Re: Imran says US talking to Taliban proves that Pak should also do so (Plz do read)
HIS country? Taliban never controlled the whole country. He is an enemy of Afghan people and an enemy of Islam.
according to who? you khoji? americans and anti-afghan people? northern alliance gaddars? yes according to all you.. i have a secret to tell.... nobody cares what you and world thinks. Taliban defended Afghan sovereignty. they did not bend over to get raped by the white man. not only taliban but all god fearing afghans fought. would you defend pakistan when time comes? i know i will. tell me then will they call me enemy of pakistani people and enemy of islam? stop being so naive.
Re: Imran says US talking to Taliban proves that Pak should also do so (Plz do read)
we dont care what afghani want or what they dont. the land is crused.
and we know how to defend our land thats what Pak.Army doing now, if you have any problem with that you are allowed to go afghanistant and fight for your so called sharia, If you are a afghani then they need you over there and if you are a pakistani you are a traitor.
Re: Imran says US talking to Taliban proves that Pak should also do so (Plz do read)
according to who? you khoji? americans and anti-afghan people? northern alliance gaddars? yes according to all you.. i have a secret to tell.... nobody cares what you and world thinks. Taliban defended Afghan sovereignty. they did not bend over to get raped by the white man. not only taliban but all god fearing afghans fought. would you defend pakistan when time comes? i know i will. tell me then will they call me enemy of pakistani people and enemy of islam? stop being so naive.
Pakistan has no option except for Supporting Afghan Taliban or other wise their will be Indian Government in place
Re: Imran says US talking to Taliban proves that Pak should also do so (Plz do read)
Pakistan has no option except for Supporting Afghan Taliban or other wise their will be Indian Government in place
Afghan Taliban are worse enemies of Pakistan than India.
Pakistan has no option but to support present Afghan government and convince them of its sincerity in fight against Taliban.
The double-faced strategy which you are suggesting has resulted in hatred of Afghan people towards Pakistan, and has also resulted in the destruction of Pakistani society.
So advice to all followers of Imran the demagogue. Think before you speak.
Re: Imran says US talking to Taliban proves that Pak should also do so (Plz do read)
If America is not able to defeat Taliban what on earth makes you think Pakistan can?
So if you can't defeat then surrender yourself?
That's exactly what Imran Talibani is suggesting by advising us to negotiate with those khariji mufsideen.
Sure Taliban and extremism can be defeated. Not by force alone. America can do that too. But they are just not willing to spend their resources on Taliban, which is not their direct enemies in the first place. America's enemy is Qaeda ... not Taliban. Taliban is Pakistan's/Afghanistan's enemy.
Re: Imran says US talking to Taliban proves that Pak should also do so (Plz do read)
If America is not able to defeat Taliban what on earth makes you think Pakistan can?
american`s game is not about zombies they are happy if the aera remain unstable so somehow they support them in back doors. the problem is that we dont need that zombies to walk around in our streets, and I bet you one thing the numbers of zombies are counted american may not be but we know how to finish this fitna, even immmi/JI/PMLN keep supporting them.
Re: Imran says US talking to Taliban proves that Pak should also do so (Plz do read)
Sure Taliban and extremism can be defeated. Not by force alone. America can do that too. But they are just not willing to spend their resources on Taliban, which is not their direct enemies in the first place. America's enemy is Qaeda ... not Taliban. Taliban is Pakistan's/Afghanistan's enemy.
who are Americans fighting in Afghanistan? is it AlQaida? How much "resources" has America used in fighting in Afghanistan, is it US$10million? or US $100 million?
Re: Imran says US talking to Taliban proves that Pak should also do so (Plz do read)
who are Americans fighting in Afghanistan? is it AlQaida? How much "resources" has America used in fighting in Afghanistan, is it US$10million? or US $100 million?
Americans are fighting Taliban primarily. Reason is that Taliban refuse to purge foreign fasadis from their midst.
In order to leave Afghanistan, America has to either ensure that Taliban agree to providing sanctuaries to foreign fasadis, or it has to ensure that Taliban threat could be controlled by Afghan govt.
Re: Imran says US talking to Taliban proves that Pak should also do so (Plz do read)
Afghan Taliban are worse enemies of Pakistan than India.
Pakistan has no option but to support present Afghan government and convince them of its sincerity in fight against Taliban.
The double-faced strategy which you are suggesting has resulted in hatred of Afghan people towards Pakistan, and has also resulted in the destruction of Pakistani society.
So advice to all followers of Imran the demagogue. Think before you speak.
Sorry Sir Afghan Taliban have never attacked or supported attacks in Pakistan and if America can't defeat them you will also loose the battle write this on the wall man and sir this corrupt government can't do anything and we will have to support Taliban or other wise we are doomed
Re: Imran says US talking to Taliban proves that Pak should also do so (Plz do read)
So if you can't defeat then surrender yourself?
That's exactly what Imran Talibani is suggesting by advising us to negotiate with those khariji mufsideen.
Sure Taliban and extremism can be defeated. Not by force alone. America can do that too. But they are just not willing to spend their resources on Taliban, which is not their direct enemies in the first place. America's enemy is Qaeda ... not Taliban. Taliban is Pakistan's/Afghanistan's enemy.
Sir Imran Khan is giving you the best solution but if you want to bang your head on the wall no one can stop you go ahead
Sir Imra
Re: Imran says US talking to Taliban proves that Pak should also do so (Plz do read)
Sorry Sir Afghan Taliban have never attacked or supported attacks in Pakistan
Afghan Taliban had training camps established in Afghanistan from where sectarian terrorists were entering Pakistan to systematically kill non-Wahhabis in Pakistan.
