anyway..
Oh, and regarding ur comment about GS members thinking badly of me for being engaged to a white bloke but not wanting to type it u need to check out more threads and members and see just how many of them have done the same, I'm not going to embarrass them here by naming them but I can think of about half a dozen names who post regularly (including a mod) just off the top of my head.. I think u'll find that views like urs are actually in the minority (there is another poster that thinks like u tho, I think his name was 'marwati' or something in the culture thread, u might wana check that out)..
You can call me a 'coconut' or whatever I really couldn't care less, all that matters to me is what my parents think and they've given me their blessing. I'll admit my brother has a problem with me marrying a white lad but whenever he makes some nasty comment my Dad just tells him to shut up. And no, my community hasn't shunned me either, like I said about half the weddings we go to now are mixed marriages anyway (more often the girls marrying non-desis tho) and in my own family it's become common as well (my cousin was the first to 'marry out' to an English man and that was 20 or so yrs ago when it really was a scandal), we're mixed with Bengalis, Swedish, quite a few other nationalities.. My Kashmiri mate is female and the lad is half-Somali, half-white, his Mum was Christian, reverted yrs ago and now wears proper hijab (ie not see thru dupatta like a lot of Pak Mums wear) and is much more practising than most desis I know. Am quite surprised that ppl like u still take the race thing so seriously when it's obvious that in 20yrs or so bigger cities are prob just going to end up like big melting pots anyway..
Oh, and regarding ur comment about GS members thinking badly of me for being engaged to a white bloke but not wanting to type it u need to check out more threads and members and see just how many of them have done the same, I'm not going to embarrass them here by naming them but I can think of about half a dozen names who post regularly (including a mod) just off the top of my head.. I think u'll find that views like urs are actually in the minority (there is another poster that thinks like u tho, I think his name was 'marwati' or something in the culture thread, u might wana check that out)..
Your family is nothing like typical Pakistani family in Birmingham and if i was relaxing with your brother with a family history like yours im sure someone would tell me to stay away, no offence you lot are lost.
Yeah i can tell your Punjabi/Sindhi especially if your parents accepted a white lad LOOL But hey good going you can safely say your a 'modern' pakistani now and all us pakistani who don't do the inter-racial crap are 'narrow minded' and 'backwards'.
As i said before Pakistani in U.k are represented by Bradford n Birmingham and due to MPz + Pashtun there i can safely say there will be no melting pot in 20 years as both have an extremely strong culture but you can keep dreaming we all turn out lost, like you. Word of advice keep your half-cast kids in London because im not joking when i say in B'ham they would get totally abused..
Your really ethnically ignorant if you think your friends kashmiri, when she wears Dupatta which is hindu culture which koshurs have nothing in common with. Seriously as a kashmiri i can't tell you a girl bringing white or black and a non-Pakistani will lead to being disowned by the family aswell as bringing shame on our family izzat.
Are all those GS member located in U.K? I genuinally doubt it and marrying into white brits is a rarity here in B'ham and god knows the amount of crap the couples will have to face From Mother/Fathers/Aunties/kids.
I've seen Marwati post and i thoroughly enjoy reading them, hes a proud Pashtun who values his culture and its people like him that make me proud to be Pakistani.
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Isn’t Shamus an Irish name? 
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PSquared said it best, it is as simple or complicated as you make it. Look at our own example here with TLK and NikSik, so THICK is the bliss and barkat in their house that you can drizzle it over pancakes and eat it.
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Wow, shamus sounds like he's got too many issues, what is it bro, one too many non desi women say "no thanks" to you? You racist, ignorant jackass.
My cousin is called Shamus so i doubt it but whether it is or not, im pure Kashmiri and have nothing in common with the Irish apart from there love for football 
First ease off with the ‘desi’ term Indian are not my people and i share nothing in common with them and definitely would never seek a spouse within that race. First off i don’t do the dating/clubbing business im not a ‘modern’ pakistani, sorry to dissapoint you there but i value my religion and culture highly.
Bro no need to swear to a fellow Pakistani, inshallah you get a warning for your cursing 
Im sorry im not a chick magnet like you bro but im sure you can discuss thing with Deeba as she seems to be quite similar to yourself.
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i think the only potential issues are with the immediate family, their reaction and reservations. so tackling parents/siblings is the real hurdle since you wouldn't want to sour your relationship with them over this, that might take a lot of effort/time/patience for some. so ya that's the only complication otherwise its all good for the couple, travelling between the two countries will be a pain so should settle down in a neutral place to avoid immigration/travelling issues.
Your family is nothing like typical Pakistani family in Birmingham and if i was relaxing with your brother with a family history like yours im sure someone would tell me to stay away, no offence you lot are lost.
Yeah i can tell your Punjabi/Sindhi especially if your parents accepted a white lad LOOL But hey good going you can safely say your a 'modern' pakistani now and all us pakistani who don't do the inter-racial crap are 'narrow minded' and 'backwards'.
As i said before Pakistani in U.k are represented by Bradford n Birmingham and due to MPz + Pashtun there i can safely say there will be no melting pot in 20 years as both have an extremely strong culture but you can keep dreaming we all turn out lost, like you. Word of advice keep your half-cast kids in London because im not joking when i say in B'ham they would get totally abused..
Your really ethnically ignorant if you think your friends kashmiri, when she wears Dupatta which is hindu culture which koshurs have nothing in common with. Seriously as a kashmiri i can't tell you a girl bringing white or black and a non-Pakistani will lead to being disowned by the family aswell as bringing shame on our family izzat.
Are all those GS member located in U.K? I genuinally doubt it and marrying into white brits is a rarity here in B'ham and god knows the amount of crap the couples will have to face From Mother/Fathers/Aunties/kids.
I've seen Marwati post and i thoroughly enjoy reading them, hes a proud Pashtun who values his culture and its people like him that make me proud to be Pakistani.
If u read my post properly u would have noticed that I didn't say my Kashmiri mate wears dupatta (she doesn't even wear hijab), I said the mixed-race Somali lad's Mum wears proper hijab, not see thru dupatta like Pak mums. Kashmiri mate's family are v.religious but not that culturally minded hence they'd allow all their kids to marry whoever they wanted as long as they're Muslim. Before u start calling them names they are amongt the most decent ppl I've ever met, they have adopted disabled kids and brought them up as their own and unlike most desis are v.close friends with black and other muslims at our local mosque (hence my mate becoming friends with the half-Somali lad).
Yeah, the GS mod who 'married out' is from London, she posts on here everyday and has mentioned her hubby's ethnicity quite a few times, am not gonna mention her by name tho to drag her into this but am sure u could work it out for urself.. For the others u can see in the Bridal Thread, or u can continue to live in ur little bubble believing the race can/should stay 'pure.'
Wow, shamus sounds like he's got too many issues, what is it bro, one too many non desi women say "no thanks" to you? You racist, ignorant jackass.
Probably. People who tend to hold such extreme views do tend have 'issues'
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Wow!! I just got dejavu.... a pashtun acquaintance of mine used to say the same things, but rather than camoflauge it under the garb of religion he used to openly say I'm a Pashtun first and a Muslim second.... this Shamus guy seems the same way to me.
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^ are you sure abt that? I thought they maintain Muslim, Pashtun, Pakistani in that order.
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Yep, I'm sure... he used to say that he gives preference to cultural practices over Islam. For example, honor killings, forced marriage, etc. That guy was scary :(
I really can't be asked to go into detail about this but i'll try keep it brief.
Punjabi and Sindhi are the only ones who have things in common with Indians i.e language/culturally/wedding customs/food. They love referring to each other as desi people hence making it seem to outsiders that all Pakistani group are similar to Indians when we all know this is not the case.
Neelam Valley is in Pakistan and my family have always resided there. I've lived here in the U.K and its always Punjabi/Sindhi connecting us with Indians when we are so different and it bugs the hell out of me. From my experience Punjabi/Sindhi culture are extremely liberal when you compare them to the rest of Pak. Where i live Pakistani punjabi and sindhi would marry within Indians and still be accepted within their respective communities whereas the rest would get disowned when marrying within Indians.
Apart from Punjabi and Sindhi in U.K we have Pashtun, small amount of Kashmiris and a large Mirpuri community. The three latter ones marry heavily within their own sub groups and marrying an Indian would either lead to honour killings or disowning of the guy/girl involved from her family regardless of religion. Thankfully for me and my family who reside in B'ham we live with a large Mirpuri community who hardly get on with Indians and would definetely never think about marrying within Indians and so these rubs onto the rest of the Pakistani community who wouldn't dare take Indian as partners in a relationship.
Unfortunately thou the case of my Pakistani punjabi friends is different as many have Hindu/ Sikh friends and go to their 'Desi' functions which will lead to them hanging out with a Indian boys/girls with a view of even marrying them and i've seen around five cases where they have been happily accepted into the Pakistani punjabi/sindhi family which would never happen with other communties from PAK.
I just can't comprehend how a Pakistani could consider a Indian girl/guy over a Pakistani when i believe we are better looking, more modest, polite and generally both Pakistani men n women get along very well with each other. If your a coconut and do marry out of your race, just make sure its not INDIANS.
Sigh, I stopped reading after the first few sentences. It's obvious that you are extremely obsessed with only your culture and have no religious or moral views whatsoever. Sadness to the maximus. Thank goodness that the Pakistanis that I know don't think like you do (must be that Kashmiri in you). =/
Must have been brainwashed as a child huh? We all should be reuniting and conversating with our similarities as well as differences but all you can focus on is your condescending views . Good luck in life with that type of racist/derogatory mindset.
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Im going to say just a few things here and then be done with this Indian vs Pakistani debate.
Anyone who is intolerant of another race, religion or ethnicity is - in my very humble opinion - not worthy of being called a Pakistani or part of any other culture/country. This may seem like a harsh thing to say but its people like Shamus who make Pakistanis look like uneducated and primitive fools in the real world. I dont know many people who are like that but the ones who are dont get a second glance from me. Its like talking to a slave owner from an era long gone, thank God. I find them unworthy of recognition...a waste of perfectly good breathing space.
That being said, Indians and Pakistanis can and should marry each other if there is love and Allah swt wills it. Allah swt does NOT recognize India, Pakistan, Pashtuns, Sindhis or Punjabis...He simply recognizes a Muslim. He/She can be a converted Muslim, a Somalian Muslim, a Bengali, an Arab or a Puerto Rican Muslim. These divides of so-called culture will not come to your rescue when you are on your death bed. Your quomi tarana will not pave your way into Heaven and the Pakistani/Indian flag will not carry you across Siratul-Mustaqeem.
Indians/Pakistanis/Whites/Bengalis/ETC will marry and keep marrying each othern -Inshallah - and I think its great.