I support Suicide bombing why....

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Originally posted by Serial Guppy:
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Author: Imaam Muhammad Naasir-ud Deen Al-Albaanee
Source: Upcoming SSNA Book "Al-Masjid al-Aqsa - The Path to Its Freedom"

Translator: SSNA Translation Committee al-manhaj.com

Chapter: The Fatwaa of the Muhaddith, Shaikh Muhammad Naasir-ud-Deen Al-Albaanee (rahimahullaah)

Question: It has is reported from your eminence that you do not sanction suicide missions. We therefore seek from you a clarification of the issue.

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Yo , ** Faraz *, this is from a * "WAHHABI" scholar *. Sheikh N. Al-Albaani (rah.), as the name suggests, was a great * Albanian "Wahhabi" ** Scholar, who spent a considerable part of his life in Saudi-Arabia, and recently passed away.

Would you care to ** comment ** Faraz??

Faraz wouldn’t comment on TRUTH. He is accustomed to hearing lies from zionist media and then he makes a fool out of him self by posting those false claims here.

Hey!

“wahabi” imam thinks Suicide bombing is haram according to Islamic shariah.

Faraz mir think Suicide bombings is haram.

Wow that makes both of them “wahabis” in a sense.

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Oh my god, what ignorance I am dealing with here!

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Thanks for posting that article from the scholar against suicide bombings. Proves my point perfectly and should bring an end to the matter. BTW, I’m sure that Sheikh is not considered a true Wahabi and probably thought of as a kafir by other “pure” Wahabis (like Quasidumbo who is apparently going through menopause).

The fight in Palestine is a secular nationalist fight. They are fighting for their land and home, but only very recently groups like Hamas and Islamic Jiahd have been using Islam and gaining popularity. They use Islam to say that suicide bombing is legitimate because in reality it is a good military tactic against Israel. But it is still completely un-Islamic. So much so, that even a Wahabi scholar could no longer speak lies about it!

Originally even Kashmir was such a nationalistic struggle, then came ISI and the Wahabis and the rest is history…

You all can support suicide bombings all you want, but just be aware that it is un-Islamic as has already been proven ten times.

So just repeat after me: “Suicide bombing is haram but Palestinians are using it for their own nationalistic reasons”.

As long as this is clear, and we don’t fool ourselves into thinking that it is Isalmically allowed, all is well.

And my point has been made.

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[This message has been edited by Faraz Mir (edited April 15, 2002).]

What drives a girl to...

RIYADH, Apr 8, 2002 -- "Another suicide bombing has taken place in Israel," said the TV announcer. "But this isn't just any suicide bomber. This time it is a young girl." What? A girl in her teens, yet to blossom and venture into life, has put her soul at the mercy of God. She blew herself up to try to calm her anger and frustration and to lessen her own pain and that of her people by killing some Israeli soldiers.

A girl? It boggles my mind that a girl my age, instead of going to parties and listing to music, has sacrificed her life. A girl - no offense at my going on and on that this was a girl - of course I'm into girl power and all that. But what would make her give up her life so definitely? Don't get me wrong, I'd do anything for my principles as long as it would pleases God and make our nation proud.

Of course talking is easy; anyone can sweet-talk their way into almost anything but actually to make a difference is something different. A very big difference for that matter and what was that something different? What were her motives? Were they hatred? Were they humiliation? Or did they spring from the need to prove a point?

As I ventured into more thoughts, a little boy about nine years old came on television. A Palestinian boy being dragged by three Israeli soldiers, while a couple of his relatives were also holding him. The poor boy, undoubtedly in a state of shock and terror, had eyes wide with fear. And his mother, his heart-broken mother, was hysterically crying as her son was being taken away. She was unable to do anything at all to help him!

What if he were my brother and those were my relatives and that poor woman were my mom? What if? What if?

NEWS FLASH. He IS my brother, my brother in Islam. How can I not feel their pain? How can I not share their misery? That Muslim Palestinian girl on TV is me, and every Muslim girl for that matter. She represents us, the strong, the caring, the courageous Muslims with everlasting faith that Palestine will sooner or later be freed.
*Source: Arab News *


**Rooh kee gehraai say niklee howee baat
Rooh kee gehraai tak zaroor jaai gee!!

Happy Souls Make A Community Happy!**

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Faraz, you ** NASTY LIAR ** !!! He is ** THE ** “WAHHABI” SCHOLAR

So much ** hatred for the Muslims ??? ** Even Andhra is more respectful than you are.

Btw, do not put us off by the grievances of your mom. We are not interested.

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No, when the ** baselessness of your hatred ** against the “WAhhabis” (** read “ISLAM” ** ) was exposed, you had no choice but to twist the facts and say what you said above.

