^^ I agree...as she has been shown an educated, mature woman...who works for an NGO...she is not lower middle class uneducated, manipulative house wife who keeps her hate for Khirad in her heart and then takes out her rage. She should have forgotton all after seeing how happy her son was....after Baseer's applogy about his rude behaviour...
I 100% agree with twinklestar about us in love with Ashar's character not just Fawad...as I hated his acting/role in Payar kaa pagal pan...and don't watch that drama at all....that darama is so childish...and him not looking good in that character at all....so because we lack Ashar type men in our society....a loyal, loving, intellegent, workoholic, well mannered, soft spoken, book loving person......Ashar....we love your personality............and Fawad you are doing justice to this charachter...
Fareeda ka anger totally unjustified tha. her husband forced her into it but then khirad was always respectful with her plus her son was happy with his marriage so she should hav let go her hurt ego for the sake of his son.
If your husband of 35 years threatened to divorce you over some silly girl who has had no importance in your lives...you would just let it go?
I hate that a lot of people are so quick to see Fareeda as the bad guy. She had a great relationship with her husband. She trusted him, supported him when he felt he was distant with his sister etc. But as she said in one episode...it took him one second to place her so far from him, and for who? Khirad? What did she do for Baseerat his whole life? This happens a lot in real life, and maybe it's not as extremely played out as Fareeda does (it's a drama after all), but women do take out their vengeance in different ways with different people.
Ok, don't kill me for it guys but I tried to watch this drama after being bombarded by it's praise on facebook and in person. But honestly it's too what you say cheesy for my taste. I watched around 3-4 episodes and got sick.
It's the same old story of a guy and girl falling for each other and then the zalim zamana coming in their paths and they have to make through it. Their is so much to life more then the marital problems. Afsos that as desis we waste our lives in either living or watching these household issues(see Life 1 and hamsafar for reference). Imagine what we can achieve if our lives don't resolve around these silly scenerios.
If your husband of 35 years threatened to divorce you over some silly girl who has had no importance in your lives...you would just let it go?
I hate that a lot of people are so quick to see Fareeda as the bad guy. She had a great relationship with her husband. She trusted him, supported him when he felt he was distant with his sister etc. But as she said in one episode...it took him one second to place her so far from him, and for who? Khirad? What did she do for Baseerat his whole life? This happens a lot in real life, and maybe it's not as extremely played out as Fareeda does (it's a drama after all), but women do take out their vengeance in different ways with different people.
i agree wht happened earlier was not right n it would anger fareeda or any lady but once his son is happy n her DIL is preggo wht she did is not at all justified n why 2 turn double face if she has not accepted her tell her instead of playing these games
Ok, don't kill me for it guys but I tried to watch this drama after being bombarded by it's praise on facebook and in person. But honestly it's too what you say cheesy for my taste. I watched around 3-4 episodes and got sick.
It's the same old story of a guy and girl falling for each other and then the zalim zamana coming in their paths and they have to make through it. Their is so much to life more then the marital problems. Afsos that as desis we waste our lives in either living or watching these household issues(see Life 1 and hamsafar for reference). Imagine what we can achieve if our lives don't resolve around these silly scenerios.
^^we all need some sort of entertainment to get away from everyday life worries....it is the cuteness and simplicity of this drama that has entertained many of us....and no our life don't revolve aroun these silly scenerios...in Pakistan...drama/tv is the only source of stress reliever for middle class....they don't have any games to go to, no super bowl or hockey ,no movies , no system.....I hope you let us all enjoy this silly drama.....
Fareeda ka anger totally unjustified tha. her husband forced her into it but then khirad was always respectful with her plus her son was happy with his marriage so she should hav let go her hurt ego for the sake of his son.
If your husband of 35 years threatened to divorce you over some silly girl who has had no importance in your lives...you would just let it go?
I hate that a lot of people are so quick to see Fareeda as the bad guy. She had a great relationship with her husband. She trusted him, supported him when he felt he was distant with his sister etc. But as she said in one episode...it took him one second to place her so far from him, and for who? Khirad? What did she do for Baseerat his whole life? This happens a lot in real life, and maybe it's not as extremely played out as Fareeda does (it's a drama after all), but women do take out their vengeance in different ways with different people.
