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^ Wish I had argued with you. Would at least get an invite!!!!
But then, you have a 'little more exposure' and might have an idea that this guy would actually come over if invited :P
:D
Re: Hindu boy converts to Islam in Pakistan
^ Wish I had argued with you. Would at least get an invite!!!!
But then, you have a 'little more exposure' and might have an idea that this guy would actually come over if invited :P
:D
Re: Hindu boy converts to Islam in Pakistan
Kamran Akmal??? ![]()
Re: Hindu boy converts to Islam in Pakistan
According to some reports 80 people were killed in Burma, more than that are butchered every week in Pakistan.
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:D
Ali you have to tell me when you are Lahore next time...
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^^^
and I am looking forward to Shamraz's visit...
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^ InshaAllah, maybe by the end of the year or by election if it comes before.
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^ InshaAllah, maybe by the end of the year or by election if it comes before.
Ali I am wel equipped to host people.. I made a guest house just next to my house with three guest rooms-pool-jacuzzi-steam room-gym-theater-music systems etc... just next to my house..
Being a friend on FB you know I host people every day.. I'll look forward to your visit...
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Ali I am wel equipped to host people.. I made a guest house just next to my house with three guest rooms-pool-jacuzzi-steam room-gym-theater-music systems etc... just next to my house..
Being a friend on FB you know I host people every day.. I'll look forward to your visit...
And you are in Lahore? We should definitely meet up!
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^ bhai jacuzzi ka sun key pahunchay hain yahan ;)
Re: Hindu boy converts to Islam in Pakistan
Ali I am wel equipped to host people.. I made a guest house just next to my house with three guest rooms-pool-jacuzzi-steam room-gym-theater-music systems etc... just next to my house..
Being a friend on FB you know I host people every day.. I'll look forward to your visit...
Thanks bro, I'll definitely catch up next time.
Re: Hindu boy converts to Islam in Pakistan
And you are in Lahore? We should definitely meet up!
Seb you are welcome..
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^ bhai jacuzzi ka sun key pahunchay hain yahan ;)
kb.. welcome anytime..
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Arent you generalizing about muslims?
I am just stating what I feel is a probable outcome. If a conversion of. Muslim to Hinduism is shown on Pak TV chances are his or her life along with those of the organizers may be in danger. I would like your opinion on if I am way off base here. I do respect your opinion - and would like to hear it. Thanks.
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90% of the religious violence victims in Pakistan are good muslims.. and I can not give you a better example than Najeeb who was killed by the mob.. He was my personal friend and I have not known a better muslim than him in my life strictly speaking in religious terms. He used to have very conservative religious views.. even after he was kidnapped by Taliban for a huge ransom and stayed in their custody for more than 2 months.. He used to recite Quran in his car sitting with three body guards after that when he used to go to his factory.. totally harmless-positive guy.. and his body was mutilated to an extent that I can not explain you..
What was his fault..
We have enough of this religious criminality in our country..!!!!
Its a sad reality of Islamzation of the country. Pakistan will never progress until religion and politics are separated, mullahs are put on a tight leash & jihadi factories are closed for good.
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Pakistan will never progress until religion and politics are separated
when you say religion and politics are separated do you mean if there is a divine ruling on some matter available, we should simply discard it and make one of our own according to our own whims and desires or better yet use the age old farangi taazeerat-e-Hind?
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LOL. Going off on tangents. You don’t disappoint.
This will be my only response to the great diwana as I have no desire to debate with the master. Better people have tried and failed.
I would rather that people followed islam but that’s neither here nor there. The whole point of the discussion, which you missed as usual, was that minorities are treated bad in Pakistan and this sort of thing is unbecoming of the majority when the minorities feel threatened already.
Maya is a hypocrite because her antics don’t sync with her words. She is allowed to dance on live TV and at the same time take her danda to the park? What do you call hypocrisy, O’ great diwana?
By muslims in Pakistani context I mean the government certified muslims
because you know the Pakistani government certifies whether you are a muslim or not. And I’d appreciate if you don’t make this an ahmadi vs certified muslim thing.
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QFT!
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when you say religion and politics are separated do you mean if there is a divine ruling on some matter available, we should simply discard it and make one of our own according to our own whims and desires or better yet use the age old farangi taazeerat-e-Hind?
I mean't region should not be part of equation in governance of the nation & no religious group should be given preferential treatment b/c of their religious beliefs. In other words, treat everyone equal in eyes of law & take religion out when making policy decisions.
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Well in that case you are saying that *people need to stop being religious in order to be saved from religious violence *... I told you before the mobs are not being Islamic - they are being mobs and the reason why mobs exist is because the leaders of the state are allowing them to exist.
It is a horrible thing to have a close friend treated that way ... :( and I feel for you ... but the principle in what I am saying is still there ... and you can't lose hope ...
In Pakistan's case, yes people need to tone down their religiousity, at least the outward display of it, in order for the society to improve.
Isn't it strage that the more religious these guys get, the more violent they become? Yazdi is bang on. The public display of religion is driving Pakistani society crazy. Religion needs to become a personal matter.
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Besides being something personal, religion should also never get too political.
That's one issue that muslim countries will always struggle with IMO. the religion itself is quite political. The focus should be on personal spirituality vs political or society control.The whole notion of an all encompassing holy book and stringent rule set that is supposed to govern every aspect is no good as it results in rigidity and failure to adapt.