India admits to break up of Pakistan

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I am not surprised at all why this news is not even mentioned here. Surprise that Yawn is also so quiet on this. Actually, I’m not surprised, at all.

Modi clearly admits to the role India had played in breaking Pakistan, but pseudo intellectuals also known as self proclaimed liberals all those years kept badmouthing a certain ethnic group and the national institution. Shame on them! Their charade is busted.

So much of needless and excessive self pitying along with obsessive, over the top and mostly showy auto critiquing robbed Pakistanis the chance to defend their case with confidence. Some people’s efforts to make themselves feel and look like scums of the earth is disgusting. Do they have any self respect at all?

Now that India has openly admitted to conspiring to break up Pakistan in 1971, I hope the libtards shut up with their propaganda that their Baharat Mahan can never exploit your fault lines in Balochistan and FATA. If only there is an easy way of dealing with Indian pigeons in Pakistan!

Gen. Raheel Sharif is the only man in Pakistan who knows how to talk in the language that India understands. He’s done a great job at boosting nation’s morale, and it’s heartening to see young Pakistanis backing their army with full fervour. The PM is always week late with his ‘reaction’.

In the meantime, glad that Gilgit Baltistan banned Geo! Nawaz Sharif can continue sending more saris to Modi, this time though, he should attach some bangles as well.

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And you believe in this mass killer of Muslims. Can someone ask him why it could not break Pakistan in 1965 war???. They, including himself $h!tting in their dhotis when one hero of 1965 war Mohammad Mehmood Alam, in one mission on 7 September 1965, he downed five Indian aircraft in less than a minute, the first four within 30 seconds, establishing a world record, with total of nine aircraft downed in the war.

Pakistan army has to share major responsibility for break up in 1971, not this piss drinker as he claimed.

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After 1971… Zulfiqar took milk bath… :hmmm:

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No, he did not. When Pakistan army lost war in 1971 and breakup of country, the morals were so low and first time in Punjab people came out against its own army, the generals then have no choice to hand over power to ZAB.

Mehdi Hasan then sang this song

suno meri behno, suno meri map
na shikwa karo na gila karo

That song you find no where…And perhaps deleted from the archive by the army.

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Meanwhile, Hyde Park held yet another pro Khalistan protest in remembrance of 1984 Sikh Massacre. Last week, India's North Eastern states saw attacks on their army and state forces. So India should be very careful of just how much terrorism it can sponsor in Pakistan. With it's own lingual-ethnic vulnerable divides, Pakistan is also capable of wrecking absolute havoc there, if they don't stop with their dirty games. India's blatant admission of sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan is effectively uniting the country which can only be a good thing.

he last one and half decade of fighting against Taliban and proxies has made Pakistan army and intelligence a very potent force. The experience they now have under their belt is invaluable.

The whole of Arab world, 'friendly enemies' like Iran, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and eternal enemies like must watch, learn and get the message!

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Sir G... ZAB and Yahya Khan never called National Assembly ... They knew that Shaik Mujeeb would be legitimate PM of Pakistan.

Because you bring 1971 breakup issue, ZAB was one of the important character who was also responsible.

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It has been discussed many times. ZAB was not in power then. Yahya was. But he was always drunk and always thought of defending Pakistan from his balls. :D

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You can not use same strategies in India. India is doing cold war. Pakistan used to expert in that, now those days has gone. Pakistan should concentrate within itself.

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Cold war was essentially a big extended proxy war - between two super powers - all over the world!

India is also using proxy warfare to sponsor terrorism in Pakistan since they cannot dare launch a conventional military attack on Pakistan. Pakistan don't need to do anything. It is India that needs to be weary of its own misfortunes and learn a thing or two by Pakistan. They snakes they are feeding can very well bite them too.

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There never is one single reason for any catastrophe. While Indian intervention was one of the reason there are many like our corrupt politicians, wrong handling of East Pakistan issue, corrupt army etc etc

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Did Pakistan learn anything from breakup?

