How many Daughters did Prophet(Saw) have?

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lol.. really.. So since it was Allahs command then that sufficient to call it a greattttttt virtue.

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hey..let off your frustrations in other manners

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Lets ponder upon what you have just said. Firstly you have made loads of assumptions here to concoct a nice interpretation of Ahle Bayt to suit your needs. Where on earth did you get the idea that the relationship of son in law and father in law can survive if the the son in law produced offspring? If the inclusion of Ahle Bayt includes the entire banu hashim then why did the Prophet made a special supplication to include Ali in the Ahle Bayt (according to you)

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uthman RA was with the Pophet SAW in all three migrations even the earlist with handful of disciples (companions) RA. may Allah SWT show the shia that the Prophet SAW was the best teacher

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this isnt even about the status of Usman..

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there is atleast one glaring takfiri trait being exposed here, the shia will not pray - may Allah be pleased with them- even if they say those daughters RA existed.

you people are in cahoots with those who deny their existence, and those who deny are kazzabs of the highest order

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I want to stay away from the thread now but then u keep throwing these funny messages in.....

^ we all say Darood to Prophet s.a.w and his aal, Doesnt that includes daughter"s" of Prophet s.a.w ?

Per The great Scholar "wellwisher4u" all Banu Hashim are ahleybait and that wud include Abu Lahab.

All of u have been claiming that shia's dont respect Prophet s.a.w if we dont agree with Prophet s.a.w having 4 daughters ... Is that even about Prophet s.a.w or his daughters ? isnt that about Uthman after all ?

If u were so concerned about Prophet s.a.w family u wud have argued about having difference of Opnion in number of Sons Prophet s.a.w had as well. well how wud a change in number of sons affect status of dear Ashab !!! so difference of opnion doesnt really matter here. Mind u Number of Daughters doesnt make any difference either.

In the end .... Dont u guys feel that ur answer changes to question "Who are ahleybait and who rnt" depending on the topic we r discussing.

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So was the person who hit him the final blow with sword i.e. Hazrat Amro bin Badil, so what?

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Wont let me tongue work here otherwise I will have to name the Kazzab of all time who had audacity to fabricate a Hadith right infront of the daughter of Holy Prophet (s), so dont get into that and stay no the topic with all aspcets of ethics and morality!

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its an idea? well i guess i quoted a narration not assumptions like you people are making here.. And the wording of narration are: He, Exalted, has placed my progeny into the backbone of Ali Ibn Abi Talib."

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If the inclusion of Ahle Bayt includes the entire banu hashim then why did the Prophet made a special supplication to include Ali in the Ahle Bayt (according to you)
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banu hashim are general ahlebayt but purfied Ahlebayt are wives of prophet(Saw) and AHlekisa.. And prophet(Saw) didnt make supplication for ahle kisa to be included among Ahlebayt , they were already ahlebayt. But to be included among the purfied members of AHlebayt. As wished by Allah in 33;33.

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yes i guess so. And it even includes the wives of prophet(Saw) mind you. Since aal even includes wives.

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Per The great Scholar "wellwisher4u" all Banu Hashim are ahleybait and that wud include Abu Lahab.
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common i expect some maturity from you, Ahlebayt in general are those to whom khums is given and they cant receive sadaqa.. now will abu lahab fit in that category..

when i said bani hashim it ment those who brought emaan..its common sense..

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All of u have been claiming that shia's dont respect Prophet s.a.w if we dont agree with Prophet s.a.w having 4 daughters ... Is that even about Prophet s.a.w or his daughters ? isnt that about Uthman after all ?
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you reject the relation of our prophet(Saw) with his beloved daughters just because of hatred with hz usman(ra).. So you should analyze yourself, do you hate sahaba more or you love prophet(Saw) more.. lets see which overcomes the other.

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If u were so concerned about Prophet s.a.w family u wud have argued about having difference of Opnion in number of Sons Prophet s.a.w had as well. well how wud a change in number of sons affect status of dear Ashab !!! so difference of opnion doesnt really matter here. Mind u Number of Daughters doesnt make any difference either.
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it does.. because we dont link them to some unknown people, how would you feel if we say Ali(ra) was not the son of abu talib but some unknown person.. just imagine.. the shias will be the first to make takfeer on that person who does that...

moreover it was not a difference of opinion ( of shia scholars) regarding number of sons of prophet(Saw).. but it was their mistake since they concluded from the nick names of sons of prophet(Saw) that they were seperate sons of prophet(Saw). Moreover no one linked any of the son of prophet(Saw) to unknown persons..

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i said uthman RA was a migrant of abyssinia and medinah (praised in the quran) but the shia claim the killer of uthman RA to be a ('mere') sahabi. clarified to avoid any possible confusion about the migrants

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My bad... i shldnt argue with u :)

Now... One honest question, not only for Sunnis but for shias as well who claim Prophet s.a.w did have 4 daughters, can u all please open ur books and tell me about all 4 daughters of Prophet s.a.w.

Please tell me their names, Mothers name, The year they were born and passed away, How many times they were married and whom they were married too. Please look it up and reply.

I know Ibn-e-Siddique has already posted alot of this info but i would like to request it all in one post.

Thank You
Wasalam
Aqeel

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banu hashim are general ahlebayt but purfied Ahlebayt are wives of prophet(Saw) and AHlekisa.. And prophet(Saw) didnt make supplication for ahle kisa to be included among Ahlebayt , they were already ahlebayt. But to be included among the purfied members of AHlebayt. As wished by Allah in 33;33.
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So now we have the "general" ahle bayt and the "purified" ahle bayt? interestingly, according to you Fatima, Hassan and Hussain were not included in the "purified ahle bayt" initially but the wives were already in that esteemed position. does that in any way make sense to you? A daughter is not part of purified ahle bayt and Prophet Muhammad (s) had to make a dua to include her?

kindly explain this...

and since you are so good at explaining things also explain the word 'purified' according to you? What was the imperative to include some in the "purified" version of ahle bayt? what does it signify

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The main point of your post was that Uthman was amongst the early Sahaba and hence had more merits, my point was that his killer was also one of the earliest Sahaba and in fact was among those who had taken Bayah uder the Tree.

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Lengths people go to squeeze out a few unimportant points! Sayed Modaressi addressed it nicely (watch at 5:30);

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what a confused soul you are.. AAl means progeny..not the wives.

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well please learn some basics before you deliver these foolish claims.. progeny means dhuriat.. aal means family , family includes wives..

If its not sufficient for you then refer the verse of quran: All) except the family(aal) of Loot. Them all surely We are going to save (from destruction). Except his wife…” (Quran, 15:59-60) The construction “except his wife” would be non-sensical unless the wife was included in the family(aal) of Loot (عليه السلم). Otherwise, why would Allah need to clarify that Loot’s wife was an exception to the rule that the family of Loot (عليه السلام) would be saved?

Even if this is not sufficient for you then tell me, i will give more proofs inshallah..

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continue this debate on the other thread of yours and answer the questions raised by me in post #75