Re: I don't want my kids growing up in Pakistan...
Interesting. I don't even live in Pakistan and I know of a lot of people who drink, from people in the army to med school students. And smoking? I know of girls who smoke and do weed, let alone the guys. My cousin's uncle was run over and the person who did it didn't even stop to see what he had done, he died before reaching the hospital.
and if you wanna see the gamblers just go to anarkali (they call numbers to lottery), and also Pakistan and india are famous for sattaybazi (betting) so don't say it's something alien to Pakistanis....you can also include the offers on tv through ads (buy pepsi ki bottle and win a car etc).
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My husband is from Pakistan and there was never any question to live there. His plan was actually to settle in the US but I told him I would prefer to stay in the UK. While just thinking about it, a lot of the reasons for me not to want to settle in either country are the same but I can't be bothered to go through them now.
What did pop into my mind though, is that I do not want to bring up my kids in a place where university age people (I'd like to say adults but they don't act like it) are behaving in a disgusting way and think it's perfectly acceptable to mentally and physically abuse those younger and weaker than them; the so-called tradition of fooling. It seems that the weaker and smaller you are, the more abuse you will get. Hopefully, it's only a minority, although it seems prolific from what I have heard and swept under the carpet or giggled away.
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Behes kis baat ki hai? To those who choose to live abroad, good for you. Don't just come back when you are in need, that is really pathetic, stick to one country! And i say the same for those living here, dont matter come hell or worse, stay here for good live with all kinds of conditions that come here and try your best to better them dont just run away.
Re: I don't want my kids growing up in Pakistan...
My husband is from Pakistan and there was never any question to live there. His plan was actually to settle in the US but I told him I would prefer to stay in the UK. While just thinking about it, a lot of the reasons for me not to want to settle in either country are the same but I can't be bothered to go through them now.
What did pop into my mind though, is that I do not want to bring up my kids in a place where university age people (I'd like to say adults but they don't act like it) are behaving in a disgusting way and think it's perfectly acceptable to mentally and physically abuse those younger and weaker than them; the so-called tradition of fooling. It seems that the weaker and smaller you are, the more abuse you will get. Hopefully, it's only a minority, although it seems prolific from what I have heard and swept under the carpet or giggled away.
At my niece's first day in kinnaird college, some senior girls robbed her off, took her money and mobile and made her do dancing. It happens in army schools as well.
Re: I don't want my kids growing up in Pakistan...
Behes kis baat ki hai? To those who choose to live abroad, good for you. Don't just come back when you are in need, that is really pathetic, stick to one country! And i say the same for those living here, dont matter come hell or worse, stay here for good live with all kinds of conditions that come here and try your best to better them dont just run away.
Oh dear.
Some of us were BORN abroad and yes we can choose to live where we want. Tenu ki.
Re: I don't want my kids growing up in Pakistan...
Interesting. I don't even live in Pakistan and I know of a lot of people who drink, from people in the army to med school students. And smoking? I know of girls who smoke and do weed, let alone the guys. My cousin's uncle was run over and the person who did it didn't even stop to see what he had done, he died before reaching the hospital.
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did i not say the same thing,
you said "don't come here when you are in need" and "no matter what stay here for good...". It's not the same thing as saying, "some people have the option to choose". I'm just pointing out the fact, nothing personal.
You don't rule other people's life and you don't let others rule your life, as simple as that.
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you said "don't come here when you are in need" and "no matter what stay here for good...". It's not the same thing as saying, "some people have the option to choose". I'm just pointing out the fact, nothing personal.
Well obviously i am no one to stop anyone from doing whatever they want to do, i was only saying its really odd to hate/abuse a country all your life and then in the end pack up your bori bistra and head for the same country after realising your never ending love for it. I think that's hypocritical .And i said the same for the pakistanis leaving here who leave for west when there is some trouble here, so its nt like i have anything against the people living in west.
Re: I don't want my kids growing up in Pakistan...
Well obviously i am no one to stop anyone from doing whatever they want to do, i was only saying its really odd to hate/abuse a country all your life and then in the end pack up your bori bistra and head for the same country after realising your never ending love for it. I think that's hypocritical .And i said the same for the pakistanis leaving here who leave for west when there is some trouble here, so its nt like i have anything against the people living in west.
I don't think anyone is hating or abusing any country, we're only stating the reason for not raising our kids in Pakistan, there are a lot of good things about the country and the society but we don't feel it's the best place for our children...I personally think UK is not the best country to raise kids either and I'd like to move to a better place if had the option.
For me, my kids come first then my country (Pakistan) or my husband's country (UK).
Re: I don't want my kids growing up in Pakistan...
I don't think anyone is hating or abusing any country, we're only stating the reason for not raising our kids in Pakistan, there are a lot of good things about the country and the society but we don't feel it's the best place for our children...
Fair enough, its everyone choice to pick what they find best for their kids or their own self. However i would have real issues with these same people if at times of their kids marriage, the pick girls/boys from back home. And no i am not talking about you here because you might not do that but don't alot of people do it? isnt that weird? if you want your kids to be brought up here then why pick somebody from same background? doesnt make sense 2 me. So my post was for those such people and even you can't deny that they don't exisist.
My sister’s house has been robbed two times on gun point , I was robbed on gun point , my nieces and nephews were robbed on gun point , my friends have been robbed on gun point. My friend was was told to pay millions of rupees otherwise his daughters will be abducted .
What kind of safety is guaranteed for my family ?
In a country where common people can hang two young men for suspicion of robbery without any trial , in a country where people dig graves and eat dead bodies, in a country where a guy could kill 100 kids and then confess for doing so what good can I expect for my family.
In a country where 10 to 35 people are being killed because they speak a different language what is hope for my family ?
Provide me some safety , security and metal peace I will move back and would not even care if the mosquitoes have so strong wings that high speed fan cannot deter them from stinging you.
I will not care if I will have 16 hours of load shedding. I will not care to travel in a bus which will be so over loaded that you cannot even breath and someone would like to smoke a cigarette.
I will not care if sewage system is so bad that I will have to go on a cockroach killing spree in my own kitchen every two weeks.
I will not care if I my kids get mauled by army of stray dogs in my own street and neighborhood.
I will not care if I will have to stand in a long line to pay my electricity bill which I did not use.
I will not care if an army of beggars will attack my car on each traffic signal.
I am ready to make all those compromises but when it comes to safety and security of my kids I cannot make any compromise.
Re: I don't want my kids growing up in Pakistan...
However i would have real issues with these same people if at times of their kids marriage, the pick girls/boys from back home. And no i am not talking about you here because you might not do that but don't alot of people do it? isnt that weird? if you want your kids to be brought up here then why pick somebody from same background? doesnt make sense 2 me. So my post was for those such people and even you can't deny that they don't exisist.
Think it in a positive way , this provides a chance to those boys and girls for a better life than the one they already have . Those boys and girls who marry overseas Pakistanis do it willingly otherwise who would in their right mind will be willing to leave their parents , friends and a country and go live in strange place where they know nobody and have to start to build their lives from scratch.
Same goes for those who left the country and chose to go live abroad.
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There is NO denying you said shoes are more (if not most) important. I quoted you!
Hareem, 'ahmiyyat' means importance right?
This is where one needs to look at the topic through the eyes of the person who made the statement ... If I was a girl, fashion conscious and a bit consumer led then I wouldn't question the selective understanding here .... Unless of course you see me as one who sees shoes as a fashion statement rather than to fulfil a functional purpose ... The first thing I thought of after reading your highlighted text from my quote was that - "does Milly think I'm in to drag or something?" perish the thought. :)
ok carry on, menu ki 
