I am not a happy camper these days [split]

So, I watched the movie, The Other Boleyn Girl, yesterday and I enjoyed it. Being the nerd (I prefer the word intellectual :snooty: ) that I am, I’m going to do some research and to verify the historical contents of the movie. The life of King Henry the 8th is interesting. I think King Henry (according to the movie) was as pompous, selfish, womanizing, donkey-hole.

Disappointed at the birth of only daughters, he married one woman after the other in his quest for the birth of a son, or heir to the throne. Other times, he didn’t marry the woman at all, it was purely lust. The ironic thing is that the ONLY woman who produced a son for him…he never married her. So that son was illegitimate and couldn’t ever be heir to the throne. This woman was named Mary Boelyn (Anne Boelyn’s sister). Shocking isn’t it? Anyhow, Anne starting putting the moves on King Henry. The King only wanted to sleep with Anne and her teasing and playing hard to get was a novel concept to him (as no other woman had ever tried it) and that just drove him wild with desire. He wanted to “have her” and she placed a condition that he could “have her” if only he married her.

TO fulfill the condition, Henry the Horrible, got rid of his one and only wife Catherine. Yes, Anne was wicked. But she paid a heavy price after marrying the king. See, she gave birth to a daughter and that turned King Henry off toward her. Anne became pregnant again but had a miscarriage. She was so afraid that the King would kill her if he found out about the miscarriage that she turned to her OWN BROTHER to make her pregnant. Yes, that’s right! WHAT GOOD IS DRAMA WITHOUT INCEST? Well, thankfully, they NEVER did anything. But the brother’s wife thought he had slept with his sister…so she reported him to the King. THe brother was beheaded…although he was innocent. Anne Boelyn was charged with incest and other crimes against the King and court. Although she was innocent, she was found guilty and accepted the convictions. She accepted the fate of being beheaded. It was SAAAD! But what goes around comes around.

Anyhoo, here’s another piece of IRONY. King Henry was angry that Anne produced a daugther. And Anne tried hard to get pregnant so she could have a son. She lost her life in the process. Henry was so afraid that he would have nobody to rule the kingdom after his death…but he was WRONG!!!
Anne’s daughter Elizabeth I became queen of England. I wonder if Henry only knew how the future turned out…he’d take his sword and kill himself for being such an infuriating nauseating FOOL!!!

And here’s another interesting tidbit. Most of England follows the Anglican sect of Christianity. Anglicanism, I believe, was founded by King Henry. The pope didn’t allow Henry to get a divorce because it was against the Catholic Church. So Henry broke from it and started his own church…which did allow divorce…the Anglican Church! See what I mean? What a Donkey-hole.

And here’s yet another interesting fact. Islam is the only religion that allows divorce. Christianity and Judaism don’t…at least not before the religious texts were tampered with…and King Henry started a new trend. And in Hinduism, I believe their is no word for “divorce” in their language. While divorce is a distasteful option for many…Alhumdolillah our religion allows us the option of divorce rather than endure abuse and other intolerable conditions. Go Islam!

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wow there is some really long posts in this thread :hayaa: :hayaa:

can some one plz give me a short summary so I can catch up…

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Aisha, I saw Boleyn girl and some parts of it made my stomach turn but overall it was really really good. I watched it three times...couldnt tire of it. :)

Im a firm believe in simplicity being the key to elegance and my mom things Im nuts. I have a lot of outfits that dont necessarily have a lot of kaam on them but they do have good and long lasting material, good stitching and excellent style. That to me, is more important then having gota everywhere! When my sisters got married, their outfits were FULL of kaam but they also carried it off beautifull because they LIKE that sort of thing. I dont. I get nervous when my mom pulls out a large gold set and just look at it like its going to eat me, lol. However, I do think some of my nervousness stems from the fact that Ive got hypersensitive skin...Ive reacted to so many things that as soon as I see something new, I get panicky.

I was a bit short with my fiance today and feel bad about it. He was just trying to update me on some stuff and I was shopping with a million bags in my hand so I cut him off. I did say sorry though later on and he was fine about it. Sometimes I wonder what I did to deserve him and then hope I dont turn into one of those wives that takes her husband for granted. We had an India and Pakistan debate also - Im SUCH a trouble make ladies, it just follows me places - and he doesnt support some of my views but understands them. He sees why I say something but doesnt agree with it, fine. Its alright, I just wish there was a way to mend things. For now, Ive made up my mind that I will not allow any animosity to creep into my relationships or dealings with people that are not Pakistani. I can at least do my part.

Mina, you've got a cake tasting? Lucky gal...lol. Ive not finalized cakes yet but one thing is for sure.........CHOCOLATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I might also just have a life size jar of Nutella that I dive into. Or a big chocolate cupcake. Im still deciding. Something about my wedding has to be quirky. I dont know what yet. Maybe the favors? Something has to scream REHA and not "this is a formal event"...kwim?

