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[_Pagli]

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@KashmiriRainDrops

Listen any girl that believes a liar and thinks that theres the slightest chance he loves her, deserves it, doesnt she?

Ermm, NO! In some relationships u just can’t tell…u go into it and form a trust, that trust is always gona be there UNTIL it is broken…so of course she is gona believe him, UNTIL she has a reason not to! It’s horrible to think that someone deserves that, just cos they didn’t see it (something they cudn’t possibly have known) coming.

And I have NO reason to respect her! WHY should she forget and forgive? I say find out where his fiance lives, send her all the emails, gifts or any other kinda proof she has to show how shes been cheated on. Hes not playing with one girl, hes doing it to two! I bet he tells his fiance he loves her! And if shes gonna sit around worry about her sorry a$$ than thats wta shes gonna get from me.

Ok so a girl doesn’t deserve respect just cos she was madly in love and couldn’t have possibly known wot this guy was hiding from her, come off it! She *should *forget him cos he’s obviously not worth spending her time thinking of him, and she should forgive him as well as herself…that’s the only way she will truly be free of all this crap and heal and move on with her life. Yep, he is playing with 2 girls, and yea i’m sure he tells his fiancee he loves her too…but there’s no point proving it to anyone and wasting even more time on this wanka…best thing to do in my opinion, forgive him, forgive urself and move on…although she’ll never forget him, she can stop thinking about him and look to the future.

So yea tell her to stoop down low cuz guys liek that are scum of the earth, no matter how low u stoop u can never get to that level. ANd tell the fiance everything! Screw the guy as much as she can!

I don’t agree, y shud she stoop down to that level…then she only becomes as bad as him…wot is telling the fiancee gonna do? nothing at all…let God judge him, and give him wot He thinks this guy deserves.

it seems like u really are seeing it the way it is…otherwise, no one seems to understand it thoroughly…majority blames the girl which is not fair…thanks once again sweetheart.

[_Pagli]

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@sac

sounds like my deja vu
well…the guy might have feelings for her…but what good is love if you can sacrifice for it ? if he can’t take a stand for her
that guy is ruining two lives…three actually…his, hers and of her ‘to-be wife’ as well
Tell the gal to leave him … and stop thinking about him. If he really loved her enough..then he would not have left her. Plus that guy is a cheat as well, when U said he’s been engaged for a year and a half…if my maths is correct then he would have been dating her less than a year after his engagement…
This thing should’n’t have been started in the first place…
but now that it has begun…tell the gal to get rid of him..his thought…his feelings and anyother thing that reminds her of him

i totally agree with ya…i m trying my best to get her out of this situation asap…i just need to spend more time with her…i m sure that’ll help.

[_Pagli]

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@hiccup

As funky as you are, this reeks suspiously of immaturity and an acute lack of social awareness.

If I too was in the mood for unnecessary bluntness I’d call it childish bull****.

thanx

[Masoomlarki]

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when you love someone u only see the positives u never see any flaws in that person. she just needs time. a year on she will look back what da hek ...and will probs think how much she learnt from this mistake. he is a confused guy . or just playing . he wont be given the benefit of the doubt as far as girls are concerned, they will obviously say he is just playing . guys in ur defence id like to hear any reasonable logic behind it all

[_Tikhi_Jalebi]

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@KashmiriRainDrops

Ermm, NO! In some relationships u just can’t tell…u go into it and form a trust, that trust is always gona be there UNTIL it is broken…so of course she is gona believe him, UNTIL she has a reason not to! It’s horrible to think that someone deserves that, just cos they didn’t see it (something they cudn’t possibly have known) coming.

I meant why does she still wonder whether he loves her for real AFTER she found out he lied to her? Isnt it kinda obvious?

**Ok so a girl doesn’t deserve respect just cos she was madly in love and couldn’t have possibly known wot this guy was hiding from her, come off it! She should forget him cos he’s obviously not worth spending her time thinking of him, and she should forgive him as well as herself…that’s the only way she will truly be free of all this crap and heal and move on with her life. Yep, he is playing with 2 girls, and yea i’m sure he tells his fiancee he loves her too…but there’s no point proving it to anyone and wasting even more time on this wanka…best thing to do in my opinion, forgive him, forgive urself and move on…although she’ll never forget him, she can stop thinking about him and look to the future.

