If you had not been born in a Muslim home

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Thank you.

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Interesting question,

Usually we see that very few ppls dare to step out of the religious boundries set by their parents and religious teachers. When U are told from day one that what U have to believe and what not, than U are more likely to follow. For instance a born shia, sunni, wahabi, baraillwy, Ahmadi, or nussarie is more likely to remain within his own religious boundry. There are really very few who can choose their religion. At least in today's time.

My humble opinion only.

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I had that thought when i was in school, the time when we read about old times arabs worshiping idols and not accepting One God saying that they follow their elders and would not switch path. That time i felt i was just like those arabs (of old times), i was doing the same, i knew nothing more than what i was told and was just told to follow it. I was just a muslim because i was born in a muslim family, so i decided to search things on my own, i kind of went away from islam and started studying other religions for a long time (about 6-7 years) i was like finding one religion interesting then would find big issues (confusion) and wont able to find any answer, the only answer i got was that's the way it is. But the time i came back to islamic teachings AlhamduLilla i found all answers to my questions and then finally felt 100% confidence in Islam and i think i truly became a muslim after that and Insha-Allah will stay like this forever :)

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The bold is absolutely true.

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If I had not been born into the religion I was born in?
99.9%, I would have stayed in that religion. Just like most of us.

When I ask myself, this question, why? The answer seems to be that, it binds me with a community, with rules, regulations, beliefs, traditions, explains life and after life, and what is good and bad. the good go to heaven the bad to hell.

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In general, most people are satisfied where they are.

People who convert into other faiths are a relative minority compared to the vast majority who die the religion they were born into.

I dont mean to imply that any one religion is better or worse then another.

At the core of all humanity are shared values, and most of the religions of the world seem to share those core values. So long as those core values are espoused by your religion, you will be satisfied.

Think of it like this. If I want a car with GPS, and most cars have GPS, then i will be satisfied with whatever car I have. Of course, if I wanted something extra, unique to a particular model, i would then go out and buy that one.
And of course if you are one of those people who cant stand driving at all, you will sell your car altogether and become an atheist.. :)

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Its a part of your identity. Without an identity, what are you?!?

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Everyone believes in something. Belief is not a barometer for truth.

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I respect tfully disagree with your post. Of course EVRRYONE would not be satisfied with his her religion. As Med correctly points out, it is common sense there would be a minority who would be dissatisfied. So in the literal sense you are correct. But from a practical aspect, I agree with Med that majority would stick to their faith.

Just a humble opinion.

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Surprisingly? :frowning:

Now, this is a real ego booster for me. :hehe:

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People who are agnostic or atheist might someday have ventured back to Islam. Those of you who are the "bestest" Muslims that you can be, I have bad news for you: your devotion to Islam would have been transferred over to whatever religion you were born into.

Makes you think about being open-minded doesn't it? Nah, you're a Muslim so you're clearly on team winning!

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If one really reads the definition of religion, essentially it means collection of 'beliefs'.

This means, one cannot separate the word belief from word religion..or vice versa.

Hence, I think I have a few times said that) even atheism and agnosticism are a forms of religions.

We just separate formed religions from atheism/agnosticism based on presence or absence of a deity/supreme being (except the Buddhism)

Atheists/agnostics do not like to admit though. :)

You do know Buddhism is still called religion despite it has no concept of Creator God.

You made a generalized comment and did not give room for any other option, hence I said not necessarily.

I did not accuse you for saying one religion is better than other.

If core values were to be the only reasons people would care, then majority people in this world would not have been following a 'formal religion'.

There is more than the core values in religions which satisfies or dissatisfies people in the world.

I never got in to minority or majority.

Only objected to generalized statement.

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^ my apologies. I didn't realize you took it literally. Cheers!

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To not question and not seek answer is same as living life as an animal.

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If you did not want me to take it literally then why you even talked in "literal sense"? :D

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In today's time you cannot convert by force someone to other religion. only those convert to other religion who practice thier religion and have questions about their religion. These people have potential to find and accept the truth. If a preacher reaches that person and tell him the truth and answer his questions he would embrace that religion.
If that person could not find a person(preacher) who can convince him and he still have questions about his religion and could not get answers, acording to some Muslim ulema that person will go to Jannah (Allah knows best).
that's why in Islam, preaching is fardh(not on evryone but on a group of few people of every comunity).

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logicallay their are 7 billion people with Muslims only 1.5 to 1.75 billion so certainly the chances are if I am born in non Muslim family I am going to stay as such same way I am Muslim the prime reason is because I am born into Muslim family.

