Imran Khan's toxic narrative on terrorism ... needs to stop ... and stop right now!

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Please read this column carefully..very carefully and see the pattern of taliban supporters…look at the style..first start the column by bashing Israelis and USA in context of Palestine…then start bashing India in kashmir…these are hugely popular topics among pakistani masses…then finally at the end of column, start showing connection between talibans, AQ and USA and create confusion as if USA is supporting majority of Pakistani talibans…so the real enemy is USA not TTP! just look at his tone..so respectful towards aiman zharwi and some other AQ leaders…

Hamid Mir you are such an idiot!

Hamid Mir - qalam Kaman - America aor alqaeda men raabtay - Jang Columns

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^ this is the discourse which has confused people, more than this is the policy of the army itself.

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what is asad saying.. thx

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PTI distances itself from Imran’s Taliban office statement - DAWN.COM

Agree

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Imran should keep quiet on this dialog thing now as even as he is pleading to the TTP to renounce violence the mayhem is still continuing and also provide ammo to the media and the liberals. He is sandwiching himself between two extremes. If the government wants to go ahead with an operation in FATA let them go ahead, the province should try and beef up their security. I personally dont think the army would ever attack NWA but by issuing statements IK is taking all that blame on himself. In any case I dont think there would be much difference in violence as it has never ended.

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](https://twitter.com/TahirImran/status/383686861664710656)well we are saying all sorts of things about Taliban office & Imran Khan but did someone tell IK what happened to Qatar office?

anyway, IK has damaged his political mileage quite a bit by making this ridiculous suggestion…i mean really stupid statement…his hard core supporters will still support him but once again questions will be raised about khan’s political wisdom and his famous stubbornness…and just look at the timing of his statement..right after those animals killed 100 people…and he wants to give them an identity and a office!

the fact that asad umar had to step up to do some damage control indicates that progressive PTI leaders have had enough of IK’s stand on terrorism..IK needs to keep his mouth in control for a while on this issue..it is hurting him and PTI.,

On the other hand.,..really glad to see PTI showing disassociation with IK statement…that shows some serious political maturity. I cannot even imagine PMLN executive committee ever showing such courage and maturity.

Good job PTI!

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Fauzia Kasuri ‏@FauziaKasuri](https://twitter.com/FauziaKasuri) 4h I request Insafians to pls be tolerant of other ppl’s views. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Ok to differ, but must not insult anyone

thank you Fauzia!

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This is exactly what I thought, Imran Khan is taking the flak to try and bail the army out which does not want to carry out the operation in NWA as they believe they will lose there (or maybe the army has already lost?).

Terms of surrender - DAWN.COM

However, stung by opprobrium on live TV, one of Imran Khan’s top lieutenants let the cat out of the bag. Without naming anyone and attributing his remarks to a ‘highly placed’ source, Naeem ul Haq dropped what can only be described as a bombshell.

**He said: “We have been told that there is no more than a 40pc chance of success of a military operation.” So, he said, talks presented the only viable option and his leader’s proposal for the opening of a TTP office should be seen in the same light.
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While Naeem ul Haq refused to name his source, given his proximity to Imran Khan it wasn’t difficult to guess this revelation must have come from the PTI leader’s coveted exclusive briefing by the prime minister, the army chief and, in all probability, the ISI boss on the morning of the APC.

**Is it then the case of the civilian, elected politicians once again taking flak for our hallowed men in khaki? If so, doesn’t the nation have the right to know if the fight against the terrorists is already lost? And even if it isn’t lost, that no decisive victory is likely? Hence we have to settle for scraps from the negotiating table?
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This isn’t all. Pakistan’s top military strategist (for evidence please read up on the assault on Jalalabad post the Soviet pullout from Afghanistan in the late 1980s), retired Lt Gen Hamid Gul, who is said to be an inspiration for many intelligence officers and militant groups, has now disclosed that Mulla Omar’s help has also been sought in order to facilitate the dialogue.

According to Mr Gul, Sirajuddin Haqqani (one of the leading ‘good’ Taliban) is chairing a ‘shura’ of the TTP to persuade the various elements that make up the group to respond favourably to the talks offer. We can only hope the TTP hasn’t noticed the hollow where our spine once was and, sensing a walkover, doesn’t spurn the offer.

For now, the news is that the ‘good’ Taliban are talking to the ‘bad’ Taliban and the latter may just listen to them too. Does it take away the despair that overwhelms so many of us? If you ask me, despair at this capitulation may well be overcome with time. What we’ll always have to live with are the consequences.

