Hazrat Yazid Ibn Muavia (RA) First Sermon as an Amir ul Momin

trulyurs · December 15, 2009, 6:25pm

Das_Reich · December 15, 2009, 10:31pm

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^ shaykh ul islam maulana muhammad ishaq has been misquoted by these clips of videos all he is saying is that cursing sahaba does not make one a kafir , and i NEVER said that 12ers are kafirs,
rafida are muslim , thats not under debate so dont divert the issue.

Prince_Abbas · December 16, 2009, 1:35am

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Prince_Abbas · December 16, 2009, 1:40am

Happy New Year [Merged]

ur just ranting but the bottomline is the core of corrupt people morally and politically are 12ers in pakistan

re: zainab she was not infalliable ( maybe u think so) she only knew what she saw in karbala …what did she know about the tawwabun and the vast majority of kufans who were terrorized by ibn ziyad.its easy to criticize when ur neck is not on the line.tawwabun gave the ultimate sacrfice even for a dead hussain why wont they have done that for a living husssain ? so get off ur high horse and face the facts zainab was a woman who was just traumatized by loss of 18 males of her family u cant blame her for being bitter…

12er puppies like u claim to love ahle bait and criticize kufans , if u were in those days u will never have the courage to venture outside ur home …when have 12ers in pakistan done anything good ?

Bibi Zainab was not infallible. But still she is a very respectable personality due to her greatest lineage, and her taqwa.
It will be condescending to her and her intellect to say that she was condemning ALL Kufans. In reality she was talking about certain group of people in Kufa who had gone against Ahle Bait.

Similarly, all Zakirs of Ahle Bait refer to the same Kufans whom Bibi Zainab justifiably condemned. But you khariji munafiq curse her and all the zakirs. But then you show your hypocrisy by telling us that you respect many shia scholars.

Your hatred of Ahle Bait knows no boundaries. You think Bibi Zainab was “traumatized”?! Have you even read her faseeh sermons that she gave in the court of Ibn Muawiyah?
You think she said that because she was a traumatized woman? What about Imam Zainul Abedin saying the same thing about those Kufans? Do you call him a munafiq too?
koi sharm bhi ye tum mullaon ko ya nahin?

Actually,** for khariji mullahs like YOU he said**:

““We shall be perfectly satisfied with you if you give up the practice of siding with us on one day and opposing us on another day”.”
Why won’t you support your khariji brothers in Kufa?

And you also show your nasibi idiotic side by saying that “core” of all corrupt people in Pakistan is shia?! How can you prove this claim? And if you can’t prove it then you are nothing but a LIAR. But it’s nothing new from dumb molvies like you.
It’s such dumb idiotic arguments that have made such a stupid khariji Talibani Mullah Umar.\

You ask what good shias have done? I ask you what good your khariji brothers have done in Pakistan, except murdering, looting banks, growing poppy, and waging fasad against Muslims?
And why are you asking this question only about shias of Pakistan? Are shias of Pakistan a new sect? Why are you not talking about shias in general?

Das_Reich · December 16, 2009, 7:08pm

aqeel123:

u r the first one i have heared who is calling Allama Talib jhory names, otherwise most of sunni's and shia's respect him. u r a question mark on this forum who is not yet sure which sect to follow so made a sect of ur own and call ur self true shia of Imam Ali from past. U r still confused who was the first rite full caliph, while its clear in Quran that ALLAH made adam the caliph on earth on the base of his knowledge. *U r a confused person trying to make others confused. I am not actually sure if u r mentally stable. * I can call u the names back but then whats the difference between me and u ? May ALLAH send his curse upon u and others who claim to love ahleybait but manage to show their true feelings about ahleyabit and their lovers every now and then.

haha so u think muslims have always been neatly divided into 2 sects shias and sunnis...where does it say in quran and hadith that there are just 2 viewpoints in islam ? or thats ur own assumption based on ur ignorant interpretation

thats a oversimplification and ignorant opinion worthy of bill o reilly and ann coulter.confused are those who believe in infalliability and imamat as pillar of religion even though prophet said nothing of the sort and BLINDLY follow their mullahs like 12ers

my views are very much same as the muslims in those day and age before all the fiqahs were formulated and sects were formed so in this way i am very much a puritin muslim, although i do value judgements of imam abu hanifa over all others as he was the most senior of imams and was from kufa.