She does know now, right? She knows hes playing another girl, doesnt she owe it to her? Atleast let the poor thing know shes about to ruin her life?I think its her responsibility almost. How would u like it if some girl knew u n ur fiance but didnt bother telling you what went on between them knowing hes playing u too? I understand you cant help falling in love or falling out of it BUT you should know when to let go. Its not that i dont respect her cuz she fell in love its because shes not doing anything about a guy who treated her like crap. Women shouldnt be weak.

I don’t agree, y shud she stoop down to that level…then she only becomes as bad as him…wot is telling the fiancee gonna do? nothing at all…let God judge him, and give him wot He thinks this guy deserves.

Telling the fiancee will hopefully let the guy know he isnt gonna get away with playin all the time. Inshallah Allah will punish him but she needs to do osmething about it too. Its because of girls like you guys think they can get away with anything.

kkkkk

[_Tikhi_Jalebi]

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@hiccup

As funky as you are, this reeks suspiously of immaturity and an acute lack of social awareness.

If I too was in the mood for unnecessary bluntness I’d call it childish bull****.

Oh wait let me respect and speak nice words for women who go out with other women’s fiances.
And I didnt realize from the first post that he hadnt told her that from the start.

[KashmiriRainDrops]

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@~Tikhi Jalebi~

kkkkk

No it’s not always obvious…she’s in love with him, still…she wants to hang on the the memories she created with him…maybe she’s still in shock…she wonders if he still loves her cos he’s a human being and perhaps he made a mistake and maybe he can’t leave his fiancee for her (even though we know he can)…this is wot goes thru her mind…not ok, he lied to me… lemme erase everything else that went on with us…

     She doesn't owe the girl anything...it's *his* fault, y shud she do his dirty work for him? She doesn't know wot is going on in their relationship, she doesn't know if the fiancee already knows that her man is a cheater...maybe she's already been thru this with him before...it's not rite for the "other woman" to get involved...most women already know; they won't admit it but they know...the fiancee is not her family, not her friend, not even an aquaintence...she won't know the outcome of her exposing him, it mite not even make her feel better...she is just gonna mess things up even more than *he* has already...I would stay out of the whole situation...the guy will eventually mess up his own relationship with his fiancee by his own means, without her interferring...going up to that girl wanting to relieve some of *her pain *is one thing, but meeting with her to give her a "tell all" session is not the way to do it. She needs to just get on with her life cos she has no clue wot his fiancee knows or does not know....besides, she doesn't know how the girl will react...she may not even believe her, and i'm quite sure she won't say "thank you for letting me know" and give a big hug! Or she maybe the type to gossip and start rumours about her even! We just don't know, so it's better to stay away from him and his life with her...definately don't think the fiancee wud appreciate it, and who knows maybe he has confessed already and they r working out their problems...and if i was the fiancee in this situation? Yes, i wud want to know wot he had done...*but by his own admission, not by some girl*...if he never tells me then, oh well he has God to answer to and be afraid of not me. And wot is she supposed to do about a guy who treated her like crap? If we go equaling the pain he put her thru to an action she wud do to teach him a lesson, not even burning his house, telling everybody wot he did or slashing his tyres would equal to the agony she is feeling...there's no use, it's *his* responsibility to fess up, not hers. Her walking away from this situation with her head up, is not being weak...it takes COURAGE...if she goes up to the fiancee, it may even look like she's feeling guilty, and knew he was engaged and is just trying to take a stab at him and/or she's jealous. Cheating is sometimes a sign of a bigger problem, she shud stay out of it and let them manage their own relationship.

As for saying that it’s girls like me who let guys think they can get away with anything…u don’t know me, so i think u shud stick with giving ur “advice” and not attempt to take a personal attack on who u think i am…we are here to help her (Pagli), so let her decide wot she thinks is best for her friend…it’s not rite to judge me especially since u don’t know where i’m coming from.

[KashmiriRainDrops]

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@~Pagli~

it seems like u really are seeing it the way it is…otherwise, no one seems to understand it thoroughly…majority blames the girl which is not fair…thanks once again sweetheart.

Ur very welcome

[sac]

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I won't be surprized if he blames HER in the end...

[KashmiriRainDrops]

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Let’s hope not.