CE, join the club girly...you'll catch on!

Er these days it would be TW _ t than TWIT.

LOOOOOOOOL........yeah that too. I was trying to keep it it close to the spelling of her name, LOOOOOL! Yikes....what where they thinking....if at all!?!

Come on PSquared, differences in a relationship even between friends (you and your fiance are friends) makes things INTERESTING. It gets boring when two people are toooo similar enough to be twins. You and your finace can agree to disagree. Yes, you're getting married, but you both were, are, and will still be indiviudals. And the best part is that you have a husband who listens to your views respectfully and patiently, can even see your point, but respectfully stands by his beliefs. The key is not to accept each others views but to listen and accept the differences respectfully.....so you both are on the right track as that is how it was handled. Weddings are a stressful time, Psquared. I hope my wedding day comes one day soon. At least you're already at that stage.

I remember when my cousin got married, there was sooo much that needed to be done. And lemme tell you, she had QUITE the ATTITUDE toward others because she was fretting over all the details from decoration materials for the halls, fitting of bridal clothes, jewelry, shopping, what have you. But it's understandable......because as D-DAY approaches closer, you feel like you're on a time crunch, and there is soooo much to do! So many things that require your attention that its easy to get snippy. I'm sure your fiance understands that you're just stressed. And you did the right thing by apologizing to him. There are people who have so much pride that they ruin their relationships with others because they can't admit they were wrong nor apologize for their mistakes. For your first premarital squablle.......you guys handled it well. And that's a good sign for the rest of the journey ;-)
Don't stress it. You're fine. And once the wedding is over, you will look back and laugh and wonder how it all came together....and you'll be more relaxed!

Something quirky for your wedding eh?

Hmmm.....

Wedding favors are a great way to do something quirky. I'm just brainstorming here. Usually people have like a little baggie with sweets in it. Wouldn't it be cool to have something with a message in it? Kinda like a wedding fortune cookie.......but instead of a fortune (which sounds Shirk-like from an Islamic perspective).....what if it had messages from the bride and groom. That would be soo cute quirky.....with a surprise element cuz who doesn't like reading a cookie/box/with a message in it....and especialy from the bride!. You could make the messages funny and sweet. I've seen most people inlcude hershey's kisses and almonds, dates, in the favor bags. You can do a medley of your favorite candy and include a keepsake the guests can take with them.

You could go quirky with music too.

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YOu know what I thought of? I dont know how to incorporate this into the mehndi or wedding but it would be fun if I could.

I have centerpiecs already but I also thought it would be fun to have a stack of really pretty cards on each table with a bowl and some pens. Each person could write down and give some sort of marital advice and drop it into the bowl. Now, I dont know if it should be at all the tables or just one? It would be so much fun if I could have those and make a scrapbook later on with it!

What do you think?

LOL girl me and you are on the same page!!! ive tried everything possible to make me fall asleep! doesntt work!!! the bitter cold in Chicago makes u not wanna be active! I NEED THE SUMMER ASAP!

RV, your wedding day will come Inshallah at the best time for you. Allah swt has a plan for everyone and makes sure we're okay at the end of the day. One thing Ive learned is that He puts through all sorts of tests because He needs to make sure we appreciate what we have...especially a life partner. Watch, when the mister shows up it will be perfect timing and you wont think of anything else. :) Most of my friends all got married before me and some of them have kids too...life just works differently for everyone. You know what I do want though? Twins. Knock out two kids in one shot and call it a day! LOL. Kwim?

I hope things are okay with us RV. Sometimes you read the threads in Life1 and wonder if that will be you one day. I pray not, he seems like he really cares for me. No one gets into a marriage thinking it wont work, it just happens. Im just being emotional for no reason and I know it. lol

Anyway, Ive sent him out to negotiate with caterers once more and guarantee the food. Im going to send him cards tonight and sit down to do my taxes today.

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I have a good feeling about you, PSquared. Reading your posts, you've got a good head on your shoulders. At least your fiance is not the type to get into petty fights and blow them out of proportion to preserve his ego.....a problem some girls have to deal with in regards to their fiance and his family (in-laws). He seems like a patient and calm life partner and as you mentioned your parents are happy with him. You seem to have a close knit relationship with them, I doubt that they'd give away yet another equally beloved daughter to someone who they don't think would make a good life partner:) You're gonne be fine.

I honestly and sincerely like that idea! That's very creative and clever, Reha. I say go for it, girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It would be fun for you and your guy to read the advice together. It will be like starting your marital journey on a positive note or "notes" LOL (get it?) And YOU KNOW.....how desi aunties and uncles LOOOOOVE to be consulted for ADVICE.......often times they give it even when we don't want it, LOL. But to turn to them for their marital expertise......that's gonna flatter them. It'll be something they will enjoy. And it would be very funny to read what advice the little kids right......and also what your friends write....u know how naught friends can be ;-) It's a great idea. And if you don't mind....I'd like to use it if and when my day comes, lol. Don't worry I'll give you credit and tell everyone it was PSquared from Gupshup who tried it and I stole it from her. That okay with you , lol?