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probably not coz we are making same mistakes again but thats another discussion

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^ Nope. Libtards would never admit that problematic 'sham' democracy has been one of the major reasons behind most civil unrests in Pakistan. From the Fatimah Jinnah's grief to Mujib's agony to recent Imran Khan's frustration. All episodes hold the common theme of the denial of electoral justice, and all three episodes divided the nation.

Imagine if there weren't any power hungry psychopaths who blocked Mujib from becoming the PM, and his 6 Points agenda was accepted - which was a very reasonable demand all together.

But then again, it is so convenient to always ignore and downplay your arch enemy's full role in taking things to the next level, and just defame Pakistan army and spew racist crap against Punjabis.

I do admire and appreciate Indians for uniting and becoming a one voice against their external enemies. I've rarely seen Indians in a group defending and downplaying Pakistan.

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Yes Pakistan army has to take the blame for supporting someone like ZAB instead of reaching out to Mujib!

Really, whatever happened to Mujib and ZAB later in their life was their karma. They both died disgraceful death.

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Did they ever deny it? Probably only in Najam Sethi's book.

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How sweet to call someone’s death as disgraceful.. Wuts the criterio btw? Anybody who dies by the bullet or anybody who got hanged, I assume, and what else? Can we call all unnatural deaths as disgraceful then?? :hmmm:

And can we guarantee that our own will be “graceful”? Just asking :chai:

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good balanced post. we Pakistanis suffered in 71 as our country was split into 2 and we had an embarrassing defeat...so it is our national responsibility to do honest introspection as to why it happened. India, Pak army's senior leadership, politicians in east and west pakistan, bureaucratic establishment, east pakistan militant groups, west pakistan militant groups (badar etc), media, all had a role in this catastrophic event. Right from 1947, series of events happened which separated east and west Pakistan from each other and caused more and more mistrust.

It is not as simple as "India did it, so lets forget everyone else and start glorifying culprits on our side". huh...this is a new trend these days. Anyone who points out anything wrong in our army is labelled as unpatriotic ghadaar. People should not fall for this type of bullish behavior. I dont know what is the definition of liberal but none of us here on this forum belong to any NGO who takes funds from the West or Bharat.

We all love our country and we have every right to express our opinion on anything in a civilized manner. We all love, admire and respect all the sacrifices of our army jawans and its leadership in every war but it is also a fact that our army leadership chose to rule the country for over 30+ years and they will therefore be criticized for many national events that took place. That is a healthy and a mature attitude. if indians as a group glorify/defend everything related to their foreign policy, that is stupidity and not a healthy attitude.

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pal, were you born yesterday? Pakistan has tried its hands, legs, fingers, toes everything in Khalistan to the North east in the 80s and 90s. This is nothing new, nor is the fact that India helped Mujib and the Awami League. silly neocons..

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What do "Libtards" have to do with any of this ? Are there even any Liberals left in Pakistan ? Considering how much damage "Conservatives" have done to the country, you should welcome some liberal voices.

What is a "liberal" in the context of Pakistan anyway... Someone who acknowledges historical facts and is open to self-reflection as opposed to constantly trying to find external sources to pin the blame?

On the topic of 1971, India couldnt have broken up the country unless it were already broken.

Its not like Pakistanis are the pillars of cooperation and unity. If they treated Bengalis with the same disdain they do each other, then its no wonder there is a Bangladesh today.

India has many flaws and im the last to defend them, but Pakistanis should be glad the Benaglis are free of Pakistan, as there are many im sure in Pakistan itself, ruing the day this country was founded. Just today, there is an article about a village in Chakwal where the Ahmadis are being harrassed by religious bigots. Having the minarets removed from their mosque because they would make it resemble a mosque. Meanwhile, in India Ahmadis are going about their lives unmolested! Shame on Pakistan. This is how Pakistanis treat their fellow Pakistani. And then your surprised when people want to leave the country... Before blaming India, blame yourself.