Islam is the truth but that doesn't mean others are not, it's just this every one is biased towards other religions I am too regardless of having quiet liberal views.

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Well if I were not born into a Muslim family, I would have been a Sikh or Hindu (as this was the religion other than Islam in the village of my parents), maybe devout in what ever religion I would have followed. It's the most difficult thing for a person to change his religion.

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It matters not you are born in a muslim household or not. People are born ignorant but usually with working brain and senses or with ability to learn and make up their minds as they grow but it is all up to individuals themselves to learn to use their own brains, senses and bodily mechanisms. Likewise it is up to people to explore the world in which they live and see what more they need to know. Only when they have reached a certain level of learning they realise that they need to know more than what they can learn merely through their brain and senses. That is they will come to realise that just knowing about themselves and their world is not enough to live a satisfactory life. That is the point at which they search for information that helps them know where they have come from and why.

Unless people have developed thinking minds to this stage they are like animals and it matters not what they claim to be. However once they realise they need to learn more and that knowledge is not ordinary knowledge, they look out for that information. They if keep looking may find their way to the quran. Once they can understand the quran, they will come to know what it says and whether it is what they are looking for not.

It is because even though the quran is word of God and purposefully perfect yet people cannot know this straight away because their knowledge only comes through learning and takes a long time. As people learn more and more about the quran and about quran related other things, tye will come to realise that the quran is what they have been searching for. We must remeber that no matter how good the quran itself may be it needs to be understood by people and used by them and people are born knowing nothing much at all.

So it should be obvious that to understand the quran people will have to educate themselves to a level that then helps them understand the quran. It is because all people are not born at the same time nor educate themselves to same level so differences of opinion about same thing are bound to happen. Life would have been a bore if people had nothing to do and all was done for them by God.

The main thing is, try and think what you would have done if you were a God? If you can come up with a better way of doing things than the quranic explanation of things then you have every right to reject it otherwise you cannot be at peace after rejecting something that you cannot explain any better.

The quran does not ask us to be stupid but to be sensible people. It tells us to be knowledgeable people. It told us to do this 1400+ year ago whereas we have only started building educational institutions quite recently and education is still not wide spread in our world even in 21st century.

The books, reading and writing are greatly valued as source of learning for humanity by the quran. Why would a con man promote learning and teaching. Today we have copyright on whatever we find or do whereas books like the quran were shared freely.

Atheism is also promoted by same sources that promoted imperialism, dictatorships, priesthood, secularism, religion, religious sectarianism, communism, capitalism and democracy etc etc only to keep already created rifts between people and to create more and more. Why? Because it helps people in power stay in power by using various mechanisms to keep people fighting over non-issues.

If we had one proper rule of law for goal of peace among human kind with proper checks and balances based upon proper rights and responsibilities and rules and regulations then why would we need any other kind of social, political and economic structures, systems, procedures and practices?

Unless we spread this kind of education and motivation in our human societies, we are bound to get stuck again and again as our ideas meet dead ends with lots of harm and destruction in the world. Where is need for us to waste a lot of our energy in fighting among ourselves rather than doing what needs to be done through helpin g each other ie to plan human future with full confidence and work hard for making it a reality. Whose purpose are we serving by going about our lives this way?

Each day we are seeing a lot of unwanted children dying after a lot of suffering. If we educate people and plan families according to the quranic teaching, we will save ourselves from this huge embarrassment. The quran tells us to not to reproduce more than we can take care of as a human community. This is major cause of suffering because of our ignorance and mismanagement of provided resources. A lot of us are sitting idle doing nothing to contribute to human society because of various reasons eg to avoid exploitation and due to holding grudges against each other.

Islamic terrorism should be compared to all this and you will see that it is not as big problem as all other things. It is because of this people who are cause of these problems try to trick us in drawing our attention to islamic terrorism, which has a lot to do with how people are being treated around the world by each other.

Why rich and powerful countries are funding bad guys in the islamic world?

It is of vital importance to have over all picture of things and then see where all the problems in the world fit in and why. Look at how many crimes are committed and how many lives are lost or damaged on daily basis through out the world.

Raising an issue in isolation is just a con trick by those whose purpose it serves. That is why they blow it up out of all proportions.

Let us be human beings and think with clear minds free of biases and prejudices and hatred. if we humans are a single family in actual fact then why should we live in isolation from each other? Who is forcing us to do that and not to live in harmony through educating each other and coming together on the basis that works?

There is a lot educated people can learn from each other and that is exactly what they should be doing instead of promoting hatred against each other senselessly.

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