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Originally posted by Faraz Mir:
Why don't you tell us?
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FM, U Seem To Know there is all to know about Islam, WHY DON'T U ENLIGHTEN US and Dear Be a man and Answer My questions too.
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Haha, looks like the Wahabi fascist are crying again. No one has been able to refute the fact that suicide is haraam, instead they come up with some lame excuses on why Muslims should abandon Islamic teachings when they are in Jihad!
And then these same people make some stupid and obscure statement about “Istishaa”, and then want ME to explain to them that they in fact are idiots. Amazing hypocrisy and logic! There is no such thing as “Istishaa” in Islam, maybe in your Wahabi religion it means something.
SWEETIE, when B.M asked 4 “Istishaa” HE MADE A SPELLING MISTAKE
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Looks like as usual you typed that word in Google and hit the search Button and found NOTHING So UR LITTLE IGNORANT TWISTED BRAIN, DECLARED there is NO “Istishaa”. Dear, B.M meant “Istishhad” Now sweetie you know what to type in google
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DEAR, I am going to ADD one MORE Question to my list
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How would you distinguish between “Intihar” and “Istishhad” and YES SWEETIE the spelling is right so U can Search on GOOGLE
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COME ON DEAR, PLEASE ANSWER ALL MY QUESTIONS OR I WILL BE FORCE TO OPEN A NEW THREAD JUST 4 U
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Quasidumbo, you have constantly failed in your attempt to appear as a grown up indivual capable of rational thought. Instead you are getting more and more desperate, acting like a little child who can't think by himself.
I am well aware of how you people try to twist Islam by introducing such terms as "Intihar", "Istishhad" "Intishaa” whatever, only to confuse gullible Muslims.
Suicide is suicide, no matter what term you like to give it. Do you honestly believe in your messed up little mind that suicide is different if it is allegedly used for "Jihad" or for personal reasons?
In fact the suicide being used for Jihad, in killing INNOCENT people is FAR FAR worse in the eyes of Allah. It's a double sin. But you will not understand this rational logic, because you want to continue to believe in your myths and fantasy.
Have you asked yourselves why suicide bombings and killing of innocent was almost never practiced in legitimate Jihad by Muslims? And only recently this has become the order of the day?
But you know, if you and people like you wan t to continue to give the world the impression that Islam indeed is a religion of suicide violence and terrorism, instead of peace, love and tolerance, then go right ahead and make my day!
I can only try and defend Islam from people like you for so long, but if so-called fellow Muslims consider Islam to be a religion that condones terrorism and violence, I really cannot help you.
… you have constantly failed in your attempt to appear as a grown up indivual capable of rational thought.
Look Who is Talking
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AND YES DEAR I am not and I quote “grown up indivual” I AM GROWN UP INDIVIDUAL
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I am well aware of how you people try to twist Islam by introducing such terms as “Intihar”, “Istishhad” "Intishaa” whatever, only to confuse gullible Muslims.
U just FOUND OUT RIGHT NOW, COME ON SWEETIE, ADMIT IT. DON’T BE A SOUR LOSER
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..messed up little mind..
Please DEAR, DO NOT REPHRASE MY SENTENCES!
F.M DEAR, U SEEM TO BE LIVING IN A LA LA LAND. When did I said Suicide is not Suicide?
SWEETIE, U ALWAYS GET TOO EXCITED. NOW TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND HAVE COLD GLASS OF WATER. SWEETIE, FEELING BETTER NOW??? I just asked U simple questions and U always COME UP with other B.S. as usual, TO AVOID MY QUESTIONS. YOU HAVEN’T ANSWERED ANY OF THEM. JUST BEATING AROUND THE BUSH LIKE A L.M.
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And that’s why U COULDN’T ANSWER ANY OF MY SIMPLE QUESTIONS REGARDING ISLAM. By the way How old R U?? I already know you mental age
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I am referring to UR physical. I HOPE THEY R NOT THE SAME!!, BUT I DOUBT IT
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SWEETIE I’LL BE WAITING 4 UR RESPONSE AND ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS, WON’T U DEAR
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P.S: IGNORANCE CAN KILL THE BRAIN, BUT JUST LIKE UR FRIEND I AM AFRAID IT IS TOO LATE TO TELL U
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AJ, I'm still waiting 4 UR KIND Answer.
