How much do you tip?

Very sad and cheap mentality here:

I think because of some people's tipping habits majority of us suffer !
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And b/c of other peoples lack of tipping those workers suffer too dontcha think?
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Some people so proudly go about tipping the less fortunate ... coz that gives them that feeling of power and being rich ...
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So? who are they hurting? i'm pretty sure that waiter doesnt' really care about the psyche of the person who gave him a tip. **

but they dont realize that their tipping is putting the recievers in the habit of asking for money that is not earned through halal means !
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I dont know how many places you have been to but nobody asks for a tip. And as for "halal means", a tip is a monetary gift, if u give ur brother or friend money as a gift, is their money haram now? sheesh. **

the funny thing is , when the police take "ooper ki kamayi" thats called bribery .. when the waiters get it , its called tipping !!!!
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You CANNOT be serious here.. bribery and tipping are two different things, as Lucid patiently explained. **

Its a bad habit guys .. we should denounce such things as tipping ..

*Cheapness is a bad trait too...esp using religion to justify it. :)
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Re: How much do you tip?

^^ Calm down.. Sara... calm down... not everyone live in NY and go through the shyt sigh

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in many US states, waiters make $2 and some cents an hour. if you get all high and mighty and don't tip them, i hope they pee in your food.

:smack: .. abey…

I have not seen that at any spa/salon that I have been to. However it's more common for people :)
See there are people who are absolutely horrible customers (mostly the self righteous desi freshie crowd). They think sicne they are parting with their money that gives them the right to act like total cheap, stingy retards. It is NOT a pleasure to serve other people, but some people are better at being nicer than others and that gratuitty included is like a protection for htem against said customers. In those places where grautity has been added to the final bill I have never seen bad service from those waiters either.

Oye i am calm. :smiley:
Waiters make a criminally low wage..its pretty self righteous to think that ur doing htem a favor by NOT tipping them. :omg:

:lifey:
Always be nice to hte person who serves you food.

Dont get me wrong, i love desi people (not a gori wannabe) but our lot seesm to be the worst both as customers AND as workers (have a million and one stories here)
PS, everyone tells me everyone other ethnic group is jsut as bad. :smiley:

Lahore tikka say khanay ke paisay laynay chahiyen instead of daynay :@:

You have no idea how it is made :snooty:

Sadly , I feel the same for you after reading your comments !

You’ve never been to Egypt :hehe:

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What do you guys do about buffet waiters?

It seems as though nobody commenting here as actually waited tables or worked in or owned a food service establishment. I have. So here is how it is in America:

Waitstaff are paid slightly less than minimum wage, because it is the custom here to tip waitstaff. If the place has buspeople, the waiter/waitresses will share 20% of their tips with them. A good busser makes the waitperson's job easier & helps to make happier customers and bigger tips. Often shifts are short, so they don't really have a full time job.

If it is a slow day, they all work less, and earn less tips; if it's a busy day, maybe they make more because they are serving more people (but maybe not proportionately more because they can't provide the best service if they're too busy): that is the economic justice of the tipping system. Think of it as production bonuses.

You people who have salaried jobs and a slow day: is your income impacted? Probably not. And your compensation is built in to your salary.

Some of you get year-end bonuses or commissions on sales: waiter's tips are the same thing.

For a restaurant owner, wages are a huge expense, make-or-break actually, even with waitstaff hourly wages so low. If you want them to give the waitstaff higher wages, they will have to raise their menu prices: are you willing to pay more?

I don't believe in adding the gratuity to the bill except in cases of large parties (8 or more). Working a large table is much harder work, and if one or two of the people there (if it's a split ticket) don't put on a decent tip, the waitperson is getting cheated. Sometimes it can be a misunderstanding about who is covering the tip, so it is better to have the gratuity included in such cases.

I don't tip the hairdresser because that custom stems from the time when ladies' hairdressers were their maids doing an extra service. I don't look at hair stylists as servants -- I consider them professionals who set their own prices.

good perspective... thanks for giving us the "waiters side" of the story... I really did not know about the 20% they share with busboys...

about bonuses: it's true I see people that have salaries of $100k jobs and yr end BONUS is 30K!!!!!!!

so that is ALSO a form of TIP... true!!

its 650K average in Goldman Sachs :)

The only difference is that we dont get our bonuses directly from our customers / clients ... or else half of us would be millionaires by now ...

our employer pays us the bonus .. not the clients !If the client dares to pay us the bonus directly .. that is gross misconduct and we can be fired for it ...

We as a company earn money and then the company decides to pay us the bonus from the profits ..... it greatly reduces the chances of bribery and unethical means of earning money ...

Normally at a buffet if the waiters are very attentive, and come to replace the dishes with clean dishes, etc...I usually tip like I would at a normal place.

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I have never tipped buffet waiter. I didn't know we had to tip them too. :(

Are you talking about buffet waiters at a wedding / party? or just a regular buffet?

either ways I have not tipped them.

since you drew the comparison, let me expand on that.

its pay for perfomance, yours, your departments, business unit and company as a whole. formulas are something like if teh total company performance. I could be a rockstar, but if the company overall did not do well, i dont get squat, or it gets reduced. performance below an expected threshold at any level means an impact to bonus.

ppl say that for waiters u still tip them if their service was good but the food was bad etc.

using the same example, i can not give a tip or ding the tip based on overall experience, food, waiter, busboys, yeah?

Aurchaepiyo, I used to own a franchise few years ago ... we ,the management team had stringent performance measurement systems for the staff that included the waiters...

We realized that free hand tipping lead to the waiters running for more tipping and that affected the customer service , we used to get a lot of complains from customers who felt ignored or had longer waiting periods...

therefore to reduce the complaints we implemented various strategies ... for waiters , we ultimately concluded that :

the waiters put more attention and dedication in the customer service when they knew that the bonus or tipping was going to come to them from the management and it was going to be based on their over all and consistent performance .... We kept close tracks of the performance management and would ensure we pay them the deserved amount from the profits ( this was the employee bonus plan which is on top of the basic pay )

And we had introduced a reasonable service charge in the bill .. that ultimately went as bonuses to the staff ...

having said this , I cant say the system that is in America, I think this topic was started in general terms and not about how america does it ... so i am standing by my point on general terms ....

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^^^^ hav u taken any step to prevent ths kinda bad habits in respectable waitersss …:chai:

Ahaa , now I know why you are so much against giving tips to the waiters/waitresses , being kanjoos franchisee , you wanted to take, that jar full of tips money ,home. You wanted the customers to tip the waiters and waitresses but you would not want to part with that jar full of tips money. LOL.
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