Das_Reich · December 16, 2009, 7:10pm

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It will be condescending to her and her intellect to say that she was condemning ALL Kufans. In reality she was talking about certain group of people in Kufa who had gone against Ahle Bait.

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which kufans ? name them ...i know very well which kufans were loyal and which betrayed hussain, but ur zakireen are not interested in authenticity just in "girya" or the art of mass hysteria ....they are experts in this field as their bussiness depends on cashing the memory of dead of karabala ...do u deny that now ?
and if u lose ur temeper ur acting like abu jahl , and u call urself a follower of ali.

u are all mad as i know all ur tricks and when ur cornered u just start blindly throwing in accusations of hating ahlebait as thats ur emotional blackmail to put all ur critics on the back foot.That does not work with me as I am very secure in my beliefs and I can back them up with evidence from hadith /rijal and opinion of scholars who are experts in this field.

Prince_Abbas · December 17, 2009, 12:43am

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Prince_Abbas · December 17, 2009, 12:49am

Please refrain from name calling. If you have a point to make - please do so in civilized manner*

P_G · December 17, 2009, 5:59pm

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the best thing i listend from ulma-e- deoband about yazeed ibn-e-mauavia (razi taala anhu)

pplz should TAWAQUF about him ..

Maverick_27 · December 18, 2009, 4:16am

that may be considered as gud and safe approch.........

aqeel123 · December 18, 2009, 4:46am

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ذَلِكَ الَّذِي يُبَشِّرُ اللَّهُ عِبَادَهُ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ قُل لَّا أَسْأَلُكُمْ عَلَيْهِ أَجْرًا إِلَّا الْمَوَدَّةَ فِي الْقُرْبَى وَمَن يَقْتَرِفْ حَسَنَةً نَّزِدْ لَهُ فِيهَا حُسْنًا إِنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ شَكُورٌ {
Shakir 42:23] That is of which Allah gives the good news to His servants, (to) those who believe and do good deeds. Say: I do not ask of you any reward for it but love for my near relatives; and whoever earns good, We give him more of good therein; surely Allah is Forgiving, Grateful.
[Yusufali 42:23] That is (the Bounty) whereof Allah gives Glad Tidings to His Servants who believe and do righteous deeds. Say: "No reward do I ask of you for this except the love of those near of kin." And if any one earns any good, We shall give him an increase of good in respect thereof: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Ready to appreciate (service).
[Pickthal 42:23] This it is which Allah announceth unto His bondmen who believe and do good works. Say (O Muhammad, unto mankind): I ask of you no fee therefor, save lovingkindness among kinsfolk. And whoso scoreth a good deed We add unto its good for him. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Responsive.

there is no point of arguing with someone who wud defend yazid. he will be cursed until the day of qayama for Killing Prophets family and keeping the rest captive.

وَجَعَلْنَاهُمْ أَئِمَّةً يَدْعُونَ إِلَى النَّارِ وَيَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ لَا يُنصَرُونَ
Pickthal 28:41] And We made them patterns that invite unto the Fire, and on the Day of Resurrection they will not be helped.
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وَأَتْبَعْنَاهُمْ فِي هَذِهِ الدُّنْيَا لَعْنَةً وَيَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ هُم مِّنَ الْمَقْبُوحِينَ **
Pickthal 28:42] And We made a curse to follow them in this world, and on the Day of Resurrection they will be among the hateful.

The curse will find em, using razi Allah and ameer-ul-momineen with there name wont help.... it will make it clear though who else desrves this curse and this curse of ALLAH will follow them too....

May ALLAH curse All of those who hurt ahelaybait and those who praise enemies of ahleybait a.s.

niden · December 19, 2009, 3:03pm

Qat-le Hussain asal mein marg-e Yazid hay
Islam Zindah hota hay har Karbala ke baad

Don't be misguided. I am sunni to the core of my heart. By calling Yazid as Hazrat Yazid or AbuTalib as Hazrat Abu Talib indicate lack of knowledge. Both did not deserve the prefix of Hazrat at all. Yazid being tyrant and instrumental to killings of progeny of Prophet Mohammad PBUH and Abu Talib died without converting to Islam.

porcelain_doll · December 19, 2009, 3:34pm

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DOVE · December 19, 2009, 7:06pm

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i have a question is there any school of thought in Islam that actually write Razi Allah Unho with the name of Yazid Ibn e Maawia?