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F.M FOR GOD'S SAKE NO MORE EXCUSES!
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Hey Quasi, what if Faraz were a Palestinian; what do you think he would do? Let the Israelis rape his land and humiliated him and kick him and his family out of their home or do you think he would be a man enough to FIGHT for his right even with his skin?
Quasidumbo,
I have already responded to you on the issue of suicide bombings, yet you are constantly trying to change the subject to put me on trial instead of your own paranoid delusional teachings of wahabism.
Why haven’t you answered my VERY basic question so far instead of making excuses after excuses? I know it is your modus operandi to attack any individual who opposes your fanatical views as a kafir, but at least try answering my question on suicide bombings.
Once again, since you missed it the first ten times, I ask you this.
Is suicide allowed in Islam? Yes or No will suffice.
Is killing innocent people, even if non-Muslim allowed in Islam?
Is the lust for revenge, and pride allowed in Islam during Jihad or otherwise?
Is emotional attachments and need for taking revenge greater then Islamic teachings and rules of Jihad?
Also, be sure to check the thread on Wahabisim, where I have listed some articles about this devious cult. And the new thread I started about suicide bombing in Pakistan also.
BTW, can you post normally, or do you have to populate your messages with smiles like a ten your old kid every time? And why are you shouting so much? Are you under too much stress that all your fantasies on Islam have been false so far?
But you are right about one thing, I did not know about Istishhad beforehand. You see, unlike the Wahabi madrassah you attended, they never taught me about suicide bombing in school. So the onus is on YOU and your friends to tell me where in the Quran or Hadiths it says its ok.
How many Kashmiris do you see using suicide bombings against Indian civilians? This is despite the fact that Kashmiris are being brutalized and killed on a greater scale then Palestinians! And except for the Wahabi Jihadis from across the border, Kashmiris fighters do not target civilians in Kashmir either.
Blowing up civllians while committing suicide will not solve anything for the Palestinains. Even the freedom struggle (mixed in with a little ISI/Wahabi inspired terrorism) in Kashmir has only bought misery to Kashmiris. Their is no sign today that Kashmir will ever be free from India’s clutches.
Well, kashmir and Palestine are two different disputes my friend. One is holy other one is not. I don’t know why you are associating everything with “wahabis,” but here is what a “salafi/wahabi” site says about suicide bombing: http://www.allaahuakbar.net/scholars/albaani/suicide_bombing.htm
Now, do you have any proof for BS and disinformation you have been associating with “those(‘wahahbis’)” people? NO! Your knowledge about them is only based upon what you hear on zionist media and lies that anti-islamic forces tell about people who call Muslims to QURAN and SUNNAH only not some peer fakeers, dead saint to the rescue!
Its haram to kill innocent people, Quran does not allow that! And its also haram to be a stupid liar like yourself who can’t get enough of quoting lies and disinformation about people he knows nothing about.
I have already responded to you on the issue of suicide bombings
R U ON DRUGS SWEETIE
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? OR TOO MUCH ALCOHOL GETTING TO YOU??? Or MY CAPS BOTHERING YOU DEAR
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As I RECALL Oh on a second Thought LET ME QUOTE JUST 4 U My QUESTION
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“Would U be kind enough to explain the difference between Backbitting and Slander Of character from Islamic point of view? What Our Prophet has to say about it?”
Why haven’t you answered my VERY basic question so far instead of making excuses after excuses?
DEAR, WHY R U PARAPHRASING MY SENTENCES?
try answering my question on suicide bombings..
Remember I ASKED U FIRST DEAR, PLEASE ANSWER ME
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I PROMISE I’ll ANSWER ALL UR QUESTION
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be sure to check the thread on Wahabisim..
Sweetie U have a very weak short/long term Memory, didn’t U read my Respond there and WHAT I THINK OF UR POSTS :yuck:
BTW, can you post normally, or do you have to populate your messages with smiles like a ten your old kid every time?
