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Agree with you on that one. -DP
Thanks DP
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Hair, it depends on which maddhab you follow. Hanafis are ver strict about ctting hair, though, some schoalrs (esp. the ones from Arabia) allow it. Henna is supposed to be a form of beautification, so really, why would a man need to put henna? It's imitating women, which is not allowed. And, we're talking about henna designs. As for Twelver Shias, they are not Muslims.
Sir in my humble opinion, a Muslims is the one who; (1) Believes in Absolute Oneness, Greatness and Lordship of Allah Almighty, (2) Believes in the Prophet-hood & Ultimate Finality of Hazrat Muhammad (SAWW) and Prophet-hood of previous Apostles, (3) Believes Holy Qur'an to the final book and word of Allah Almighty, plus also believing that Allah Almighty sent previous Scriptures to some previous Prophets, (4) Believes in Taqdeer, Angels, the Day of Judgment, Heaven and Hell, (5) Believes in the pillars of Islam, like daily prayers, alms giving, Ramadan fasts, pilgrimage to Makkah etc...............and Twelver Shias, do believe in the above.........To keep it simple sir, in my humble opinion, we should always try to find commonalities among ourselves and not differences. So anybody, who is getting married with someone of the same religion but different sect should be encouraged and not dissuaded by such Fatwaas............By the way, differences are present even among families of same sect, ethnicity & even real brothers or sisters who would never wed their kids with those of their siblings.
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Brother, how can we say someone is a Muslim who insults and mocks the Companions of the Prophet SAW and his wife (RA)? These are the best of people that the sun has shined upon after all the Prophets (AS).
I mean, come on, the wife of the Prophet SAW?
That's insulting the Prophet SAW and saying he had corrupted wife and Companions (RA). Allah Himself had talked about the purity of Aisha (RA) in the Quran and you're saying these people know better?
Doesn't that break one of your rules? "Believes Holy Qur'an to the final book and word of Allah Almighty!"
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Sir, whats the name of this respectable personality?
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Brother, how can we say someone is a Muslim who insults and mocks the Companions of the Prophet SAW and his wife (RA)? These are the best of people that the sun has shined upon after all the Prophets (AS).
I mean, come on, the wife of the Prophet SAW?
That's insulting the Prophet SAW and saying he had corrupted wife and Companions (RA). Allah Himself had talked about the purity of Aisha (RA) in the Quran and you're saying these people know better?
Doesn't that break one of your rules? "Believes Holy Qur'an to the final book and word of Allah Almighty!"
Sir I do respect your feelings but in my modest opinion, such people may be termed sinners and not infidels, because if your logic is justified than all those, who do not offer their prayers, do not keep fasts, do not give zakat etc may also be termed Kafir or Infidel (Nauzo billah) because that is what Allah Almighty has commanded us to do in Holy Qur'an. Moreover, any one who does not pay homage or send Darood to Hazrat Muhammad (SAWW) or his Ahle Bait is also a Kafir or Infidal (Nauzo billah) because that is what Allah Almighty and His Angels do and that is what He has told us to do, again in the same Holy Qur'an........and the list would go on and on.............
In my humble deliberation, we should show some magnanimity by stopping this discussion, praying for the better future of the new Shia-Sunni couple and leaving the the judgment of Iman and Kufar to Allah Subhanahu Ta'ala, Who, undoubtedly is the most Merciful and the most Beneficent.
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Depends on ur personality, if u wud have problems with shia/sunni then u wud avoid such marriage to begin with. If you are willing to marry a guy from different sect then it shldnt bother u alot in long run either.
I have manyyyyyyy examples in my family of sunni/shia marriage. 2 of my sister inlaws r sunni. They r all happy Mashallah; Beside one example where shia sunni difference caused divorce and Allah knows if that was the actual reason of separation.
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Mods, please move thread to religion forum. It's getting too serious :P
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if shia marries sunni
then u get ruling dynasty for pakistan:D
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Sir, whats the name of this respectable personality?
Peace Doc
This is Maulana IsHaaq - Ahl-al-Hadeeth - (Wahabi Imam from Punjab) ... he's a good man.
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All I will ask her politely.....
...to let me go home. :(
J/K
After doing the Tango?
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Just recently heard of a story where girl was sunni and the guy was shia. They spoke for a few months and she really fought for him and it was a love marriage. The families both came to terms with it and they got happily married with both families consent. The guy however began to have doubts apparently right before the marriage but was too chicken to back out. After 10 days he left the country because he was working in the states and the girl stayed in pakistan waiting for her visa. After 3 months she got her visa but the guy told her he has been thinking and their beliefs are too different. He divorced her! She's the sort of girl who would have given up anything for the guy but he never gave her a chance to explain and just started to have doubts about the differences in their beliefs and the way they prayed and some other incidences. Never consumated the marriage because he felt too guilty since he was having doubts so left after 10 days. Really sad for the girl!
