India left in the cold over Afghanistan

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I am surprised none of you paid attention to this very interesting development. Like a pheonix from the ashes Pakistan’s view on Afghanistan is once again of paramount importance.

‘US-Europe ignoring India’s role in Afghanistan to appease Pak’ - Express India](http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/--US-Europe-ignoring-India--s-role-in-Afghanistan-to-appease-Pak--/577501/)

AFGHANISTAN: World rejects India’s Taliban stand | Pakistan Daily

The original Article from FP:
Indian Motion | Foreign Policy

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Re: India left in the cold over Afghanistan

I am surprised if Indians didn't see it coming.. it was their since day one, the only bet India had was his Fazlullah in Swat and Barhamdagh Bugti in Balochistan.. i guess both of them have failed to deliver and now India is looking forward to say good bye to the Billions of Dollars it spend in Afghanistan...

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The indians are suffering for the past one year or so...first their paid tamils were beaten by srilankans...then their sponsored taleban were beaten in swat and south waziristan (there's an interview by indian army chief regarding waziristan operation in which he said that he had some reservations about the operation)...after that they have been sidelined from afghanistan, and rightly so...and so now we have the talks between pakistan and india... :s

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See how theory of relativity works :)

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Good.

So Paks can put to bed all those constipated conspiracy theories about CIA+RAW trying to damage our country.

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Please explain to me how Hindu India managed to make an Islamic Militant like Fazlullah its patron?

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more like a excerpt from Molana Munawar Hussain (Dozakh waley) speech

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Why weapons of India are being confiscated from the taleban? would you care to elaborate?

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First time I have heard of this. Which weapons exactly?

Do they have a Made in India stamp on them?

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Re: India left in the cold over Afghanistan

Do a search. Mad Scientist did a brilliant analysis of a few news articles a few months back when the Waziristan Operation started. You even responded to the thread I believe.

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brilliant, wow, you do have a very low standard.

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Pakistan Is Said to Pursue Role in Afghan Talks With U.S. - NYTimes.com

An article from the NY Times highlighting how Pakistan’s role and point of view is gaining ground in the US armed forces and other top leadership.

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His analysis was about Artillery Shells and saying that certain shells were mislabeled. Those shells could have been stolen from countless areas.

So is that all the evidence you have about India's involvement?

Aren't there any intercepted communications by RAW agents directing attacks?

Aren't there any weapons that can be traced back to India just like what USA found in Iraqi Insurgents being supplied by Iran?

Is there any documents that link India, either financially, economically and military to these types of activities?

I mean a bunch of mislabeled shells is that the proof of Indian involvement?

And what about these trucks filled with ammo coming from Afghanistan that Zaid Hamid keeps barking about?

I have yet to see a picture of these trucks or its contents laid out in front of the cameras.

And these Indian consulates. Why hasn't the ISI intercepted any communication from these consulates which shows proof of RAW involvement?

Aren't there any captured Taliban militants which can tell of how they were directed by RAW?

Is RAW really that good that they can turn Western Pakistan into a virtual war zone and ISI really that inept that they have failed utterly to prevent such things?

And why isn't USA pressuring India to stop this. Doesn't the United States lose if Pakistan falls apart?

And why would India's Taliban allies keep attacking its embassies in Afghanistan?

Did India bomb its own embassy killing over 100 people and blame that on Taliban?

If RAW is behind Pakistani Taliban, that means that those 9 CIA agents were killed by that Jordanian double agent was acting on the behest of RAW?

So why does India want to target CIA agents in Afghanistan?

If India controls the Taliban, then why doesn't USA ask India to give up Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda?

Is Osama bin Laden now a RAW and Zionist and CIA agent?

Is RAW responsible for 9/11?

This conspiracy nonsense makes ZERO sense and falls apart when probed with questions. And anyone stupid enough to believe it needs to be send to the mental asylum.

Blaming India for a problem Pakistan created internally is not doing Pakistan any favors.

Every single day India leaps ahead of Pakistan in almost every field while Pakistan everyday resembles Iraq and Somalia.

And instead of coming up with a united solution on how to tackle this problem, we blame this boogey man (India/Israel/RAW/Mossad/Jews/Zionists/USA/BlackWater etc....) for all the problems in Pakistan.

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LMAO! You won't see the truth or accept it even if it bite you in the ass. Even if this evidence was placed infront of you you would say it was faked.

Nothing is worse than a self-hating Paki.

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I could not agree more with you CM. Many Pakistanis have (unfortunatly) inferiority complex and they mistrust anything comming from Pakistanis source.

Its indeed true that Pakistan did push hard so that the role of India is minimized in AFghanistan.
Pakistanis leaders this time showed guts in conveying the message to the West that if they do not listen to Pakistan concerning evil intentions of India in Afghanistan then things will get worse and they should forget it that Pakistan will put in danger its borders to secure the West.

The Balance of Science and Religion
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Well it will help you if you would pay attention on Pakistani media rather then following Indian media ;)

The Balance of Science and Religion
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Mercs analysis is pretty spot on.

On the Afghanistan point, we need to take this out of the hand of the ISI. Afghanistan is multi ethnic, the majority is Farsi speaking, and Pakistan needs to build its bridges with them. They have been alienated by our support of the Pashtuns, and India has taken advantage.

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CM, thats so lame. If someone believes in an tolerant middle of the road Pakistan, you guys call them self-hating. Merc and Firenze are just as patriotic as any other Paki on the forum.

If Pak succeeded on telling the Yanks about there perception in Afghanistan, then thats good. We have our interests there, and they need to be protected.

If anyone actually believes that the Indians are behind the Taliban, then they need a quick appointment with a good psychiatrist. The Indians support the Baluch insurgency, thats a fact. And they were responsible for the dismemberment of the country, so they have done plenty of wrong to us. But these Salafist Taliban are home grown, and thrive on the fact that there are people in the Pakistan security establishment, who support them. Plenty of ex-ISI (General Gul) officers have had very close links with Fazullah. The Swat Taliban is definetely the creation of the ISI, and goes back to the early 90s, when the sponsored Sufi Mohammed. This monster was created to weaken the ANP in the Yousafzai (Swat, Dir, Malakand etc). The weoponary is also been supplied by the ISI. So lets no compare oranges with apples.

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Doubtful on any reconciliation with Dari speakers. Pakistan needs to look out for it's best interests which is supporting the majority Pakhtun population in Afghanistan.

Some time back people were talking about crushing the Taliban, where are those people now? I have always argued for reconciliation with the moderate elements and moving forward. The US is looking to exit the region, guess who will be back? :D

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Its obvious.

You are too much of a coward to respond to my questions and yet post this nonsensical blanket statement filled with childish swear words as if you think posting something like that gives your argument any validity.