First of all W.T.F is and I quote “ten your old”. ONCE U START WRITING IN ENGLISH THEN I MIGHT GET RID OF THE CAPS JUST 4 U Dear.
Are you under too much stress that all your fantasies on Islam have been false so far?
AS I RECALL SWEETIE, U R THE ONE LIVING IN THE WORLD OF ILLUSIONS. U R JUST STUCK ON ONE WORD “WAHABI”. AND U DON’T EVEN HAVE ANY CLUE WHAT IT MEANS. Can UR M.R Brain can think beyond that ??? SOMETHING GOES WRONG AND/OR YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING, U JUST BLAME THE WAHABI
Please NO MORE EXCUSES, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
But you are right about one thing, I did not know about Istishhad beforehand.
Now that U know about it, Enlighten us with UR Expertise. AND WHY DID U LIED B4??? DON’T U KNOW LYING IS WRONG IN ISLAM OR IT IS JUST ANOTHER WAHABI THING ???
A SIDE NOTE One more time JUST 4 U :
IGNORANCE CAN KILL THE BRAIN, U R THE LIVING PROOF!
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good hob Flame Z
I also support suicide bombing in Isreal.
Mr FARAZ MIR..
I would call upon you to stop calling other ppl fenatics, brainwashed…
BECAUSE U are no one to decide that.
talk with something logical in mind, with facts, suggestions. and Quranic Quotes.
do not act like a CNN observer.
and its very humble request..
and just tellme. do u think wat palestenians are doing is SUICIDE ??
Dont think “you can” know “you can”
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FARAZ im sure u are ignorant enough,. to compare kashmir and palestine..
Mujahadens are fighting in there. against a massive army.
But With weapons with them, missiles, launchers, rifles..
Mujahadeens are armed and they are doing propper jehad
and ISRALEIS are not innocent ppl. they elected war criminal ( a butcher ) as priminister to eliminate palesteinans women and children..
and u are stil calling them innocent?
I fel sorry for u indeed..
Dont think “you can” know “you can”
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ahem!
Author: Imaam Muhammad Naasir-ud Deen Al-Albaanee
Source: Upcoming SSNA Book “Al-Masjid al-Aqsa - The Path to Its Freedom”
Translator: SSNA Translation Committee al-manhaj.com
Chapter: The Fatwaa of the Muhaddith, Shaikh Muhammad Naasir-ud-Deen Al-Albaanee (rahimahullaah)
Question: It has is reported from your eminence that you do not sanction suicide missions. We therefore seek from you a clarification of the issue.
Answer: It is uniformly known amongst the Scholars that it is not permissible for a Muslim to commit suicide to relieve himself of a calamity "financial, painful illness that is terminal or any other thing that has befallen him. Suicide to relieve oneself from these types of hardships is without a doubt Haraam. There are Hadeeth reported in Saheeh Al-Bukhaaree and Muslim that imply that a person taking his own life by consuming poison or piercing himself or any other means (that result in his death) shall result in him being punished with that same mode of death until the Day of Resurrection. Some of the scholars have understood that the person who commits suicide dies as a Kaafir or an unbeliever since the one who commits such an act has malice and distain for His Lord because of the calamities he has faced without patience. Without a doubt, a (true) Muslim could never reach the level whereby he contemplates such a heinous act, let alone carry out the act of taking his own life. In most cases the individual who takes his own life is not a Mu‘min †"true believer. Yet it is conceivable that a Muslim may be affected by a contagious evil ideology that may lead him to commit suicide. It is conceivable that such an act could take place. Due to this we say with full conviction and certainty that he (the one who commits suicide) is not a true believer. This is similar to the one who abandons prayer out of Juhood (stubborn rejection) of its legislation and passes away a Muslim named Ahmad bin Muhammad. But if it was known that he denied/disavowed prayer then he is not to be buried within the Muslim burial ground. The same (conditions and verdict) is for the one who commits suicide and it becomes known that his suicide was due to malice and distain for His Lord because of the calamities he faced. We now turn our attention to suicide missions. These suicide missions became infamously known (around the world) because of the Japanese practice of Kamikaze. A man would hurl his warplane towards an American naval vessel, effectively destroying himself along with the plane and as many enemy soldiers as he could muster. All suicide missions in our current time are unsanctioned deeds that are all to be considered Haraam (prohibited). The suicide missions may be of the type that renders its practitioner eternally in the Fire or it could be the type that renders its practitioner to be from those who shall not reside eternally in the Fire as I have just explained. But to view these suicide missions