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I have seen men act the way Baseerat did when it comes to their familiesdad It was probably out of guilt that he didn't do enough for his sister but the way he blackmails both Asher and Fareedawas not right. Fareedas reaction after the marriage has taken place and her son is married is not justified. Perhaps she didnt expect Asher to fall heads over heels in love with a lower middle class girl who is the daughter of a govt school teacher. Maybe she thought Asher would get sick of her and toss her. Asher Hussain is a GENTLEMAN and does try hard to make the relationship work. He is nice guy but Not a angel. HE succumbs to jealousy especially when it is conspired by a highly intelligent, and rich woman gets in the way of his thinking. Also the class that Asher belongs to the men and women are not always loyal. He loves Khirad because she is NOT LIKE THE other girls he knows. but once he finds that her interest in Khizr is growing he becomes jealous and suspious.
If your husband of 35 years threatened to divorce you over some silly girl who has had no importance in your lives...you would just let it go?
I hate that a lot of people are so quick to see Fareeda as the bad guy. She had a great relationship with her husband. She trusted him, supported him when he felt he was distant with his sister etc. But as she said in one episode...it took him one second to place her so far from him, and for who? Khirad? What did she do for Baseerat his whole life? This happens a lot in real life, and maybe it's not as extremely played out as Fareeda does (it's a drama after all), but women do take out their vengeance in different ways with different people.
i think uneducated, villagers r more forgiving than so called educated, decent ladies who r full of grudge. if my husband does that its my husband's fault not someone's else. Baseerat didn't do it for khirad, he did it for his conscious... the way he ignored his widow sister for yrs to keep his wife happy. From epi 1, Fareeda made faces whenever Baseerat talked to his sister. She was a typical bhabi n then a typical mil. And do u find her justified in hating Sara too coz khirad gav her birth? this way this woman can hate several generations.
If your husband of 35 years threatened to divorce you over some silly girl who has had no importance in your lives...you would just let it go?
I hate that a lot of people are so quick to see Fareeda as the bad guy. She had a great relationship with her husband. She trusted him, supported him when he felt he was distant with his sister etc. But as she said in one episode...it took him one second to place her so far from him, and for who? Khirad? What did she do for Baseerat his whole life? This happens a lot in real life, and maybe it's not as extremely played out as Fareeda does (it's a drama after all), but women do take out their vengeance in different ways with different people.
I agree in the sense that fareeda didn't become evil just out of the blue but rather what Baseerat did caused this to happen. Obviously if you have been married to a person for so long and when it is time to take on of the most important decision in your child's life, you are completely ignored and pushed to a side as if you have no value then there are bound to be consequences. However, having said that once Fareeda witnessed that Ashar is happy with Khirad then she should have let it go for her son's sake but this is easy said than done and this does takes time to accept
i think uneducated, villagers r more forgiving than so called educated, decent ladies who r full of grudge. if my husband does that its my husband's fault not someone's else. Baseerat didn't do it for khirad, he did it for his conscious... the way he ignored his widow sister for yrs to keep his wife happy. *From epi 1, Fareeda made faces whenever Baseerat talked to his sister. She was a typical bhabi n then a typical mil. And do u find her justified in hating Sara too coz khirad gav her birth? this way this woman can hate several generations.
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Totally agree....if you are a decent person....you forgive your loved ones for their mistakes...if you love your boy...you love his family too...Khirad turned out to be well behave girl who called her mom and treated her like mom..Hareem is such a loving cute baby....but when your heart is burned with hate and rage....you kill your soul and become Frida....a heartless woman...
They could've done so much more with Freeda's character, there's isn't enough background information to make sense of her behaviour. Imean they could've at least explored the idea that people who get bullied often turn into bullies themselves with showing more glimpse of Freeda's unhappy and unfulfilled married life. If I want to, as an audience, I can view her husband's decision to not even consult her about their son's marriage as a tip of an iceberg. I'm quite disappointed by their portrayal of used and abused stereotype of an Asian mother in law, and for an actress and name like Atiqa Odho, the role was just so so underwhelming. Yeah just born evil characters are so boring...
They could've done so much more with Freeda's character, there's isn't enough background information to make sense of her behaviour, they could've at least explored the idea that people who get bullied often turn into bullies themselves with showing more glimpse of Freeda's unhappy and unfulfilled marriage life. If I want to as an audience, I can view her husband's decision to not even consult her about their son's marriage as tip of an iceberg. I'm quite disappointed by their portrayal of used and abused stereotype of an Asian mother in law, and for an actress and name like Atiqa Odho, the role was just so so underwhelming. Yeah just born evil characters are so boring...
