Re: Hitler the great!
^ Three new threads for your channel in the oven. 
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Please read the post properly before misquoting. I donât mind doing a proper word by word breakdown. The âmeri Hitler bhabiâ was a *specific *example taken from this forum which youâve quoted twice now.
How so? Both essentially attribute heroic traits and special credit to Hitler, and thatâs the gist of my objection. You are free to disagree with it and pick your lesser evil.
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A specific example of South Asiansâ general practice of not giving a ***** every time** the word âHitlerâ is spoken. I am guilty of that. Hitler was just another one of those devilish dictators who did terrible things in the world and history is full of them. I do not think he is someone special or âthe one who must not be namedâ.
They do not âessentiallyâ do that, and you think like that because probably you are not familiar with the linguistics of the great desi people. Youâd probably also deny people use the phrase âyou little devilâ.
We have derailed this thread a lot. Iâm out.
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But you can not compare Fuhrer with Al-Baghdadi.. 
Hitler was a true leader and a great organizer and he stood for German masses.
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True. I probably donât know enough about the linguistic of the great desi people, but I sure know enough about linguistics to know that socio-cultural impact of words to any particular society or set of people should be taken into consideration before we try to glamourise their usage. And words are subject to semantic change over the course of time. That should answer your assumption.
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If Muslims are being oppressed then we must bring out the assumption that Muslim would do the same thing to West if given power. If some damage is done to West by Muslims factions then people start making excuses for West and portray West as âmasoomâ :lame:
The point is West has formalized its rule over world and invade countries using formal force whereas oppressed Muslims takes revenge in an informal way hence considered terrorists.
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Havenât read all of the repliesâŚ
But remember way back when 9/11 happened? And all/ most Muslims everywhere were hated? For the acts of only some âMuslimsâ? And how everyone didnât like it and argues âhow can you judge an entire community based off of the acts of a few?â
Remember ever further back when Africans were forced to leave their homelands and into slavery? But even those who didnât treat their slaves like animals, but rather a part of the family, were treated like crap? Or how some people still hate the entire White race because of what happened oh so (not so) long ago?
If it isnât clear, what Iâm trying to say is⌠not only should we not judge everyone based on the actions of a few, regardless if we agree with them or not⌠But also, we shouldnât assume that our opinions are the same as everyone else. 
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I share the pain as well and feel for them too, but I was referring to your statement earlier where you said - their pain doesnât phase you now because of what they have done. We need to stop looking at people as âoursâ and âthemâ. Not everyone is the same. I think thatâs where a majority of the problems lie when we paint everyone as the same.
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Because anyone who read up on their history knows that if Hitler had invaded any further - ex. India and so forth. The same would have happened to us.
The people killing the Palestinians would not be the ones targeted by Hitler but rather innocent people. And he only valued his own race and kind - what gives people the audacity to even think he would care about the well-being of Muslims?
Usually I ignore such comments, but because you are directly discussing me, I am reporting your comment. Comment has zero credibility agar baat kerne kee tameez na ho
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So itâs easier to stoop down to the level of a jallad and wish death upon people of another culture/religion? There were innocent children, mothers, husbands, elderly people that were treated worse than animals by Hitler and his people. And like I posted before, reading basic Grade 8 history books would have educated anyone to his idealogy, that if he had seen anyone with a tan-looking skin he would have treated them maybe even worse, because in his heirarchy of superiority, we would have probably been lower than pond scum. Instead of saying âwah wahâ to those kind of thoughts and man, do not condone everything that such an ideology stands for, be it in the past, or in the present, or future.