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Sir I do respect your feelings but in my modest opinion, such people may be termed sinners and not infidels, because if your logic is justified than all those, who do not offer their prayers, do not keep fasts, do not give zakat etc may also be termed Kafir or Infidel (Nauzo billah) because that is what Allah Almighty has commanded us to do in Holy Qur'an.
Bro, among the scholars there are opinions that any Muslim who doesn't pray 5 times a day is a kafir. However, I don't hold that opinion my self, because many scholars say, that person is a sinner, but not a kafir.
However, all scholars agree that any person who denies that prayers are fardh, then no doubt that person is a kafir. So, I don't see how you justified my logic by relating the matter of Aisha (RA) to not fasting, praying, paying zakat, etc. I don't see the correlation.
The problem with Shia's is far more. They say Quran has been altered, Aisha (RA) committed adultery, Abu Bakr (RA) was not a Companion, etc. Astaghfirullah.
Anyone holding such beliefs is out of the folds of Islam.
On the other hand, there are Shias who have deviant beliefs, but they are not kafirs.
All in all, it's not a good idea for a Sunni to marry a Shia. Who knows, tomorrow if she becomes a practicing Muslim it could cause some serious problems for her and her children.
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Moreover, any one who does not pay homage or send Darood to Hazrat Muhammad (SAWW) or his Ahle Bait is also a Kafir or Infidal (Nauzo billah) because that is what Allah Almighty and His Angels do and that is what He has told us to do, again in the same Holy Qur'an........and the list would go on and on.............
In my humble deliberation, we should show some magnanimity by stopping this discussion, praying for the better future of the new Shia-Sunni couple and leaving the the judgment of Iman and Kufar to Allah Subhanahu Ta'ala, Who, undoubtedly is the most Merciful and the most Beneficent.
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I agree with your sentiments, but this isn't a light matter.
If she ends up marrying the Shia who is out of the folds of Islam, then their marriage is invalid in the sight of Allah. Any relations between them would mean zinah. I hope you see the severity of the situation.
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Just recently heard of a story where girl was sunni and the guy was shia. They spoke for a few months and she really fought for him and it was a love marriage. The families both came to terms with it and they got happily married with both families consent. The guy however began to have doubts apparently right before the marriage but was too chicken to back out. After 10 days he left the country because he was working in the states and the girl stayed in pakistan waiting for her visa. After 3 months she got her visa but the guy told her he has been thinking and their beliefs are too different. He divorced her! She's the sort of girl who would have given up anything for the guy but he never gave her a chance to explain and just started to have doubts about the differences in their beliefs and the way they prayed and some other incidences. Never consumated the marriage because he felt too guilty since he was having doubts so left after 10 days. Really sad for the girl!
Awww.. thats really sad for her! :( How coward & unlucky of him!
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However, all scholars agree that any person who denies that prayers are fardh, then no doubt that person is a kafir. So, I don't see how you justified my logic by relating the matter of Aisha (RA) to not fasting, praying, paying zakat, etc. I don't see the correlation.
The problem with Shia's is far more. They say Quran has been altered,** Aisha (RA) committed adultery,** Abu Bakr (RA) was not a Companion, etc. Astaghfirullah. Anyone holding such beliefs is out of the folds of Islam.
On the other hand, there are Shias who have deviant beliefs, but they are not kafirs.
All in all, it's not a good idea for a Sunni to marry a Shia. Who knows, tomorrow if she becomes a practicing Muslim it could cause some serious problems for her and her children.
Astagfurallah.... I am shia myself and i am yet to meet a shia who has such belief about hazrat Aisha. we do beleive she was wrong to go on a war against Imam Ali a.s, We beleive she went against Quran but this is a serious accusation.
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I couldn’t find a source that talks about that, even though it’s all over the internet.
But I found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cfnr6I8B5wY
Some grave accusations against Ummul Momineen Aisha (RA). May Allah SWT save us from that.
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In short, its a disaster waiting to happen.
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Aw damn I believe in the tawheed of Allah (swt), do my namaaz, read Qur'aan, give zakaat waghaira waghaira. But because of different views on people I'm out of the fold of Islam. I guess to be a true Muslim you don't need all that namaz Qur'aan junk.. All you need is sahaba and to conform with everybody else.
Lol @ the link. Dude, Yasir Habib is a total wacko. Obviously you people will use the wackos to try an prove a point, since you will be unable to find any of the most learned and respected scholars, lacking any controversy, to be saying that.
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It's not really a disaster waiting to happen ... My mum's dad was Shi'a and her mum was Sunni, he didn't practice matam, and didn't go to the mehfils of Shi'a and didn't know enough about cursing people. I can imagine problems occurring only where either of the two uses their religions to attack each other by ... and this is more likely to happen if there is strict adherence on the part of the Shi'a person out of the two.
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Either suni or shia , your ass will be whopped no matter what if you won’t do good . Thats the bottom line . Being suni/shia won’t be able to save us .
Better think about your own Imaan than mud slinging . :k: