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It is not sickening at all. Some people want their spouses to be from back home and some don't. Simple. He said "traditional". Is it a big deal?
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It would be sickening if the same guys are addicted to inappropriate videos and spend their days checking out random girls, yet want pious wives from back home.
It appears to be more of a case of double standards than anything else.
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^ True
But thats the way things go. What have learnt is that, desi or perhaps all men feel that its a woman's job to keep herself clean/pious or whatever u wanna call it.
If she is lured by a man, its her fault, if she lures a man its her fault too.
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What is sickening is a poor guy can't ask for a paratha for breakfast before he goes to work so that he can feed your lazy ass and pay for your Ztv and long distance phone bills wasted on gossip.
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Anil,
If you want to go to Pakistan to find a "traditional" wife, then follow your instincts and go. What other people think is pretty irrelevant as long as you and your spouse are happy.
skhan, you normally do an excellent job of insulting people and you have done it yet again. Nice generalization you have made there!
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Whats sickening is that the guy automatically assumes that a grl born and raised in USA is not able to coz shes a dumb westernized abcd who’s likely been xposed to all the big bad things in th world, nad automatically is bad 
or will not make parathas for himcoz she thinks its “beneath” her and some crap. ANd is that all u think women who stay at home do, eat, watch Ztv and talk on teh fone n gossip 
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What can I say, I like my parathas 
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Mehnaz, it was purposely made to highlight the generalizations being made by females in this thread. Sometimes when the tables are turned, they become easier to see.
I am sorry to hear that you feel I only insult people on this board. It is usually not intentional.
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^ Grlz generalize coz thatsall YOU guys seem to do. Its a vicious cycle
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I am sorry to hear that you feel I only insult people on this board. It is usually not intentional.
Hmm.. This remark is even more insulting than the original one.
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More chances of finding a pious woman in Pakistan than in USA. Period.
If I can find a woman like that in USA, then I wont have to go back to Pakistan. Its my opinion...you dont have to agree with it. I just want a woman to marry whos innocent and pious just like me, and is willing and able to have kids...the sole purpose of marriage according to the teachings of Islam. Got a problem with that?
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^ Agreed; although I don't think I would marry again if my wife (Khuda na kasta) can't have children; I'll just take it as Allah didn't want it for me and I'll be content.
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I dint think piety knew geographic bounds but whatever...
Anil.. thas .. interesting.. :-|
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Not so fast, lussi. Maybe this would be true in the 1950's, but not today. Modern day Pakistan is filled with lying, cheating, fornicating and club going girls and guys. They just keep it hidden from your eyes.
I think the parents of girls here in the west are more aware and vigilant of their daughters and know what tempations are out there. Because of this, it's actually harder for girls to sneak around. In Pakistan, parents are more ignorant of modern things, so when daughter says "I'm going to my school friend's house" they actually believe it.
My husband is Pakistani, born and raised there, and he tells me so many stories of the girls he went to school with. Many of them would sleep with their boyfriends (mind you, these are upper middle class and upper class girls from decent families). Some would claim to go to their friend's house, but instead would go with their boyfriends to the homes of mutual friends where they knew the parents were gone for weekend. They'd hookup in people's empty bedrooms. Or my favorite of how one guy made it a sport to sneak into various girls bedroom windows at night, and would sex it up right under the parent's noses. The parents never had a clue what was going on at 3 am in the next bedroom.
Nowadays, drugs and alcohol are flowing freely at parties (raves have become common there). Ecstasy is a problem. The Daily Times social editor wrote an article last year at how they get so many phone calls on Monday mornings from worried girls that "you guys were taking pictures at the party last night. Please, I beg you, don't print mine. I was with a guy/dressed scantily and I don't want my parents or husband or inlaws to know."
Divorce has also become extremely common. In the past year, we've had three divorces in our family back in Pakistan (in the past five decades, we had never had any--this is a first time occurrence), absolutely none for the family and friends here.
Just two weeks back, in Jang's women's advice column, a girl from Pakistan wrote in that she fooled around with her married boss, and is now pregnant. Apart from abortion, what are her options, she asks? Girl after girl write in each week about how they met guys online and were physical with them, but now the guy has cooled off, and boo hoo, what do I do? "I' m a shareef larki" they all cry.