Shahbaz Sharif sent a delegation to Taliban govt to try to convince them to stop their support of terrorism in Pakistan.
But Taliban were not attacking Pakistan as today because Pak was actually their primary supporter itself, and secondly they were busy doing their fasad on Afghanistan.
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we will have to support Taliban or other wise we are doomed
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In other words, you are calling for our surrender in front of the anti-Islam mufsideen. That's exactly what Imran says. And that's what I am trying to make people understand.
Imran is a Taliban apologist who is asking us to surrender to Pakistan's worst enemies.
Re: Imran says US talking to Taliban proves that Pak should also do so (Plz do read)
Afghan Taliban had training camps established in Afghanistan from where sectarian terrorists were entering Pakistan to systematically kill non-Wahhabis in Pakistan.
Shahbaz Sharif sent a delegation to Taliban govt to try to convince them to stop their support of terrorism in Pakistan.
But Taliban were not attacking Pakistan as today because Pak was actually their primary supporter itself, and secondly they were busy doing their fasad on Afghanistan.
In other words, you are calling for our surrender in front of the anti-Islam mufsideen. That's exactly what Imran says. And that's what I am trying to make people understand.
Imran is a Taliban apologist who is asking us to surrender to Pakistan's worst enemies.
Firs of all sectarian parties were based in jehlum and karachi not in afghanistan secondly Imran Khan is just saying a super power can't defeat Taliban what on earth makes you think you can sorry sir by keep on fighting with them you will not win the battle they have the stamina of fighting with you for the next hundred years do you want to fight the for next hundred years I don't think so
Re: Imran says US talking to Taliban proves that Pak should also do so (Plz do read)
Firs of all sectarian parties were based in jehlum and karachi not in afghanistan
but they were getting trained by anti-Islam fasadis, Taliban.
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secondly Imran Khan is just saying a super power can't defeat Taliban what on earth makes you think you can sorry sir by keep on fighting with them you will not win the battle they have the stamina of fighting with you for the next hundred years do you want to fight the for next hundred years I don't think so
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That's plain cowardice. Do you know that? You are talking about America is if it is god.
Imran and you are talking about surrender of Muslims in front of anti-Islam khawarij.
Taliban and their affiliates can be defeated. First thing is to get rid of their supporters in Pakistan. America can't do it but Pakistan can.
Re: Imran says US talking to Taliban proves that Pak should also do so (Plz do read)
but they were getting trained by anti-Islam fasadis, Taliban.
That's plain cowardice. Do you know that? You are talking about America is if it is god.
Imran and you are talking about surrender of Muslims in front of anti-Islam khawarij.
Taliban and their affiliates can be defeated. First thing is to get rid of their supporters in Pakistan. America can't do it but Pakistan can.
Sir go ahead with this war and let 35000 more people die but still I grantee you will be not able to defeat Taliban this war will continue for next 200 years Sir talk to them it is the only solution left or let your country get destroyed to make America happy
Re: Imran says US talking to Taliban proves that Pak should also do so (Plz do read)
Sir go ahead with this war and let 35000 more people die but still I grantee you will be not able to defeat Taliban this war will continue for next 200 years Sir talk to them it is the only solution left or let your country get destroyed to make America happy
You acknowledge thousands of people these khawarij have killed and yet you are willing to ignore their crimes because you are too afraid of them. I think this summarizes what you are saying here.
Agreed that Taliban can never be defeated ... provided that we continue to allow foreign funding to reach them, continue to allow hate-filled madressahs to provide them with extremist fodder, continue to allow their khawarij supporters in Pak institutions, continue to hesitate in going after them all out, and continue to consider war against them as America's war.
The duplicity of your statement is exposed by seeing that on one hand you call fight against them "America's war" (hence asking Pakistanis to consider Taliban "our guys"), but on the other hand you also acknowledge their crimes against Pakistan which are worthy of making them Pakistan's and Islam's traitors.
So what exactly do you PTI supporters think Taliban are? Good guys or bad guys?
GOOD GUYS who are being attacked by "American stooges" in Pakistan; or BAD GUYS who have killed 000s of Pakistan but deserve to be talked to due to our supposed inability to defeat them?
Re: Imran says US talking to Taliban proves that Pak should also do so (Plz do read)
But you just said that America is not willing to spend resources on Taliban.
Looks like you are not following what is going on. First US said that they will talk to “good Taliban” who are willing to give up their arms, lately they are talking to ANY Taliban without condition of giving up arms. What makes you believe that Afghan government would be able to control Taliban threat
Re: Imran says US talking to Taliban proves that Pak should also do so (Plz do read)
You acknowledge thousands of people these khawarij have killed and yet you are willing to ignore their crimes because you are too afraid of them. I think this summarizes what you are saying here.
Agreed that Taliban can never be defeated ... provided that we continue to allow foreign funding to reach them, continue to allow hate-filled madressahs to provide them with extremist fodder, continue to allow their khawarij supporters in Pak institutions, continue to hesitate in going after them all out, and continue to consider war against them as America's war.
The duplicity of your statement is exposed by seeing that on one hand you call fight against them "America's war" (hence asking Pakistanis to consider Taliban "our guys"), but on the other hand you also acknowledge their crimes against Pakistan which are worthy of making them Pakistan's and Islam's traitors.
So what exactly do you PTI supporters think Taliban are? Good guys or bad guys?
GOOD GUYS who are being attacked by "American stooges" in Pakistan; or BAD GUYS who have killed 000s of Pakistan but deserve to be talked to due to our supposed inability to defeat them?
It is not the question of good or bad nor do I support Imran Khan but if you think you can defeat them sir I challenge you this war will never end for next 100 years thousand more will die but this war will never end