Hindu Extremists to force Muslims to sing Hindu religious songs

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so whats ur problem Princes A'ss. Do u have an estimate of how many muslims didnt sing this song.:D

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so whats ur problem Princes A’ss. Do u have an estimate of how many muslims didnt sing this song.:smiley:
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He needs a warning here for disfiguring a member’s name…:grumpy:

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He needs a warning here for disfiguring a member’s name…:grumpy:
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and coming from a person who always like to misspell selectively. I am happy to get a warning if that guy gets a warning for insulting a community.:slight_smile:

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People loose their composure AFTER they have lost the argument.

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^ argument and you, try again. What kind of substance that u have in your post other than insult. There is no data, there is no insight but a lot of prejudice and blabberings and bs from a mad man.:)

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Give me an example dude. Where did I spell anything wrong? :grumpy:

It is simple. Hindoos have a habit of ranting all the time …

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Please keep them in India, we've more than enough of them already. BTW, what is so important for the Pakistanis whether the IMs sing Vande Mataram or La Marseillaise or nothing. It's their problem and let THEM deal with it. And why are they hoisting Pakistani flag in unknown places like Karnatka. Don't they know that the only place where we want to see our flag waving is Kashmir...So please IMs, sing Vande Mararam, hoist Indian flag and keep in India...

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Another case of an idol-worshipper showing why Bharat Mataji is not “secular”.

As we saw, this Hindu song was used in a hate-mongering novel written against their rulers, the Muslims. And invokes three or four of some hundreds of Hindu gods and goddesses.
And as wikipedia quotes, it was not at all surprising if muslims found this song highly offensive towards them.
Some seculars tried to clean the original Durga-flavor of the song by purging Hindu deities from the song, yet what is still controversial is the very first word “Vande”, which means bowing or worship.

By the way, it is not just Muslims who oppose this Hindu extremist song, but also many sikhs.

Bharati Muslims gave their lives to Bharat-Mata in the hope that this way they would be able get rid of being considered traitor. This is despite the fact that they stayed in Bharat instead of coming to Pak, which is seen by Bharatis as their approval of secularism and rejection of two-nation theory. This sing Gana-jana-mana all the time and they hold high the Bharat flag.
Yet even after all of that, they are still required to sing a song which was originally written against their very existence in Bharat-Mata, and many parts of which can never be accepted by a Muslim.

The so-called Hindu fanatic “secularists” are declaring today that every “secular” Bharati would be FORCED to sing this Durga-song, and anyone disagreeing should go to PAKISTAN!
Why Pakistan? Why not Saudi Arabia?
It’s obvious that Hindu “secular” fanatics still are not convinced of “Indian-ness” of Muslims. They can be appeased only when Muslims accept Durga and Lakhsmi as their “mothers”.
Read this Hindu fanatic, Golwalkar:

http://www.stopfundinghate.org/sacw/appendixa.html
" The foreign races in Hindusthan [India] must either adopt the Hindu culture and language, must learn to respect and hold in reverence Hindu religion, must entertain no idea but those of the glorification of the Hindu race and culture, i.e., of the Hindu nation and must loose (sic) their separate existence to merge in the Hindu race, or may stay in the country, wholly subordinated to the Hindu Nation, claiming nothing, deserving no privileges, far less any preferential treatment — not even citizen’s rights. There is, at least, should be, no other course for them to adopt. We are an old nation; let us deal, as old nations ought to and do deal, with the foreign races, who have chosen to live in our country.”

This forcing of singing this Durga-song is a depiction of such Hindu fascist psych.

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Babuji:

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Those who stayed back in India chose to do so, knowing fully well that its not an Islamic state.
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Those stayed back chose it because they thought Bharat is going to be a secular state, not a Hindu state.
Bharati Hindus have been fooling others by the secular facade, but time and again their Hindu fascist views still come out. Just like in this present controversy.

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The country was divided along religious lines in 1947
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There existed no single "country" before 1947 in South-Asian sub-"continent". All that was there was the land-mass united by British under their Raj. So stop lamenting that "divide", because there really was none.

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Hindoos ??:confused:

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I agree - its India's problem, so this fake show of concern from Pakis is unwarranted.

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India is a secular state, and thats the reason Muslims (and other religious groups) have equal rights. Nowhere else in the world do Muslim men & women enjoy greater freedom than they do in India. However, with rights there come certain obligations. And singing the national song is not an option, the same way that respecting the Indian flag is not an option.

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Pls get your facts straight. Vande Mataram first appeared in the novel Anand Math, which was anti British not anti Muslim.

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Babuji:

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And singing the national song is not an option, the same way that respecting the Indian flag is not an option.
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Your national anthem became the anthem only because it is secular in nature, and Muslims had no objection to it. Otherwise Durga's song had more supporters among "secular" Hindus.

Anyway, national anthem and flag may not be an option, but this song really is an option. One may or may not sing it and still stay as much Bharati as a Hindu. Yet some Hindu fascists make rejection of this singing this song a litmus test of loyalty of non-Hindus to Bharat Mata.
That is the objection.

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Evidently Muslims are not as free in India as they are in the US as singing a national song or even respecting the flag is not required of them.

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Even in the US, Muslims do not have the option to disrespect national symbols.

Talking about freedom, I have not seen azaan blaring from any loudspeaker in the US nor have I seen Muslims being allowed to take out religious processions on Muharram. US does not allow Muslims to operate under Sharia the way India does. Thats the kind of freedom they have in India.

Moreover, Muslims do not face the racial profiling in India as they do in the US. No airline takes somebody off for extra security checks just because they have a Muslim name.

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I pitty these Hindoos, unaware of the discription of their own community, ready to blame others for misspelling… The word Hindoo is absolutely correct

Webster Dictionary
Main Entry: 1Hin·du
Variant(s): *also *Hin·doo

The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.
Hindoo= Dwellers of Indus Valley
Variant of Hindu
http://www.bartleby.com/61/87/H0208700.html

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again coming from a person who cannot differentiate between Air in India and Air India.:). We know what is the spelling of Hindu. U dont have to teach us the spelling.

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what is the difference between national anthem and national song? Does India have a National Anthem? What are the differences if the two entities are separate?

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Yara firstly its Pakistani, not paki. Secondly, although I think they've every right to speak up for IMs, as many of them have migrated from India to Pak not so long ago...but they should better concentrate on other problems, esp. those confronting Pak...Like, how can they get rid of the napak army? I think nothing harms them more than this monster. As far as the IMs are concerned, I've never felt any sympathy for them, for me they are as strange as Arabs. Heck, I don't even know wheter they still wear lungis like other primitive Indians or ve started wearing shalwar qameez like Pakistanis or Afghans...