IF and I repeat IF, Pakistan found non-refutable and hard evidence that the whole terrorist strike was planned, designed and carried by a foreign country, should Pakistan declare war on that country?
I say definitely, because it is better to die once fighting for the motherland than to just stand by and watch our brothers and sisters being butchered by those trained terrorists day in day out.
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I personally think that even if an evidence will be found the military and politicians will put it in the back burner (a statement will come from Rahman Malik there's a hidden hand which will be disclosed at the right time), no one has the courage and guts to present Pakistan's case.
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we need to send our enemies a loud and clear msg that we have such brave young jawans tht we do not fear from any country!! OUR Pak Fauj Jawan can sacrifice their lives for our beloved country. but Unfortunetly, like Ali said ... the truth remains no one in Pakistan has the courage to give a loud and clear message to our enemies!!
after months .. they would want us to forget this and move on! :(
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so if you find that a bunch of Saudi citizens were directly or indirectly involved in the attack on your PNS base, you want pakistan to declare war on Saudi Arabia?
PS: IMO it is quite likely that whatever terrorist group perpetrated this has some arab members and/or could even have some funding given them by KSA for other purposes which got diverted
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PS: IMO it is quite likely that whatever terrorist group perpetrated this has some arab members and/or could even have some funding given them by KSA for other purposes which got diverted
Lets analyze this.
Goal was to destroy the Orion planes, used for sea defenses. They were not interested in any other planes parked there
Goal was to strike and take Chinese hostage and terrorists were very determined to do that
The terrorists were equipped with the state of the art weaponry that Saudis can only dream of. They knew the every small detail about the base that an average Jihadi can only day-dream.
The foot soldiers could be hired-guns, but these are details. We Pakistanis need to have a look at the big picture and go after their master minds / their planners and declare war on those.
Tell them in very clear terms that enough is enough and if we go down, YOU GO DOWN WITH US.
At the moment the suspicion is falling on few countries which are non-Arab.
Govt. should be very careful to name any unless they have a very hard and irrefutable evidence. Because we are talking war here....
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^ so, if you find out that Saudis were involved, will you live up to what you said and declare war on them?
remember the IF.
Quite frankly, going by what you say about how well they " knew the every small detail about the base that an average Jihadi can only day-dream" doesn't that point to Pak military - some section of it are behind these attacks?
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Mr. La Parisiene:
First, Saudia Arabia is not an enemy of Pakistan. Pak Army is stationed in Saudi Arabia to protect the royal ar$e. Remember?
Secondly, hypothetically speaking many things can happen, for example what IF Israel is found to have blown up the towers in New York, will USA declare war on Israel? No, because they know Israel has no interest in doing so.
The same way we know, Saudi and Chinese have no interest in destroying Pakistani defences.
As wrote before this act of war was not carried by some average Jihadi, but very highly trained terrorists with very sophisticated weaponry and intelligence coverage which is out of reach for those.
The suspicion is narrowed to few countries which are NON-ARAB. And since we are talking about war, we MUST have irrefutable and very very hard evidence before we name any country.
But once we find that evidence, the only way for us now is to declare war on those who carried this act of war on Pakistan.
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^ you are not getting to my question.
it is a well known fact that arabs are part of terrorist groups in Af-Pak including Al Qaeda. It is also widely reported with Pak press that Saudi Arabia (and in one report even UAE) have been funding madrassahs which have radical imams and mullahs breathing terrorist fire to their students.
So my question to you was, if it is found that one of these groups was behind the attack, will you declare war on KSA?
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All the ramblings.. and bs going on in media …the planes were for surveillance of Indian Navy etc.. blah blah… Nope sir, our own Naval Cheif just reported on PTV .. that Navy is a target because these planes & Special Services Group-Navy took part in operation rah-e-rast and other operations going in FATA.
Fast forward to 4:00
After listening this all the bullshyt analysis must be stop.
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^ you are not getting to my question.
it is a well known fact that arabs are part of terrorist groups in Af-Pak including Al Qaeda. It is also widely reported with Pak press that Saudi Arabia (and in one report even UAE) have been funding madrassahs which have radical imams and mullahs breathing terrorist fire to their students.
So my question to you was, if it is found that one of these groups was behind the attack, will you declare war on KSA?
You are just banging your head to wall, he just follow what Zaid hamid & Jammat Islammi said. Guess what rising population of Pakistan is also by Israel, India & America.
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^ you are not getting to my question.
it is a well known fact that arabs are part of terrorist groups in Af-Pak including Al Qaeda. It is also widely reported with Pak press that Saudi Arabia (and in one report even UAE) have been funding madrassahs which have radical imams and mullahs breathing terrorist fire to their students.
So my question to you was, if it is found that one of these groups was behind the attack, will you declare war on KSA?
It is a very well known fact that India has been and is involved in terrorism in Pakistan and India has fought 3-4 wars with Pakistan. But still we are not jumping our guns at India without evidence as yet.
And as wrote before and you are refusing to read.
We are interested to know:
Who is militarily training the terrorists to carry acts of war against Pakistan?
Who is providing them all the surveillance information?
Who is providing them state-of the-art weaponry?
Who is providing them with the equipment that even army like Pakistan does not have?
Who is selecting the targets with huge strategic importance destruction of which will hugely benefit an enemy like India?
Which country is this?
And no, we will never go to war with allies like Saudia or China. Because as the history suggests, these countries have always stood by Pakistan in tough times and never tried to weaken Pak defenses. They have absolutely no benefit of doing so, because Pakistan is their staunch ally. So you can keep day dreaming that Pakistan goes to war with its allies, but we know who our enemy is and all we are seeking **right now is the **hard and irrefutable evidence.
Once it is found, I am all for open war with the enemy. Enough is enough.
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It is a very well known fact that India has been and is involved in terrorism in Pakistan and India has fought 3-4 wars with Pakistan. But still we are not jumping our guns at India without evidence as yet.
And as wrote before and you are refusing to read.
We are interested to know:
Who is militarily training the terrorists to carry acts of war against Pakistan?
Who is providing them all the surveillance information?
Who is providing them state-of the-art weaponry?
Who is providing them with the equipment that even army like Pakistan does not have?
Who is selecting the targets with huge strategic importance destruction of which will hugely benefit an enemy like India?
Which country is this?
And no, we will never go to war with allies like Saudia or China. Because as the history suggests, these countries have always stood by Pakistan in tough times and never tried to weaken Pak defenses. They have absolutely no benefit of doing so, because Pakistan is their staunch ally. So you can keep day dreaming that Pakistan goes to war with its allies, but we know who our enemy is and all we are seeking **right now is the **hard and irrefutable evidence.
Once it is found, I am all for open war with the enemy. Enough is enough.
... they would always be in denial .. no matter wht we say!!
and you are right ... I dont see tht Pakistan would ever go to war with its allies!
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@achterban - you are still refusing to answer my question which I repeat. If it is found that arabians are involved with the pakistani group that atatcked the base, will you advise declaring war on KSA? can you please answer a straight question?
BTW it is not a fact about India being involved in terrorism in Pakistan - it is only a rumor that zaid hamid and similar spread to keep the Pak military in butter. A person such as you who says you want irrefutable evidence, should not adopt such theories because it makes you feel better about your army. You can either live in denial or seek evidence, not both!