[sac]

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^^ seriously yar..it happened to a friend of mine..
the girl left him after a year
later she tried to get back
by that time he was finally over her
and then she blamed him that he was a cheat and was not getting back because he was fed up of her

[sac]

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@faizy

give her time to grief… and give her some room… she will be awrite.. 5 years from now, both of you will look back and smile at these ‘lil things’ in life.. (believe me, i’ve been there)

5 years is a long time
If a relationship ends on a good note then it might take a long time
but in this case…I think she’d be over him in less than 5 m onths
though she’d never be able to forget him altogether but this thing won’t bother her after a few months

months !!
not years

[KashmiriRainDrops]

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@sac

^^ seriously yar..it happened to a friend of mine..
the girl left him after a year
later she tried to get back
by that time he was finally over her
and then she blamed him that he was a cheat and was not getting back because he was fed up of her

I bet…i swear some ppl! I guess it stems from jealousy and pride…she probably wanted to have the last word and be the one to dump him, instead she had to resort to calling him a cheat (dunno if he was, but wotever)…i had a friend (girl) who did that once too…i was so sick of her playing with these guys…the last guy i knew of was so sweet and i knew he didn’t deserve her treating him the way she was…anyway, since i was her friend (unfortunately) i had to stay out of it but was happy when he dumped her! Hmm, i’m so glad i’m not friends with her anymore

[KashmiriRainDrops]

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@sac

5 years is a long time
If a relationship ends on a good note then it might take a long time
but in this case…I think she’d be over him in less than 5 m onths
though she’d never be able to forget him altogether but this thing won’t bother her after a few months

months !!
not years

Sometimes it does take a year or more though…but wot relationships end on a good note? I thought parting ways was always bad…

[sac]

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exactly...thats why I say..therez never a 'happy ending'... but some ppl still blv in it

[KashmiriRainDrops]

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^ No i just meant that if ur ending a relationship, then it usually isn’t on a happy note cos obvioulsy something went wrong, that’s y ur breaking up yea…but if u mean like, ur in a relationship and think u still won’t be happy “’ 'til the end” then that’s another thing…me personally, i don’t really believe that in love u live happily ever after…cos life is not a fairytale…and i think true love has no ending…ppl believe in it cos that is wot keeps us going, the mystery of it, the hope

[Aashi]

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he shudnt have bin goin out with her if he was engaged....'mungni is known as half nikha in our world'...n was she dumb enuf not to have found that out earlier?....to know he is committed to sumone else...have bin spending time her, will be spending time with her in future....didnt she get jealous at the thought of it?.....didnt she hate him for that?....and NO its not bloody called love....GROW UP the lot of u and smell the coffee....

:p

[KashmiriRainDrops]

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@Aashi

he shudnt have bin goin out with her if he was engaged…‘mungni is known as half nikha in our world’…n was she dumb enuf not to have found that out earlier?..to know he is committed to sumone else…have bin spending time her, will be spending time with her in future…didnt she get jealous at the thought of it?..didnt she hate him for that?..and NO its not bloody called love…GROW UP the lot of u and smell the coffee…

  :p

Yea i think we all agree that he *shudn’t *have gone out with her, but he did…and how exactly was she supposed to find out earlier? He was obviously bloody good at hiding it from her…wot is she supposed to do, become a private investigator and snoop around or some crazy stuff like that!? I mean probably only psychos do that…He gave her no reason to doubt him, to be suspicious…he lied to her, it’s not her fault at all…“*didn’t she get jealous at the thought of it?” *ermm, no! She didn’t even know until he told her that he was engaged and that was when the prick was dumping the poor girl… yea ok he was “committed” to someone else the guy is a player…of course after she found out, she was devastated and heartbroken BUT she was in love with him…how do u know it wasn’t love! Only she knows that, and that’s y she is heartbroken like any normal person wud be after being betrayed.

[_Pagli]

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@KashmiriRainDrops

Yea i think we all agree that he *shudn’t *have gone out with her, but he did…and how exactly was she supposed to find out earlier? He was obviously bloody good at hiding it from her…wot is she supposed to do, become a private investigator and snoop around or some crazy stuff like that!? I mean probably only psychos do that…He gave her no reason to doubt him, to be suspicious…he lied to her, it’s not her fault at all…“*didn’t she get jealous at the thought of it?” *ermm, no! She didn’t even know until he told her that he was engaged and that was when the prick was dumping the poor girl… yea ok he was “committed” to someone else the guy is a player…of course after she found out, she was devastated and heartbroken BUT she was in love with him…how do u know it wasn’t love! Only she knows that, and that’s y she is heartbroken like any normal person wud be after being betrayed.

u know what…u won my heart 4ever:) Thank you for your moon torh jawabaat to ppl that are not able to see whats going on here and they just want to be mean for no reason.

[_Pagli]

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@sac

exactly…thats why I say..therez never a ‘happy ending’… but some ppl still blv in it

i agree sac…love doent always end with happiness…infact most of the time the ending is sad…heartbreaking and depressing