Knock-out - No I was not there. But Adam & Eve theory cannot explain all the different species of animals,insects & fish. Did God go about making an Adam & Eve for each of the millions of species?
I think the one cell aemeba split to 2 cells etc & evolution theory over millions of years seems to stand to scrutiny. Different species have adapted to their surroundings, and changed to suit their surroundings.
The mountains were made when 2 plates of different continents struck each other. Even today if we look at the land mass we can sometimes see the aparent rips between continents & lands.
yes, we know that mountains exist bcoz of tectonic plates colliding, but the point is the reason of their existence is related in the Quran; to balance the earth.
We placed firmly embedded mountains on the earth, so it would not move under them… (Qur'an, 21:31)
Have We not made the earth as a bed and the mountains its pegs? (Qur'an, 78:6-7)
Also, the movement associated within the mountain strutures/ in between them is expresssed as:
You see the mountains you reckoned to be solid going past like clouds. (Qur'an, 27:88)
pinks - We are talking of Adam & Eve theory as first mentioned in Bible and then a few hundred years later in the Quran.
That was the level of understanding at that stage in life - over the hundreds of years humans understanding has increased. In the next 500 years the understanding will reach such a stage that most of what is written in these books as 'gospel' truth, will be proved false. Noah's ark, miracles by Jesus, awakening of the dead, Shaytan (or Satan in the Bible) etc.
Knock-out - No I was not there. But Adam & Eve theory cannot explain all the different species of animals,insects & fish. Did God go about making an Adam & Eve for each of the millions of species?
I think the one cell aemeba split to 2 cells etc & evolution theory over millions of years seems to stand to scrutiny. Different species have adapted to their surroundings, and changed to suit their surroundings.
The mountains were made when 2 plates of different continents struck each other. Even today if we look at the land mass we can sometimes see the aparent rips between continents & lands.
U are not scholar of quran(neither am i) so you won't know how things were place in quran.
To start, please find out how life actually started on earth.
After you a month when you come back telling me it was a stone(solid clay) from space which carried organic/carbon compound in it ,hit earth and started life .
Then I will tell you that quran says life was started from peace of "CLAY"
pinks - We are talking of Adam & Eve theory as first mentioned in Bible and then a few hundred years later in the Quran.
That was the level of understanding at that stage in life - over the hundreds of years humans understanding has increased. In the next 500 years the understanding will reach such a stage that most of what is written in these books as 'gospel' truth, will be proved false. Noah's ark, miracles by Jesus, awakening of the dead, Shaytan (or Satan in the Bible) etc.
so u r questioning the Adam & Eve theory but u didn't really answer my question.
by the above post, you are saying that the level of understanding of Muhammad SAW was that he had somehow known of orbits, human development, and that the anti-particle of electrons is a positron???? come on, there is no way he "had developed" this understanding, surely, even u will have to admit that 1400 years ago, such knowledge must have been "revealed"... the mathematics and science back then were just not strong enough to know such things.... so if He who "revealed" such knowledge hasn't been contradicted, then He is indeed all knowing, All Truthful.... if u can accept that the knowledge revealed in the quran was from Allah SWT (bcoz there is no way the Prophet SAW couldv'e known of it), then u have to accept that we all began from Adam and Eve bcoz this "theory" is from the same Author as the One who says that salt water and fresh water dont mix.
Nothing in the quran is redundant today, nor will it be in 500 years time...
if Allah SWT can create humans like u and I from something that initially needs a microscope to view, then why cant He raise the dead? u know that the heart beat of an unborn child starts with a single electrical spark (aise jaise koi "jump start" de raha ho), lekin is spark ko kaun instigate kar ta hai?
And i feel you are following these things blindly without any study. I feel thats also blind belief in you. I asked you a simple question please explain me the creation of amino acids and follow it up with proteins.
:D...But according to me...islam will be the first one to go.
Then it will be christianity. then judaism...and then it will be hinduism, then it will be others...
You seem convinced that science will irradicate belief. What makes you so convinced? Do you not realise that your assertion of the future (yr 2507) is a statement of belief?
Or are you trying to assert that rationalism is void of belief?
If you state that “truth can only be known by rational means” then you have made a statement of faith. And the tests you employ to ratify your theories are tests that you put faith in to suggest the meaning you have faith in them for. You have faith in science to deliver your faith in rationalism.
Can you escape faith?
One plus one equals two … how so … because I believe it so. Objectivity in faith is what is important there may be absolute truth out there, but we can only have faith in it, because rationale is but only a tool for us to understand and understanding is a subset of the faculty of faith.
Knowing = having faith with certainty
Trusting = having faith with confidence
Believing = Confirming our convictions
Religion is not faith per se. Your initial assertion is that religions will die out. Then the thread digressed into the faith subject.
In Islam we are told that before the Day of Judgement which is some time in our future people will lose touch with their religion. In fact studies reveal every world religion has gone through a life cycle and ends in a mythological phase. Islam is the only religion that has yet to reach the revival period. After which it too will diminish and be taken away from the people.
So Islam agrees with your statement at least about some time in the future, we cannot say when it will be 100 years, or 500 years, but Islam says that the Day of Judgement and Destruction will only be manifest upon the worst kinds of irreligious people.
So yes … in times to come I trust there will probably be no religion.
There will always be religion because man will always be spiritual. God will always exist. If mankind even survives another 500 years, we cannot fathom what that existence will be like. Suffice to say, man will be spread around the galaxy, if not universe, and everything will be different. There is no way the current practice of religions will resemble anything that will be practiced in the next 500 years. The rituals and culture of ancient history will have not be logical in that future society.
While the practice of some religions may not have changed much in the past 1000 years, the changes and growth in socieity in the next 500 years will be exponentially higher than the changes we've experienced during the previous 1000.