TLK · December 20, 2009, 2:28am

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^ there are school of thoughts that believe that he was not kaafir, but I dont know of any that put Hazrat and RA with his name. RA is reserved for Sahaba and there is only a very weak rivayat that he was born during Prophet last journey to makkah .. but I dont think that he is qualified as sahabi even then. Calling him RA is not approppriate.

We put RA in front of sahaba cause Allah said that he is Raazi with all the sahabas. Non sahaba are not qualified of that rank.

His father, Hazrat Muaviya on the other hand is an established sahabi. He was Ravi of many authentic hadees hence considered amongst the top sahaba. It is sad that Hazrat Ali and Hazrat Muaviya got in a conflict but that does not lower their ranks as sahaba.

Maverick_27 · December 21, 2009, 4:32am

i want to make it clear that yazid was not a sahabi… majority of historain say that he was born 25 hijra.
RA means here rehmatullah alle, that we use for tabian and other muslims. he was a pious and learned person as imam bukhari and imam muslim had not mentioned nething negative about him. historain has mentioned mixed opinion him. since majority of tabian and sahaba did bayaat of him i think there is no point we should not place rehmatullah alle after his name.

mary_poppins · December 21, 2009, 1:08pm

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Sister, so if I call every shia who curses sahabas non-muslim, is that right?

Put your emotions aside because Allah will not ask us what we thought of Yazid or any other sahaba.
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Astachfirullah , this itself is shirk ! It means you already know what Allah swt will ask of you or anyone else ? Are you (astachfirullah ) his spokesman ?

I have a question for you circketplayer ?

Do you believe in Allah swt ?
Do you believe Allah's word as true ?
Do you believe in Allah's last prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) ?
Do you believe him as the chosen one ?
Do you love his friends ?
Do you reject and denounce and hate the enemies of Islam ?

assuming you do , but your reply would be apprecieative.

now lets go back what the prophet saw himself has said:

''Fatima is a part of me , he in fact tortures me who tortures her ( Sahih Muslim Vol IV Chapter MVII, The Merits of Fatima ) ''

Fatima is a part of me ! Whoever angers Fatima , angers Rasoolulah , Whoever angers Rasoolullah , angers Allah ! (subhanallah ! )

Isnt Imam hussain a part of Hazrat Fatima (sa)? Imam Hussain was the grand son of the prophet saw , he is a part of the prophet saw !

Yazid was the son of a liver eating woman , the son who openly cursed and hated Rasoolullah! His father who was the prophets enemy and only converted to islam to save his skin and kin! You tell us that we hate and send curses on him who tried to destroy islam and kill the prophets family ?!

Among the sahabas there were pious muslims and hypocrites like Abu Sufyan!

Shia's do not curse the sahaba of the prophet Rasoolah (saw) .

It is you blind people who confuse loving and rejecting and distintion of true and bad , haq and na-haq that make such assumptions of Yazid as a good man !

Curse everyone who killed the own flesh and part of the prophet , curse everyone who oppressed the family of the prophet!

I pray god to guide u all to the right path and remove you out of this jahiliya

nGenius · December 21, 2009, 11:15pm

Here is your answer.

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Yazid ibn Abu Sufyan was the son of Abu Sufyan ibn Harb, who was also the father of Muawiya.(RA)

Yazid(RA) was one of those four Muslim generals who were sent by Caliph Abu Bakr to invade Roman Syria in 634 A.D, he was made governor of Damascus after the Conquest of Damascus in 634 A.D, he commanded Muslim army's left wing at Battle of Yarmouk. After the death of Abu Ubaidah ibn al-Jarrah in 639 A.D from plague, Mu'adh ibn Jabal was made governor of Syria and after his death from the plague Yazid (RA)was made governor by Caliph Umar, but he too died in a plague in 640 A.D.
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nGenius · December 22, 2009, 1:06am

double post

nGenius · December 22, 2009, 1:08am

1st of all anyone who some knowledge of Islam should know that there will be 3 queston in the Grave

"Qabar mein sab se pahaly theen (3) sawal hongay? Three questions will be asked in the Grave?

Mann Rabuka? Who is your God? Answer: Allah (swt)
Maa Dinuuka? What is your Belief? Answer: Islam
Mien Haadha Raajal? Who is this man ?" Answer: Rasulullah (saw)

Here are some question Allah (swt) will be asking us on the day of Judgment. (Source: SunniPath)](http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=7&ID=12761&CATE=1)

salamu `alaykum
I pray you are well and in the best of health.

The simplest answer to this question is that one will be questioned regarding everything he/she did during his/her lifetime. This is proven from countless verses and narrations.