My khala in Pakistan is absolutely livid at her housemaid, who first had an affair on her husband, divorced him, then started an affair with another guy, who now lives in the servant's quarter with her, without any marriage. My khala refers to the quarters at the "kanjarkhana."
This is modern day Pakistan. If you want a shareef girl, I suggest looking here first before leaping back there. I know so many pretty, humble, domesticated, educated and religious girls that are being overlooked because guys are making a mad rush to go back to find a wife simply because they believe the stereotypes.
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sooo every pakistani girl is slut, whereas ABCD girls r shareef…o gotcha…
just because u do it in the open it means u r shareef? any girl who does this is destined for hell, doesnt matter where they r located. but i agree look here b4 going back to Pakistan…if u dont find what u r looking for go back…agree? but what if i dont want abcd, then what do i do?
and also same thing can be said about girls here that is stated about Pakistani girls..except its the norm so no1 pays any special attention to it.
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There is a lot of truth to this post; Once again Khan bhai shows his brilliance. I don't think there's anything insulting here; it shows a snapshot of reality.
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I think the problem that many of the western girls have is of insecurity. They know that its highly unlikely that they'll marry a white or black guy, and if all the Pakistani men go back to Pak zameen to marry, they'll be left out in the cold.
Am I right?
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I think the parents of girls here in the west are more aware and vigilant of their daughters and know what tempations are out there. Because of this, it's actually harder for girls to sneak around. In Pakistan, parents are more ignorant of modern things, so when daughter says "I'm going to my school friend's house" they actually believe it.
My husband is Pakistani, born and raised there, and he tells me so many stories of the girls he went to school with. Many of them would sleep with their boyfriends (mind you, these are upper middle class and upper class girls from decent families). Some would claim to go to their friend's house, but instead would go with their boyfriends to the homes of mutual friends where they knew the parents were gone for weekend. They'd hookup in people's empty bedrooms. Or my favorite of how one guy made it a sport to sneak into various girls bedroom windows at night, and would sex it up right under the parent's noses. The parents never had a clue what was going on at 3 am in the next bedroom. Nowadays, drugs and alcohol are flowing freely at parties (raves have become common there). Ecstasy is a problem. The Daily Times social editor wrote an article last year at how they get so many phone calls on Monday mornings from worried girls that "you guys were taking pictures at the party last night. Please, I beg you, don't print mine. I was with a guy/dressed scantily and I don't want my parents or husband or inlaws to know."
Divorce has also become extremely common. In the past year, we've had three divorces in our family back in Pakistan (in the past five decades, we had never had any--this is a first time occurrence), absolutely none for the family and friends here.
Just two weeks back, in Jang's women's advice column, a girl from Pakistan wrote in that she fooled around with her married boss, and is now pregnant. Apart from abortion, what are her options, she asks? Girl after girl write in each week about how they met guys online and were physical with them, but now the guy has cooled off, and boo hoo, what do I do? "I' m a shareef larki" they all cry.
My khala in Pakistan is absolutely livid at her housemaid, who first had an affair on her husband, divorced him, then started an affair with another guy, who now lives in the servant's quarter with her, without any marriage. My khala refers to the quarters at the "kanjarkhana."
This is modern day Pakistan. If you want a shareef girl, I suggest looking here first before leaping back there. I know so many pretty, humble, domesticated, educated and religious girls that are being overlooked because guys are making a mad rush to go back to find a wife simply because they believe the stereotypes.
You are presenting one side of the coin.
An even hiigher number of stories of girls fooling around in the west can be presented.
I agree that marrying a girl from Pak from a decent family by no way is intself a gaurantee that the girl has never fooled around, but a girl or for that matter even a boy in west is much more likely to have extramarital sex, coz of the culture & availability.
And i don't agree that parents in Pakistan are not on guard concerning their daughters. Large number are still accompanied by their brothers/fathers wherever they go.
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Originally Posted by skhan
*What is sickening is a poor guy can't ask for a paratha for breakfast before he goes to work *
^
Paratha is a very important factor
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Anil..