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Suicide bombers are ** NOT ** WAhhabis.. Ask any Palestinian or Lebanese.

What point???

My points for the blind and rigid Wahabis:

1) Suicide Bombing is un-Islamic. It may be a great tactic against Israelis and you many even feel emotionally attached to Palestinians participating in this, but it is till not Islamic.

2) Wahabism is not equal to Islam. Islam is much much greater and larger then Wahabism.

3) Wahabism is narrow minded and intolerant interpretation of Islam and goes against fundamental teachings of Islam. Evidence for this can be seen in various links I have posted in other threads.

Thanks about it.

My points for the blind and rigid Wahabis:

1) Suicide Bombing is un-Islamic. It may be a great tactic against Israelis and you many even feel emotionally attached to Palestinians participating in this, but it is till not Islamic.

**"Wahabis" also believe that. Where did a "wahabi" say that suicide bombing is halal?*

2) Wahabism is not equal to Islam. Islam is much much greater and larger then Wahabism.

*"wahabism" (according to "their" books) say that we should follow the SUNNAH of PROPHET(pbuH) and QURAN. Is that considered wrong in your circle of hate? I know, enemies of Islam consider that wrong and would do whatever you are doing to discredit such people who say we need to follow the SUNNAH and QUran. You are exactly doing what enemies of Islam would want you to.

3) Wahabism is narrow minded and intolerant interpretation of Islam and goes against fundamental teachings of Islam. Evidence for this can be seen in various links I have posted in other threads.

**Again, statements so far from truth and so close to lie that even lies are ashamed. Where does it say that "wahabism" is intolerant, and is against the teachings of islam. It maybe against the teachings of "hinduislam"(peer fakeers, tavees ganda, praying to saints and graves for help and bowing down to them instead of ONE ALLAH, believing in superstitions and magic...etc.) that you follow but it is not against fundamental teachings of islam because books of Abdul wahab(which you never read or heard of...) are based upon sahi books of bukhari and Muslim and on Quran.
I am not surprised at you not providing any evidence because there isn't any. "Wahabism" does not teaching intolerance there is no proof of that or sign of that in books of abdul wahab. You are only repeating lies and distorted facts which you leart from enemies of islam and western media.
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Thanks about it.

***No, THINK about it. Think about creating love and peace among sects of islam rather than creating more and attributing lies to other people just so that you can sit back and watch others fight and kill themselves. THINK about what Quran says about people who divide Islam in sects and people who tell lies just for their own personal agenda and to creat more hate in the society. THINK about it if you are able to.


What is "hinduislam"? What you and friends consider “hinduislam” is the actual religon that people of Sindh, Punjab and Kashmir have been following for thousands of years. What gives YOU the right to declare it “hinduislam” or not? What is wrong with Sufism? Why are Wahabis mentally upset when they see other Muslims practicing Sufism?

Most people of present-day Pakistan and India converted to ISalm becuase of Sufi saints? It was not because of rigid Wahabi Jihadis.

The fundamental mistake Wahabism makes is to remove mysticism from Islam. Without tawasyim, there would not be so many Muslims in India, and thus no Pakistan!

And your statement proves that Wahabis are intolerant. They have declared Sufis as kafir, Ahmedis as kafir, Shias as kafir, barelvis as kafir, and soon Hanafis will also be declared kafir.

That is the only accomplishment of Wahabsim. Declaring everyone else but themselves as kafir.

I would have been ok with Wahabism, ONLY if they constantly didn’t shove it down the throats of other Muslims. God save us if Wahabis are successful in declaring their brand of sharia on Pakistan. First thing they will do is burn down every shrine or tomb and kill anyone who resists.

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Originally posted by FlameZz:
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and ISRALEIS are not innocent ppl. they elected war criminal ( a butcher ) as priminister to eliminate palesteinans women and children..

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You can't really mean that. I do not support anything the Israeli government is doing, but at the same time the Israeli people are for the most part innocent. They elect the prime minister, but what about the children, the people that didn't vote him in? George Bush was elected president, I am American, but I didn't vote for him.

Brenda


Hope for the best, prepare for the worst!!!

What is "hinduislam"? What you and friends consider “hinduislam” is the actual religon that people of Sindh, Punjab and Kashmir have been following for thousands of years. What gives YOU the right to declare it “hinduislam” or not? What is wrong with Sufism? Why are Wahabis mentally upset when they see other Muslims practicing Sufism?

Hinduism because people have adopted hindu related rituals as way of worship rather than following whats in SUNNAH and QURAN as far as worship is concered. And "wahabis" stop you from incoorperating hindu rituals into islam as ways of worship and then you people don't like it because your elders use to do it.