You are right but for a 20 episode drama I don't they could really gotten much more into Fareeda ans baseerats marriage and relationship. Looks like there was a huge cladding difference between the two. I am assuming from play that Fareeda married Baseerat who was from very humble background. Initially it shows that Khirad does not care too much for her mamoo. Later after the marriage they reconcile. in real life people do harbor such guilt. I am assuming that Baseerat got married to a rich girl and forgot about his family and his humble beginning. His sisters illness brought about huge guilt for his irresponsible behavior. He wanted to get rid of his guilt by marrying his son to Khirad. He wanted his sister to die HAPPY. there They could have extended and expanded the drama so much more but from the interviews I am strongly sensing that they had NO CLUE about the publica overwhelming response. I think the cast and production time is still in shock . I really like it because I can relate to it and the acting is first rate. there have some different dramas like Mera Naseeb but I didn't care too much for the play. It was definitely different and the acting was great but that was not my cup of tea. Yea I watched it but it was not like I waited impatiently for the episode to air.
i think uneducated, villagers r more forgiving than so called educated, decent ladies who r full of grudge. if my husband does that its my husband's fault not someone's else. Baseerat didn't do it for khirad, he did it for his conscious... the way he ignored his widow sister for yrs to keep his wife happy. From epi 1, Fareeda made faces whenever Baseerat talked to his sister. She was a typical bhabi n then a typical mil. And do u find her justified in hating Sara too coz khirad gav her birth? this way this woman can hate several generations.
How was she a typical bhabi? She was supportive of him when he wanted to help his sister. =/ She suggested ways in which he could reconnect with her (visit her after your business, call her, had no issues with monetary support). She tells her own sister that she no problem with her husband financially supporting his sister - cos well, it's his sister. That's not typical bhabhi or MIL. Also, he enver ignored his sister for his wife. =/ What are you talking about? He lived in another city and is a big business dude - his wife enevr stopped him from talking to his sister or whatever. Her character was portrayed as really one-dimensional and I think the director wanted to expand on it, but was afraid from over-complicating the story-line. Fareeda is a good mother and a good wife. What they showed was a spurned woman's reaction. Sure you can say, "I'd blame my husband" - but it's really difficult. Women are emotional, that's just fact. And keep in mind it's a freakin' drama - they exaggerated Fareeda's hatred (hating Khirad's daughter) in order to add some spice/pull to it. But they really didn't venture far from what a normal woman might have felt in her situation.
yeah true agree :k: I get Fareeda and why she is what she is.She was a good wife and a good mother but due to the marriage episode she has become a selfish mother but she is too caught up in revenge game to realise
. This is pretty close to what happens in reality in some case i have seen it happen .
i personally think Baserat’s character was most rushed one in the drama especially death part. after his death it is as nothing happens, no one remembers him not even ashar even though he was close to his daddy shown in drama
How was she a typical bhabi? She was supportive of him when he wanted to help his sister. =/ She suggested ways in which he could reconnect with her (visit her after your business, call her, had no issues with monetary support). She tells her own sister that she no problem with her husband financially supporting his sister - cos well, it's his sister. That's not typical bhabhi or MIL. Also, he enver ignored his sister for his wife. =/ What are you talking about? He lived in another city and is a big business dude - his wife enevr stopped him from talking to his sister or whatever. Her character was portrayed as really one-dimensional and I think the director wanted to expand on it, but was afraid from over-complicating the story-line. Fareeda is a good mother and a good wife. What they showed was a spurned woman's reaction. Sure you can say, "I'd blame my husband" - but it's really difficult. Women are emotional, that's just fact. And keep in mind it's a freakin' drama - they exaggerated Fareeda's hatred (hating Khirad's daughter) in order to add some spice/pull to it. But they really didn't venture far from what a normal woman might have felt in her situation.
To pretend and to b really caring is different. She never cared for Baseerat's sister. How many times u saw her looking after her dying nand or calling her to find her health? Whenever he talked to her(u can go back n chk) her expressions showed she didn't like it but wouldn't express openly. And why she had to suggest ways in which he met his sister, she just wanted to keep him away from her. Baseerat never helped his sister financially until very end. Living in different cities is no big deal. Ppl r still aware of their families. Asher met his first cousin when she started living under his roof. A woman who waits for her husband to die so she can carry on with her plans to kick his dead husband's niece has no respect for her husband so how can she b a good wife? Fareeda jaisay logon ko ghunna kehty hain.
i think uneducated, villagers r more forgiving than so called educated, decent ladies who r full of grudge........
I am appalled at your prejudice and outright ignorance. you've been watching too many Pakistani dramas written by the khawateen digest crowd. These dramas do nothing but instill hatred and prejudice towards educated women, who they depict as cold-hearted whereas the reality is quite the opposite. Please learn the difference between reel and real life.
i think uneducated, villagers r more forgiving than so called educated, decent ladies who r full of grudge........
