I was only going to help you build your theory about quran in one place… You would not like what you would see… I man your own theory.
A word of advice …when you have to build a theory negating your first theory, you CAN NOT present both theories. I guess they don’t teach it at school ??
If you ever need any help again.. I would be happy to do so.. you and estern11 can really use help in “learning how to think 101”
bye
Here is my superhuman foreseeing prediction about your intellectual life. You are always going to be picking on the prophet… because picking on quran make people look restarted.
Its been done before… it would be done again…
Doesn’t matter which religion, you are right. As I said before, my answer would be the same no matter what religion you choose to substitute your question with.
What is my theory? Because I don’t know what theory I have presented here. I have made the following points in this thread:
A source must be verified. (There is no way to verify that a source is actually from a higher power)
Morality is subjective.
We can’t know what God actually is or what it wants from us because see point no. 1.
I cannot speak in favor of Islam leaving out other religions.
I am not the one keep wanting to turn this discussion towards Muhammad, you are. I declined to discuss Jesus for the same reason. Show me where have I picked on him. I answered YOUR questions.
You are right about one thing, I need to learn how to think. Don’t we all?
Have I ever questioned the Shahada - nope. I did have a serious think about Christianity for half a day or so a few years back - the whole forgiveness in confessional thing (seemed easier then praying, lol, astagfarullah) - but the whole 3 in 1 god thing plus Peter denies Christ thrice yet was present at the transfiguration, I mean, seriously?
Is it really necessary to state that a negative can’t be proven? One doesn’t believe everything else that can’t be proven on the assumption that there is a 50 percent chance of it being true. Why should it be okay for religion?
You make sense half the time so be glad that I am even entertaining you after your personal attacks and what not. Never made a claim that Quran is from aliens. Seriously! I understood that you were implying that an other worldly source of the religious message could have alien origins. Did I understand you right? It is a good theory, better than claiming it is from the force that breathes life into the living and hold it all together.
Because many religions make the claim that they have a message from God for all mankind. This is why all claims must be treated equally. All religions must be held in the same regard for their claims. They are about the unseen so one is not better than all others.
Abolutely not. There is no requirement to treat them equally. You make it a requirement. If twenty people claimed to be you does that mean we all need to take their claims equally?
Unicorns can be disproven. There is no evidence of horses ever having one horn throughout history. No skeletons fossils etc have been discovered. Religion can be disproven or proven. Just need to study it.
Just a small comment. Sources can be verified by actually studying and reading them. If a certain source has information contained in it which at the time it came about would have been impossible for the person to obtain in their time and place then surely logically you would deduce that the information came from a being that is all knowing. And all religions do claim to be from God and there is no reason to believe that they weren’t. However (according to Islam) these religions were corrupted by man or became outdated for their times and so a “new” religion was revealed, a new message. Muslims believe Islam is just a continuation of Christianity and before that Judaism and before that all the way to Adam AS. Just because one religion is disproven doesn’t mean they all automatically are then also disproven.
Or you dont have a theory of its origin. But if we show some stuff like no one knew , then you have a theory??
(like have a theory and don’t have a theory at same time)
real smart!!
Then you have a disable man coming up with semi-awesome stuff theory… but same time you have pretty advance knowledge "circulation theory "
both at same time.. nice!!!
Why don’t you work on it, and come up with some thing consistent.
some famous templates are:
Quran is from devil.
Quran is copied from bible.
Quan has greek knowledge.
Quran is made by roman Catholics.
Quran is made by group of very smart men of its time.
That should get you started. when done let us know
I guess that’s where the disconnect is then. People can see me, talk to me, know me personally. Can people do that with God? The difference in two claims is HUGE to put it lightly. Twenty people claiming to be me can be proven wrong almost immediately. Twenty people claiming to have spoken to God cannot be proven wrong or right.
Again you are changing the subject. We are not speaking about god. We are talking about religion and the linkages you create when it comes to link one to the other to make a statement.
If 20 people claim to be you, do I need to consider them all equal in every aspect just because they claim it? Yes or no please.
If 20 religions claim to be “the religion” do I need to consider them all equal in every aspect just because they claim it? Yes or no please.