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My FB is full of butchered people and children of Gaza but and some redeeming quotes by Hitler, one along the lines that there is a reason why I left a few Jews so the the world could know why I wanted to get rid of. People have resortwd to hailijg him as somewhat of a hero or justifying his action to make sense of what is going on now. Whenever hateful sweeping remarks are made, you invalidate those who might be fighting their own people for the right thing standing with you. There are Jews who condemn what is going on in Gaza and they are actively voicing their opinion, some have been punished brutally for it so hailing Hitler is like hitting below the belt. Genocides should never be glorified!!! What Hitler did was not right nor was it some sort of redemption and neither is justifying him. However I truly am baffled that people who have lost so much of their identity, family, some still carry identification numbers, how do they go ahead and allow the same to happen. That I donât understand. Two wrongs donât make a right, what Hitler did was NOT right but what Israel is doing is also NOT RIGHT!!!
Btw, for those who picked my use of word âweâ in my op and ran with it, majority of the people in this thread can tell that I used it in general way. It was used as the ownership of the problem, like a leader would say that âwe should say no to the corruptionâ, does not mean that he is saying that we all are corrupt.
Just calm down and try to understand what I am saying. Uchal uchal ke jazbati hone se koi faida nahi.
Now that you have quoted my post, it does seem like I was calling you a reactionary idiot. Itâs unfortunate and I regret that. I have edited my post and would like to offer my apologies to you. But over to the mods.
But just to quickly respond to your comment above this post. You clearly made crass generalisation and streyotyped all Muslims based on your Facebook feed. Thereâs no âgeneral ownership of the problemâ apparent in your commentary. You have clearly accused all Muslims of having Osama or Hitler as their hero based on the attitude perhaps solely found amongst your family, friends or handful of online buddies. Thereâs no harm admitting that and denouncing that mistake.
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I donât think any Muslim idolize Hitler or hope he had finished his job. It might have been said by some people outraged by Israeli atrocities but not the general population of Muslims.
Jews actually should teach Hitler and his saga a lesson by carving out Zionist country in Hitlerâs birthplace, Austria, by throwing out the original Austrians of the area. Palestinians should have been a nobody.
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But there lies the crux of the matter. Why should Muslims claim a problem simply because the problem involves other Muslims? When one claims ownership of a problem, one is implicitly taking responsibility for it and frankly, Muslims who donât hail Hitler as a hero do not bear not responsible for the idiocy of the few who do by virtue of having a religion in common with them.
Because I did not want to turn it into a personal fight, plus I knew that you have nothing personal against me, I reported it instead of getting into argument over one word. No need for apologies, though that is extremely kind of you that you did
I did use the word we in general context. If I did not then I would also be the part of same we, right?. It was just a figure of speech.
And yes, it was that when I am referring to my Facebook, I was mainly talking about my online social circle, unfortunately those images were shared images, and had thousand of likes. That means that problem is not confided to the people who are on my friends list only.
No I am sorry. You are right. It should be Hindus who should own that problem. My bad.
That was a joke my friend 
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TLK, I am going to offer my honest opinion on your OP. You donât necessarily have to see it as a counter argument, just take it as general feedback.
The issue youâre going to talk in general context, sadly came across as a crass and sweeping generalisation. It was a poor execution. One cannot regret the broad brush tarnishing of Muslims in by non-Muslims in one line yet do exactly the same in the next sentence. You lose the moral high ground. Taking ownership of the problem does not mean all innocent people should be made to feel guilty and look like part of the problem. Thatâs like running a trial on guilty till proven innocent basis.
No matter how many likes a picture receives on Facebook, it could never be a total reflection of such a massive group of people who have identities outside of social media. As weâre all probably aware, equally despicable, absolutely hateful, and shockingly disgusting anti Arab slogans are also being chanted on social media by Jewish extremists. No member here can dare use that example to generalise the entire Jewish community and put them on the spot (not because they donât want to, but probably because they canât), so I see no reason why Muslims like yourself and I and all those who have contributed in this thread, should bear any responsibility and blame for idiotic behaviour of tiny minority, that too on the internet. I rather denounce them from where Iâm standing, then force any association and proximity with them, in any way.
I hope you would not see this as an attack on your intentions or your actions even.
I did not say that we are responsible. I said that we should own it. That means that recognize that the problem is from with in, and somehow contribute towards changing this mindset