I am appalled at your prejudice and outright ignorance. you've been watching too many Pakistani dramas written by the khawateen digest crowd. These dramas do nothing but instill hatred and prejudice towards educated women, who they depict as cold-hearted whereas the reality is quite the opposite. Please learn the difference between reel and e
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All generalizations are FALSE. Vindictive and egotistical people exist in all classes. For example we have heard about honor killings in the last 6 months. We have all heard of families that disown their children for marrying someone that they dislikes. Living in the west I have seen it happen. I have also seen many parents come to terms and accept spouses for their children that are outside of class, race, nationality, even of a different religious background. Many feel ENTITLED TO PICK A PROSPECTIVE SPOUSE FOR THEIR CHILD. It is a right that they feel they are entitled to by giving birth to a child. Some parents simply cannot come to terms accepting certain spouses for their child. if you need proof just visit the life and relationship forum to read some t the stories......honestly I definitely think that before a child goes and madly in love with somebody they should have some idea how accepting their parents will be in accepting this person in to the family. I think the biggest problem with Khirad for Fareeda is she comes from very humble background while Fareeda is very affluent. She feels very strongly that her Yale graduate son could way better. For those of you that watched Daam remember How Amina Shaikh character acts when she finds out her brothers interest in Zara? She helps Zara out so much yet she doesn't feel she is good enough for her brother. In this case her parents are supportive of Zara and don't mind the class difference. I honestly don't think this is exaggerated at all in the reel. some people are good enough to be our friends but not good enough to marry our sons or brothers. Also Amona Shaikh has a very close bond with her brother which she cannot share with even her best friend. In Fareedas case she has to FIX THIS MISTAKE even if it means destroying er sons life. She says in death her NAND takes her most possession. . I cani can sympathize with her at a point. Bid course she takes it too far. One thing is for sure Baseerat forgets his roots and probably is busy living the BIG LIFE. The fact that Ashwr is close to Sara but only has meet Khurad once before her moms illness speaks volume. Baseerat forgot about his poor relatives and was engulfed in living the High life. His sisters illness makes him come to grip with his ignorant behavior and in order do right he offers his most valuable asset his son. For those of us with big families we can relate to these type of characters. Honestly I BELEIVE Baseerat did this salvage his relationship with his sisterand to apologize for his own indifferent behavior. I don't think he did to hurt Fareeda but make peace with his zameer. If we were Fareedas place would we be bitter towards Khirad and her mom. Definitely! We all make mistakes in life and sometimes the guilt makes us to things. In this process there are people who get hurt. Guilt is a horrible thing andin process trying do hurt people inadvertently get HURT!
BY THE TIME THIS DRAMA IS OVER SOME OF WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE AN ANALYTICAL COURSE ON IT. Lol!
To pretend and to b really caring is different. She never cared for Baseerat's sister. How many times u saw her looking after her dying nand or calling her to find her health? Whenever he talked to her(u can go back n chk) her expressions showed she didn't like it but wouldn't express openly. And why she had to suggest ways in which he met his sister, she just wanted to keep him away from her. Baseerat never helped his sister financially until very end. Living in different cities is no big deal. Ppl r still aware of their families. Asher met his first cousin when she started living under his roof. A woman who waits for her husband to die so she can carry on with her plans to kick his dead husband's niece has no respect for her husband so how can she b a good wife? Fareeda jaisay logon ko ghunna kehty hain.
Being aware and actually visiting your family are two different things, bud. My friend's uncle lives in Michigan (2 hrs drive from Illinois) and she's met him a total of 3 times in her entire life, and she's 23. =/ He is her father's brother, and he's a doctor. So, yes, it does happen in loads of families.
And you do realize she started her vendetta AFTER Baseerat threatened her with divorce. Of course she didn't have respect for her husband after he says 'eff you' to her for his niece that he barely knew/cared about. That's the point I'm trying to make - she was spurned...her actions were basically her reaction to her husband's behavior with her. Spending your entire life catering to a man and then your child only to realize in the end that you have no say, is really well...sad. This defo happens in our society and women take it out on their DIL's or SIL's or whoever it may be. Again, I'm stating this for the millionth time.. it's a drama. They exaggerate things to degree in order for it to appeal to audiences. However, there is a shred of truth in those exaggerations - ie) Fareeda feeling evil after he husband almost divorces her.
And i agree with what someone else said - educated women aren't heartless and cold. Do learn the difference between reel and real life.