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it was in reply to ANJAAN’s post where he said this :
"I think there is something more. Arabs find fault with Indian & Pak Muslims that they failed to convert all India to Islam.
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ok got weak so now started to jump from arabic to urdu..so u want them to deliver messages in sanskrit i believe? BTW what does urdu have to do with religion…if u are so pro hindi…ask the tamilians in ur country to learn hindi first…giving sermons in urdu or arabic or english has nothing to do with religion 
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hei.. i didnt comment on hindi.. who cares about hindi and sanskrit. They are just another language to me. So is arab and urdu.. i mean to say that the muslims in kerala and tamil nadu, wants to speak in urdu.Their childrens studies are carried out in arabic schools.
There are sizable christian and hindu population in south india.. most of the relegious text have been converted to their respective languages. In kerala and tamil nadu the christiann church give their services in tamil and malayalam respectively. why not the muslims speak their language in their homes. I have some friends who go around in tamil nadu and kerala to speak in their own mother tongue at homes and mosque. Language is a basis of a culture.. if u can forget that then u can as well church give their services in tamil and malayalam respectively. And my friend India is not about UP, BIHAR and MP. It is also about KARNATAKA, ANDHRA, TAMIL NADU and KERALA to name a few. People dont speak Hindi or Sanskrit there.. the normal person speak their own respective language. I hope u know that. Even the brahmins who are supposed to be the holders of the sanskrit way of life speak their mother tongue at home.
Hei dont u see that some of the countries where muslims are in majority tend to start to write everything in arabic.
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simpson.. i am not saying that my basis of agument is based on language alone. language or lyric is just one such borrowing. I hope u got that clear. :) . And mind u.. i would do the same if some northies try to push hindi down my throat as well.:D .
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buddy indonesia, malaysia are examples of countries (to name a few)where many people dont understand arabic…
agreed india is also about south india…whats dos it have to do with muslims or islam…lemme ask u this do muslims only live in south india? man language does not interfere with religion…i have seen many keralite muslims in india they dont know anything about urdu…anyways the quote “normal person shud speak their own language” what does that have to do with being backward or forward or being muslim…many desis when they go to US or other countries forget their own language and speak in english…are they abnormal?
The whole point is that we can keep on going in circles but nothing here is being tied to anything…sometimes muslims are backward…then sometimes only muslims in india pakistan are backward…then sometimes muslims in south india are backward..sometimes they are backward because they speak in arabic…then sometimes they become backward for speaking in urdu…anyways not ur fault buddy..some other person started this thread…some person whose aim is to just findout loopholes in islam and pakistan..and try to jutsify that it is incorrect (and he always fails)..that someone is very anti-islam and pakistan …i never heard any good word from him since the day he joined
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I agree with u. Havent heard anything even close to that…thats a lame argument
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why dont the educated people in the muslim faith speak out. If u allow the Mullas to hijack ur religion then the image of islam will keep getting a beating all the time. I see people in malappuram( kerala,where the Muslim is 80% of the population) getting their daughters married to some filthy old arab. Is this the way. The poor people in those areas go to the gulf and then get all kinds of ideas and then come back with a more religious agenda. That is why i said..the influence of the arab should be stopped.:)
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simple becuase it requires wisdom to understand a genius.
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Indian Muslims, wherever they are living, in north or south, they are stubborn towards Urdu. What is their problem if a language has nothing to do with a religion?
Fatguru...Thanks, may be I misunderstood the reasons why Arabs dislike Indian and Pak Muslims.
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If it is so, why you are mostley proud of fast growing no.s in quantity?
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I will comment on that but mate again u r being very specfic to south india…its true that muslim people in south india and even in some pakistani cities get their young daughters married to some filthy rich arabs in UAE and SA etc. I know this because one of my best friends mum is from Mangalore she got married to an old arab and came to dubai. That is only because of poverty in that region. i am against it but they are very happy..her whole family in India got settled in dubai…she never had any qualms…the sons are doing great in dubai making a lot of money…she speaks he native language and arabic fluently…the point is that if muslims in those areas are very poor and get their daughters married with arabs for a better future not because of islam…same case as many desis from many countries marry in US, or england for a better future…having said that i strongly oppose both parties…but the whole idea is that u cannot take this into account and blame the whole muslim population and tie this to muslims being backward…I have a very good muslim friend from kerala in dubai…he only speaks malyalam at his home and prefers it, his whole family does it and they are also devout muslims…
if u think mate that arabic influence such as reading quran in arabic must be stopped that will never happen…it is no one’s business to tell anyone not to learn arabic and not to offer prayers in arabic…as long as a person understands and translates the meaning from arabic to his/her language thats fine…on the other hand if a person does not know arabic at all he/she still can be a very devout muslim…and mind u learning arabic does not make one backward…it is an advantage to know more than one language these days isn’t it
Religion means belief and belief can be in any language…
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There are all sorts of Muslims in the world. Some proud of one thing some glad about another. Thinking one stereotype represents all Muslims is just bigotry. I don’t think any one has high jacked faith, people see what they want to see, if you are just looking for faults and flaws you are bound to be biased. Nobody can help you there. People criticise Allah all the time, does the lightening strike them then and there? No. If Muslims could only worry about how Allah sees them instead of other humans we would be in much better position.
To me numbers are unimportant, Islam is beautiful if its in billion hearts and no less if its in one. However it is good to see that your brethern is increasing, more people out of hell fire inshAllah. Thats something to be happy about isnt it?
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Wiseone, as per your reply, I am under impression that just being a Muslim in name or reading kalma is enogh for a sure entry to heaven.
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Out of 50+ Muslim majority countries how many are really progressive, I mean in science, technology, and in education etc.
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bull ****, muslims are not considered backwards in all aspects of life. That in itself is a stupid comment. If you can, by argument convince me that muslims are indeed backwarsd,or that by default a "forwards" exists then an argument is perhaps worthwhile. If not then go get your self a hobby.
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problem is that anjaan's sole purpose in life is trying to justify that islam, muslims and pakistanis are all wrong...the religion is nonsense...the country is nonsense, the race is nonsense...otherwise why would an extremist come into a pakistani/muslim forum...hint: to spread hatred... time and again he tries it and he fails...keep trying buddy or as i have said before keep crying buddy
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Homer…you may not like it, but this post is an outcome of a defeated mentality.
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mate all the posts that u have been posting since u came to GS already reflect what kind of mentality u have :D
and i said before keep crying (oops i mean't trying)
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No religion is the source of all knowledge. Knowledge is a composite of human learning not limited to faiths of a section of society. Leave spirituality and terms like Knowledge, governance, economics away from each other. Knowledge evolves, faiths (some are stuck in their inceptive bearings)
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matsui bhai aaaj baday achay mood main ho