Yes, there are certain things that are specifically mentioned and inferred from the verses of the Qur’an and the hadith of the Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) such as:

Prayer:

The Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace stated, “The first thing one will be held accountable for on the Day of Judgment is prayer.” (Sunan Abu Dawud, al Nasa’i: *Kitab al Salah Bab al Muhasabati `ala al Salat *#469-471; Al Hakim also narrated it and said it is sahih)

Life, Youth, Wealth & Knowledge:

The Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) said: “The feet of a servant will not move on the Day of Judgment until he has been questioned about four things): his life - how he spent it, his knowledge - how he acted upon it, his wealth - where he earned it and how he spent it, and his body - how he used it.” (Tirmidhi, Kitab sifat al Qiyamah wal Raqa’iq)

Hearing, Sight, and One’s Heart:

Allah Most High says:

“… the hearing, the sight, the heart – all of those shall be questioned of.” (

Imam Suyuti states in his tafsir al jalalayn, “Regarding what he did with them.”

Murder:

The Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) said, “The first thing adjudicated between people on the Day of Judgment will be murder.” (Agreed upon)

Covenants:

Allah Most High says:

“And fulfill the covenant; surely the covenant shall be questioned of.” (

Covenant here refers to those made with God and humans, both. (tafsir al jalalayn)

Comforts and Blessings of the World:

And He Most High says:

“Again, you shall surely see it with the eye of certainty then you shall be questioned that day concerning true bliss.” (102:8)

Imam Suyuti states in his tafsir al jalalayn that what is meant by “true bliss” is “the comforts [of the world], the health, leisure, security, food, drink and other things which one enjoys in this world.”

The Rights of Allah’s Revelation Upon One:

Allah Most High states:

“Surely it is a Reminder to thee and to thy people; and assuredly you will be questioned. “ (43:44)

Imam Alusi states in his Ruh al Ma`ani, “[You will be questioned] on the Day of Judgment regarding it and your standing in fulfilling its rights.”

Accepting the Message of His Prophets:

Allah Most High states:

“We shall question those unto whom a Message was sent…” (7:6)

Imam Suyuti says in his tafsir al jalalayn, “[We shall question those] communities, about their response to the messengers, and to what extent they implemented that which was conveyed to them.”

The Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) said, “You will be asked regarding me on the Day of Judgment and about what you did.” (Sahih Muslim, Kitab al Hajj Bab Hujjat al Nabi)

Those Under One’s Care:

The Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) is reported to have said, “Every one of you is a guardian, and every one of you will be asked about those in his care.” (Bukhari, Muslim)

The Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) said, “There is none who is appointed a leader over ten people except that he will be questioned regarding them on the Day of Judgment.” (Jami` al Saghir #8008 quoting Tabarani (hadith hasan))

One’s Rank & Prestige

The Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) said, “And he (s: the servant) will be asked about his fame and prestige just like he will be asked about his wealth.” (Majma` al Zawa’id, Kitab al Qiyamah Bab maa’ jaa’ fil Hisaab)

Ibn Hajar Haytami says, “Tabarani narrated it in his Saghir and in its chain is Yusuf ibn Younas, the brother of Abi Muslim, and he is very weak.”

Regarding Speaking of Qadr

Sayyidah `A’isha said, “I heard the Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) say, ‘He who speaks about something from qadr will be questioned about it.” (Mishkat al Masabih*, Kitab al Iman Fasl al thalith*; Ibn Majah (hadith sahih))

Regarding the Fitra

The Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) said, “Oh Umar! You will not be asked about the actions of people but you will be asked about the *fitra*.” (Shuab al Iman)

Regarding the Killing of Animals

The Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) said, “’whoever kills a sparrow without fulfilling its due rights will be questioned by Allah regarding such killing.’ The companions asked, ‘Oh Messenger of Allah, what are its due rights?’ The Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) said, ‘That you slaughter it properly and eat it, not that you cut its head off and discard it (as a whole).’” (Nasa’i, Ahmad, Darimi)

This applies to all animals.

Regarding the Forbidding of Evil

Abi Said narrates that the Prophet (Allah bless him and grant him peace) said, “Indeed Allah will question the slave on the Day of Judgment and He will say, ‘What did you do when you saw evil (munkar) and did not stop it?’ The Prophet then said, ‘He (the slave) will say in his defense, ‘My Lord, I was hidden from the people and returned to you!’” (Shuab al Iman)

These are just some of the narrations I could find. Insha’Allah, it will shed some light on the issue at hand.