You guys ever get this craving from out of the blue to listen to a song from the past.......like the late 90s? And you end up listening to it over and over again. I love youtube!

Anyways, i was never a big fan of Savage Garden, but I like their song, "To the Moon and Back." I don't know if it was as popular as the other songs they came out with. And as corny as it might be, I like the way it sounds. Maybe it's the lyrics or the idea of flying to the moon, who knows. I've listened to it several times already. Can't think of another song at the moment to distract me from this one. What is wrong with me? Anyone familiar with the song? Anyone like it? Anyone curious enough to youtube it? LOL!

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RV, if you love the idea you go for it! Im not one of those uptight girls who need to copyright everything, lol. You seriously think its a cute idea? Im not sure right now how to implement it and where I would put it but I know I want to do it. Maybe as a fun thing at the mehndi? Ill have to think about this!

Savage Garden was one of my favorite bands waaaaaaaaaaaay back in the day! To the Moon and Back is an oldie but a definite goodie!! Good taste there. I loved it so much and played it again and again and again all day, lol. You bought back some sweet memories with that one Aisha...lol.

You know what I did today that was hilarious? I went shopping, came home and changed into my PJs but didnt change my top because I got distracted doing other things. So, Im wearing sweat pants with a button down shirt. Absolute NO-NO ladies. My mom had told me to get her Urdu Times but I forgot. When I got home, she was mad so I had to go back to get it. I get in the car, drive all the way to the desi store and realize Im still wearing my button down with my PJs. Im sitting in the car, thinking what on earth Im going to do because the ONE time I wear something SOOO stupid is when this store is full of people. I had to go in and suffer the looks...so embarassing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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PSquared,

I'm not one of those devious sneaky girls that finds an idea to be silly/inappropriate/bad.....but yet pushes a friend to go for it anyways! Your wedding day is a memorable and special occasion and I wouldn't tell u to "go for it" if i thought it was gonna hurt your wedding in any way.

But i understand that u might be concerned because our culture is conservative that it makes us hesitant about things. But honestly, PS, often times I've attended many weddings where the family members of the bride and groom go up and give best wishes as well as marital advice. I've even seen the Imam perform the nikah in front of everyone in a hall and give a speech about marriage and marital advice. And it's just the appropriate thing to do. You're just doing it in another format (via notes).....and the fun thing about that is that it gets everyone involved. It'll give the guests something to complate and do.........while they are waiting for you to get ready and make ur grand entrance.

You have older sister that is married. So, get her opinion on it. And ask your friends who are married what they think about it. That can help u decide. But you have a sincere green light from me:) It's the same thing as marital advice speeches but more creative:)

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Top this: I once wore a kurta shalwar inside out in public and these two women were staring at me like I was a freak......and I thought what the heck is their problem. It wasn't until I got home that I realized i was the problem.

Oh and have u ever done this: Get dressed for a daawat and forget to change ur shoes. I had to go to a party years ago and i got all dressed up and was proud of the fact that I got dressed early and before everyone else. I was walking around in my comfortable chapal and never took it off. I went to the party with my house chapals and it didn't help that one of the auntis had to make an announcement about it :/

At home, i sometimes wear a a kurta on top of sweat pants. And i've also worn a t-shirt over a shalwar. There's nothing like comfort......if you can limit it to the house and not public places/invitations, LOL!

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You can do the notes technique on the mehendi.....but i personaly think it's best for the shadi because at that time......you're already married and it's the first day of marriage. You're just more closer to that stage at that point in time.

On each table place a writing pad. It can be a plain pad, or a writing pad that has a design on it. I'm sure stores like Target, Office-Max, Hallmark will have varities of pretty paper/writing tablets. Also place a basket on each table with pencils or pens. You can decorate the baskets in a the shiny/festive way that mehndi plates are decorated.

And then you can have a box with a slit on the top, where everyone can drop their advice in.......or maybe 2 decorative containters on a side of the room for both ladies and men. Or you can place a container/basket at each table for people to put their advice slips in.

And PSquared.......Take a firm piece of decorative paper and fold it in half.....so that it sits like a name card on each table. And on this card.....list the directions for the activity. That will make things more organized for your guests. If the paper is of thicker material (like manilla file folder thickness) it should stand folded on the table. And you can also have your MC explain the activity to the guests:)

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So, we both like To The Moon and Back by Savage Garden. What do you think about Dido? Have you heard her song, Resting With Me? I like the lyrics. My favorite line is, "i don't wanna move a thing. It might chang my memory." I think it's different and kind of deep in psychologica/emotional way")

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Ps^2 just wondering...r u happy now???

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I think I can consider myself content now, yes. I actually sleep for a more then a couple of hours each night now, which is great.