as a being a means to draw near to Allaah (praiseworthy act of worship) by killing oneself today for his land or his country then we say No (it is not an act that is praiseworthy). These suicide missions are not Islamic – period! In fact I say today that which represents the Islamic reality – not the reality that is sought by a few of the (improperly) overly active Muslims – that there is no Jihaad in the Islamic lands at all. Surely there is combat in numerous Muslim countries, but there is no Jihaad that is established under a (solely) Islamic banner, and that is established upon Islamic regulations. From these (missing) regulations are that a soldier is not permitted to act as he (individually and singularly) wishes. He is not permitted to decide for himself what it is that he is to do. Rather he is to be bound to an order from a commander. In turn this commander is not an individual who claims the position (of leadership) for himself and makes himself commander. Rather the commander is delegated the authority from the Khaleefah of the Muslims. So where is the Khaleefah for the Muslims today? Where is the Khaleefah, or for that matter a ruler who raises (solely) the banner of Islaam and calls Muslims to draw near him and perform Jihaad in the way of Allaah (alone)? As long as (we affirm) that Jihaad, according to Islamic (regulations), must fulfill the prerequisite of it being (solely) under the banner of Islaam and (we find that) this banner does not have a commander (during the current era), then we (state) that an Islamic suicide is not permitted (as it is performed today). I am well aware of the fact that suicide was known in the past generations of those who fought with spears, swords and arrows. Some of the forms of that warfare resembled suicide (dueling to the death). Examples of this was when an individual would surge forward and face a large contingent of unbelievers and polytheists – striking them from the right and the left – and (all the while knowing) that few would escape this predicament safely. Therefore is that action permitted? We answer that at times it would be permitted and other times it would not be permitted. If the commander of the army is the Messenger of Allaah and he gave permission to that individual, then it is permitted for him. But for that individual to decide for himself then it is not permitted because it is considered a perilous, hazardous action (at the least) if we do not say that it is a gamble (as well). (Therefore) such an act is not permitted without the explicit order of the Muslim ruler or the Khaleefah of the Muslims. Why? What should be done is that the ruler or the Khaleefah should assess the situation with great care. He is the one who has the knowledge of when it is most appropriate to attack the enemy – 100 Muslims facing 1000 (or more or less of) the enemy. He is the one to order the advance, knowing that from them there may be tens who shall die, and knowing that the eventual victory is for the Muslims. Therefore when the commander of the army of Muslims – delegated that duty by the Muslim Khaleefah – orders a single soldier to employ a particular action from the contemporary means of suicide (missions during the battle) then this is to be considered Jihaad in the way of Allaah. But for a young man, blind (to the realities and intricacies of war) to decide on his own, - as we often hear – to climb the face of a mountain and enter into a fortified location used by the Jews and kill some of them and be killed in the process…what is the benefit of such a deed? These are solely individualized acts that do not have a positive consequential result that is benefiting to the Islamic Call. Therefore we say to the Muslim Youth, “Protect your lives, on the condition that you (use it) in learning your Deen and your Islaam. Become acquainted with it properly and act according to it to the best of your abilities.†This course of action and deed, slow and tedious as it may seem, is the deed that shall bear the desired fruit that is sought after by all Muslims, regardless of their varying ideologies and methodologies. All are in agreement that Islaam should be what (we use) to govern, but they dispute in the path (to that objective). Surely the best guidance is that of Muhammad.
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As long as brothers and sisters are willing to give up their lives the flame of Islam will remain alight in the hearts of millions of people. The attacks have continued to fail the Israeli strategic negotiations. We will not rest until we get the orginal borders back and the muslim lands are returned to their rightful owners. No scholars for dollars can say that it is an act of suicide, it is an act of martyrdom and may Allah give us all the same end.
Will someone please get some diaper rash ointment for Quasi, his face is getting red.
Its our Wits that make us MEN .... 'Braveheart'