If I were in their place, I would've done the very same thing. Even though suicide bombing will be considered haram- sometimes circumstances drive us to such a position where we no longer wish to differentiate between the right and the wrong.
It is instead our duty to unite the Ummah instead of creating further divisions. Please dont start any more propaganda against the Jews. ITS US WHO SHOULD UNITE UNDER ONE BANNER- and make sure that no muslim in this world is harmed.
But hey- we can only do that once we're done with burning shia/sunni mosques. Telling the world about who WE think is shia/sunni. After calling a fork a fork. After spreading hatred against a whole nation instead of the responsible 'FEW' who are in the authoratative position.
So- the question now isn't about whether religion or WE should condemn/allow suicide bombing, its about when we get out of this hate cycle.
[This message has been edited by Ace (edited April 08, 2002).]
Quasimodo, I don't care what your fanatical friend asked for or not. Suicide is haraam. Killing innceont people is haraam. Those who commit these acts will burn in hell inshallah.
If you don't believe me, go ahead and commit sucide. Then if we indeed endup in paardise, I will accept my error.
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Originally posted by Faraz Mir:
**Quasimodo, I don't care what your fanatical friend asked for or not. Suicide is haraam. Killing innceont people is haraam. Those who commit these acts will burn in hell inshallah.
If you don't believe me, go ahead and commit sucide. Then if we indeed endup in paardise, I will accept my error.**
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Dear U R Getting Hyper Again. In all this excitement U forgot to answer my question which was and I quote "Would U be kind enough to explain the difference between Backbitting and Slander Of character from Islamic point of view? What Our Prophet has to say about it?" PLEASE THIS TIME ANSWER IT INSTEAD OF JUMPING AROUND ALL OVER THE PLACE.
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The person you had a crush on in your adolescense, and who appeared curt and dismissive towards you, was merely playing "HARD TO GET". This person continius to add to a drawer full of love letters written to you, but not yet sent.**
Faraz mir totally has a valid point.
In the quran Allah Himself stated that he will test us with alot of harships(can anyone quote the ayah relating sabar)
and it's upto us how we do the test and definitely suicide bombing is not the solution as it is totally forbidden regardless of any circumstances.
we all understand what palesteninas are going thru and they should show sabar instead of blowing themself along with innocent civilians,Inshallah they will be granted a place in Jannah for being so tolerant.
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Originally posted by sherrybaba: Faraz mir totally has a valid point.
In the quran Allah Himself stated that he will test us with alot of harships(can anyone quote the ayah relating sabar)
and it's upto us how we do the test and definitely suicide bombing is not the solution as it is totally forbidden regardless of any circumstances.
we all understand what palesteninas are going thru and they should show sabar instead of blowing themself along with innocent civilians,Inshallah they will be granted a place in Jannah for being so tolerant.
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*definitely suicide bombing is not the solution as it is totally forbidden regardless *
The whole POINT of this thread was to let us know the ALTERATIVE CHOICES, IF ANY, NOT ARGUING SUICIDE IS HARAM OR HALAL!!!!!!.
what palesteninas are going thru and they should show sabar
PLEASE TELL ME U R KIDDING, RIGHT??
So U WANT THEM TO SABAR LIKE BOSNIAN MUSLIMS, RIGHT??
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I am still awaiting the answer to what we are actually fighting for:
1) No Jews in the world?
2) No Jews in Middle East?
3) Jews are ok but no Jewish State?
4) No Jews in the occupied terretories according to the Oslo agreement of creation of a Palestinian state?
5) As long as Jews don't do any more settelments we are ok?
Flamezz and others, here is an article for all to read. Pretty much justifies the desperate measures taken by the desperate people. http://www.counterpunch.com/
[This message has been edited by Serial Guppy (edited April 08, 2002).]
Suicide bombings have degraded the reputation of the Palestinian people in the eyes of the world. That is why the world stands by idle as they are being dominated.
Suicide bombers may win a small battle here and there but they are causing the Palestinians to loose the War.
Only problem is that American Indians are NOT Muslims. We have to answer to a higher power, not to the Buffalos spirit. No offence to any American Indians.
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Originally posted by MMike:
**Suicide bombings have degraded the reputation of the Palestinian people in the eyes of the world. That is why the world stands by idle as they are being dominated.
Suicide bombers may win a small battle here and there but they are causing the Palestinians to loose the War.
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Exactly why Islam condemns such acts that put Muslims in bad light, take innocent life, and encourages others to retaliate and kill more Muslims. All three things are happeneing today becuase Muslims no longer follow their own teachings.
Logically, morally and Islamically, suicide bombings are wrong. The only argument, the Hammas/Islamic Jihad apoligists can come up with is that Palestinians don't have any other options, thus they must blatantly disobey Allah's orders!
Hey, I have no personal problem with Palestinian millitants killing innocent Israelis or using suicide bombings to further their cause (eventhough it doesn't), but when do it in the name of Islam, they bring down my religion with their actions.
Same with Al-Qaida, thus it is my responsibility to tell the ill-informed that suicide is a sin in Islam. Much of the reason some Muslims support these suicide bombings is purely because of emotional reasons. They just feel sorry for the Palestinains, and so do I, but I try to control my emotions, and see the truth, though it is hard for me too sometimes.
Read the article again it doesn’t talk about “buffalos spirits” or “higher power,” it talks about common despair and the will to fight back, somehow/someway when much of the world turns the blind eye on you. You raise a point which is completely irrelevant to the discussion of this thread. Lets try again.
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Allah’s orders on Muslims are not relevent? Common despaur, the will to fight back are all good and nice, but nothing to do with how a Muslim should or should not act. What makes a Muslim a Muslim? Common disapair or Allah’s will?
So, tell me why a Muslim should support the Palestinains over the Israelis? Just because the pals call themselves Muslim, or should I judge them by their actions or the injustice of their situation as well?
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