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This is the reality that is not sinking into PTI/IK. The nation must act in decisive manner against these killer instead of appeasing them.

Govt not serious in talks, says ?TTP leader? - DAWN.COM

PESHAWAR: A senior TTP leader has criticised the government and said it had taken no serious initiative so far for holding talks with his group.

Omar Khalid Khurasani is the chief of TTP’s Mohmand Agency chapter.

In a message uploaded on social media networks on Friday, Khurasani said: “We want to clarify that we are not begging for peace talks, but we took the initiative of offering talks for the wellbeing of the countrymen and for saving Pakistan from more losses.”

“This does not mean that we are weak. We are still organised and strong. We (Taliban) are still loyal to our chief Hakeemullah Mehsud,” the message said.

He said that since the killing of a major general in Upper Dir and the attack on a church in Peshawar the media had been criticising Taliban and questioning their seriousness about negotiations although no ceasefire had yet been declared. Because no peace agreement had been finalised TTP’s attacks were continuing, he added.

Khurasani claimed that three members of TTP who had been taken into custody about three months ago had been killed in Karachi this week.

He expressed doubts about chances of success of any peace talks with the government and said Taliban wanted changes in the constitution while they were being told that talks could be held within the parameters of the constitution.

“We will not budge an inch from our demand for enforcement of Islamic Shariah in the country,” he said and warned that if any Taliban commander compromised on this issue the TTP would never support him.

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There will be no decisive action (IK or not), mark my words. PMLN wont touch LEJ safehavens in Punjab (as it would destabilize the province) and Army will not touch NWA (as they will lose leverage in Afghanistan which is the sole reason for sacrificing 50000 people as collateral damage). Both lie under federal government's domain in any case. They dont need approval of IK to go ahead with operation in either place.

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Army lost the war already . till the war was limited to the death of soldiers only they continued. now TTP is targeting big guns of army n they dont have balls to face it. Hence looking for face saving

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oh Lord…if this is true, we are complectely f … ucked up.

the whole premises of fighting against these animals with full force is solely dependent on our army’s ability to do so and if that is not the case, what are we talking about? I wont be surprised. I dont have high hopes from our army in this type of war. Our army is not as tough as we would like to think… plus talibans have been bleeding our army for 10 years now…that is why our generals beg for more and more drone attacks because they have not been able to eliminate any TTP leader on their own.

These are depressing news…

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fine if our army cannot fight these animals on its own..why cant we make it an international issue and conduct combined pak-nato froces in FATA ? Pakistan has zero control on FATA region anyway....i am sure the world will help us. NATO forces has much more sophisticated weapons as well.

bottom-line....are we serious abt this fight or not? as a nation, as an army and as politicians?

of course we will never invite nato or usa forces to help us because it is against our so called sovereignty ... yet these taliban animals keep violating our borders and our corrupt and incompetent army and useless politicans can not do anything abt it

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its not a case of sovereignty as FATA was never under Pakistan's control. The bigger thing is Afghanistan, until the army stops dreaming of their leverage there nothing will change.

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Not depressing at all, I dont think the army wants to fight them. I am sure they can uproot them if they want to. The Afghan narrative that has been built during the past 35 years still seems to play a role in deciding the course of action.

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just to make it clear..when i say corrupt and incompetent army i am referring to top brass not army jawans....referring to those in army who makes toxic strategic decisions and who wants to keep talibans as strategic assets..those who run real estate schemes in pakistan ..generals who are millionaires or maybe billionaires....they are the one who dont have the stomach to fight

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the army has already fought in almost all of FATA, now parts of South Waziristan and NWA remain where Mullah Nazir and Hafiz Gul Bahadur's men reside (who would be important in Afghanistan's context). Operations have been conducted in Swat, and Dir in KPK as well. If we leave aside Waziristan for a moment then which other area can they conduct an operation as Punjab is out of bounds?

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so what is the point ali? are you saying that we have already done operations everywhere except parts of SW and NW? and we are not doing operations in those areas because army thinks we have good strategic talibans there?

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Good taleban. I dont see any operations there, army will use consensus as the excuse and politicians would bail them out. Watch and see! The confusion regarding taleban is from the state and it only reflects in the shape of our politicians and common people. Did the army need consensus to carry out operations in parts of SWA, Orakzai, Khyber, Mohmand, Kurram & Bajaur etc? The agreements in place with Mullah Nazir and Hafiz Gul Bahadur have been inked by the army itself.

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