Most people of present-day Pakistan and India converted to ISalm becuase of Sufi saints? It was not because of rigid Wahabi Jihadis.

Where did I say that "wahabis" converted them? If you study those saints(the saints on whose name you people give khatams and feasts on 11th of every month...) were followers of SUNNAH and Quran("wahabis"), yet you do hindu-ana related nonsense just to please them by going to their graves and praying to them..instead of ALLAH. Thats what "wahabis" want you to stop and you can't let of rituals your elders did.

The fundamental mistake Wahabism makes is to remove mysticism from Islam. Without tawasyim, there would not be so many Muslims in India, and thus no Pakistan!

** Please explain what Islam(quran and SUNNAH) say about mysticism. And refernces to "wahabi" removal of it.**

And your statement proves that Wahabis are intolerant. They have declared Sufis as kafir, Ahmedis as kafir, Shias as kafir, barelvis as kafir, and soon Hanafis will also be declared kafir.

** I have, and I don't even know about it? You must be a mind reader? SHOW ME WHERE I HAVE "DECLARED" qadiyaanis kafir, shias kafir, brailvies kafir(that bothers you doesn't it? yet you are here declaring other people kafir, talk about hypocrisy.). I have been saying ALL along, its UP TO ALLAH TO DECIDE WHO IS MUSLIM and WHO IS NOT. SHOW ME WHERE DID I DECLARE THEM KAFIRS? YOU LIAR!**

That is the only accomplishment of Wahabsim. Declaring everyone else but themselves as kafir.

You are the one declaring "wahabis" kafir, how is that a good thing? Anyone who reads kalima is a Muslim, yet here you are declaring "wahabis" kafirs but they say kalima, preach what is in SUNNAH and QURAN. Aren't you ashamed of telling lies and being a prime hypocrite? Aren't you ashamed that you lack no credibility in lies and disinformation? You will always remain a hypocrite, a sad, crying, full of hate hypocrite.

I would have been ok with Wahabism, ONLY if they constantly didn’t shove it down the throats of other Muslims. God save us if Wahabis are successful in declaring their brand of sharia on Pakistan. First thing they will do is burn down every shrine or tomb and kill anyone who resists.

*You are wrong. For your ignorant, hate-filled mind, read SURAH maidah: It says NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION. No force. But its duty of EVERY MUSLIM to stop evil and spread GOOD. Making shrines and bowing down to them(graves), A BIG SIN is haram and we Muslims should STOP people from adapting the ways of kufr. Building shrines is against SUNNAH of the prophet and bowing down to them is against principles of QURAN. *

I find it shocking that anyone would support suicide bombing. While I can understand the frustration of the Palestinen people, I can not condon the killing of innocent people that have nothing to do with their problems.

Two wrongs really don't add up to a right.

I do not think there is a religion on Earth that would allow suicide. According to the Christian religion, it is one of the unforgiven sins, because of the simple fact, that once you are died, you can not ask for forgiveness of the sin.

Brenda


Hope for the best, prepare for the worst!!!

Oh, So that’s what U USE when UR FACE GET RED

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I can see U HAVE BEEN USING SO MUCH DIAPER RASH OINTMENT LATELY

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I Guess that’s why U GOT A RED EYE

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N.B: IGNORANCE CAN KILL THE BRAIN AND UR THE SECOND LIVING PROOF!!


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The FOOL is the ILLITERATE.
No opinion has he to inject.
Just one of the numerous time-wasters.
Drifting aimlessly in the WISDOM STORM. **

Great article on the subject: http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=14377

Yeah… no “wahabi” in there, how could you!!! You betrayed your masters, you didn’t post something with lies and bashing against “wahabis,” oh faraz what have you done!

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Great article FROM a “wahabi” site: http://www.allaahuakbar.net/scholars/albaani/suicide_bombing.htm

Faraz’s lies and disinformation shattered. Although, he will be back with more.

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OH WAIT, look what another well known, popular “wahabi” site says about suicide bombings:
http://islamicity.com/qa/action.lasso?-db=Services&-lay=Ask&-error=error.shtml&-max=25&-format=Topics.shtml&-op=cn&Topic=suicide+bombing&-op=eq&Answer_flag=X&-Sortfield=Topic&-find

If page does not load, search for “suicide bombing” in the search area under Q&As.

Again, credibility of Faraz Mir now went to minus 10 because he has been saying that “wahabis” are for suicide bombings and here are “wahabi” imams and molvies declaring that “hey suicide bombing is wrong according to SUNAH and Quran…” but since faraz has some personal problem with them, he only knows how to spread lies and make up lies and how to beleive lies. He is not a FACT oriented person, as he has proven over and over again.