Wasalam
Salman Younas

mary_poppins:

I have a question for you circketplayer ?

Do you believe in Allah swt ?
Do you believe Allah’s word as true ?
Do you believe in Allah’s last prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) ?
Do you believe him as the chosen one ?
Do you love his friends ?
Do you reject and denounce and hate the enemies of Islam ?

assuming you do , but your reply would be apprecieative.

now lets go back what the prophet saw himself has said:

''Fatima is a part of me , he in fact tortures me who tortures her ( Sahih Muslim Vol IV Chapter MVII, The Merits of Fatima ) ‘’

Fatima is a part of me ! Whoever angers Fatima , angers Rasoolulah , Whoever angers Rasoolullah , angers Allah ! (subhanallah ! )

Isnt Imam hussain a part of Hazrat Fatima (sa)? Imam Hussain was the grand son of the prophet saw , he is a part of the prophet saw !

Yazid was the son of a liver eating woman , the son who openly cursed and hated Rasoolullah! His father who was the prophets enemy and only converted to islam to save his skin and kin! You tell us that we hate and send curses on him who tried to destroy islam and kill the prophets family ?!

Among the sahabas there were pious muslims and hypocrites like Abu Sufyan!

Shia’s do not curse the sahaba of the prophet Rasoolah (saw) .

It is you blind people who confuse loving and rejecting and distintion of true and bad , haq and na-haq that make such assumptions of Yazid as a good man !

Curse everyone who killed the own flesh and part of the prophet , curse everyone who oppressed the family of the prophet!

I pray god to guide u all to the right path and remove you out of this jahiliya

We don’t worship Rasulullah (Saw), Fatima, Ali, Hassan and Hussian (r.a). Worshiping them would be shirk. We only worship Allah…fullfilling the order of Allah (swt) shown by Rasulullah (saw).
I guess your are confused about Yazid (R.a).

Here is the family tree of Abu Sufyan (R.A). 4 wifes and childrens.

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From Hind/Hinda daughter of 'Utbah ibn Rabī’ah:
        **Son: Mu'āwiyah I**
                               **Son: Yazīd**
                                                  Sons: Mu'āwiyah II, Khālid 
                                   Daughter: 'Ātikah (married to 'Abd al-Mālik ibn Marwān)
From Ṣāfiyah d. Abu al-'Āṣ:
Daughter: Ramlah (Umm Ḥabībah)(Married to 'Ubayd-allah ibn Jaḥsh, followed by Muhammad (s.a.w) after 'Ubayd-allah renounced Islam in Abyssinia)
    Son: Abd-allah ibn Jaḥsh
                    Daughter: Ḥabībah d. Jaḥsh 
From the daughter of Abu 'Amr ibn 'Umaiyah:
Son: 'Amr (Captive in the Battle of Badr)

From Ṣāfiyah d. 'Abd al-Muṭṭalib ibn Hāshim: 1 son
Other children: Ḥanzalah (Killed in the Battle of Badr), Yazīd, Ḥārith,Umm Ḥakam,'Utbah (son: Walīd)

Here is some info about Muawiya (R.a)

Who are you to judge Abu Sufyan (r.a)?
Read the History of Islam before confusing yourself and others…especially about Abd Allah ibn Saba’ (ca. 600-670) Jewish Scholar who converted into Islam to divide Muslims. He is the one who laid the foundations of Shī‘ī Islam.

Historical Facts
*Muawiyah I (Arabic: معاوية بن أبي سفيان; Transliteration: Muˁāwīya ibn ˁAbī Sufyān); (602–680)

*Muawiyah I wife Maysun bint Jandal (a Christian poetess and singer from Bani Kalb in south Syria) gave birth to Yazid I in 645.

*Yazīd ibn Mu‘āwiyata ibn Abī Sufyān Arabic: يزيد بن معاوية بن أبي سفيان‎ (July 23, 645 - 683)

*Yazid I died at the age of 38. He ruled for 3 years. Yazid I was succeeded by his son Muawiyah II[6].

*Muawiyah II or Mu’āwiyya ibn Yazīd (معاوية بن يزيد‎; 661 - 684) was an Umayyad caliph for about four months after the death of his father Yazīd.

*Marwan ibn al-Hakam (623 - 685) (Arabic: مروان بن الحكم‎) was the fourth Umayyad Caliph, who took over the dynasty after Muawiya II abdicated in 684.