Hajabi girls going half-naked in ONLY LADIES PARTY...

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Women who don't need to bare it all to feel good about themselves obviously have more self-confidence....

runs

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this reminds me of a very "wise" diwana quote - "what is the use of lingerie? it only blocks my view"

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hain? who’s Zuhair bhaijan? :confused:

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I actually share the same opinion as you, but there are many posters here who are interpreting the ruling about Awrah differently, including some hijabans, hence my comment. Someone mentioned this as being a desi v arab thing. To a certain extent, I believe this to be true. I find, in general, pakistani women are much more conservative and modest in their dressing compared to their arab counterparts. So maybe the cultural influence plays a big part here too.

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you sound like a hijabi.....
I bow to your self-confidence!!!!
sorry....no disrespect meant with the sarcasm....just being punny.....

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lol I was speaking about hijabis and non-hijabis alike ... I feel the same about makeup.. some of my friends would rather die than go to college without makeup... some carry themselves equally well without being made up.. no disrespect intended to hijabis/non-hijabis or makeup lovers (I happen to be one of them)..

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I absolutely agree with all of you who say that one has higher expectations from a hijabi because they are suppose to represent etc I know we all have expectations from people be that good or bad but the problem is just because we have those expectations doesn't mean others have to come through on them.

I believe if a hijabi women is dressed in a manner that is Islamically allowed than there should be no question about her modesty. She has just as much right to wear fashionable clothes and dress up as a non hijabi or any other women. Yes, ofcourse it is wrong to dress in a manner that goes beyond what is permitted (depending on the opinion one follows can be only navel to knee) but I still don't agree that its worse than dressing in that manner in public vs behind closed doors with only your girlfriends.

Think of it this way should a hijabi girl not get her hair done, or wear makeup to girl only parties because isn't it all meant for her husband only? What if she isn't married? So when can she dress up and feel good about herself like other women?

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not all hijabis are like that...some have the same morals as some non-hijabis who said they wouldn't show skin to other women.

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what's so horrible about a hijabi girl smoking? drinking, sure..but smoking? is smoking considered immoral now?

with attitudes as judgmental as these, do we also expect good hijabi women to be dormant in their intimate lives (with their husbands, for clarification) ? it wouldn't suit them/their image after all to be playful and naughty, even if it is within limits of what is Islamically allowed, would it.

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no, actually it's worse than just immoral, it's haram.

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Since when is smoking haram?

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If someone is wearing tie and dye peace sign shirt what would be your first impression of them? If I have a pot leaf flag painted on my car what would be your first impression? These are all symbols which stands for something. And people carrying them around get associated with the message that symbol represent.Now tell me islamically what does hijabb stands for?

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Since a long time ago, mentioned in Reliance of the Traveller by Imam Shafi, most Hanafi scholars have taken the same opinion.

But according to some scholars, it's makruh like woman-led prayer is makruh. :)

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^I like the little :) at the end!!

And I like how the OP never returned. LOL

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Agreed, and that's why its hard to say that all hijabis are pious muslims. Things aren't black and white unfortunately.

Please read my last post.

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You think Bomb sell Babe is my multi?

It's not. :)

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things that don't matter mattering ought not to matter

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nevermind bombshellbabe. you guys debate on and debate hard!

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lol, I don’t think she meant that or maybe she did :konfused:

PS. that was meant in response to Hareem

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Hmmm, Im sure someones said this already, but I think a lot of us women don't know that we're not even supposed to show our boobies and butts in front of women either. A certain amount of sharm and hayaa is expected by a woman regardless of the type of gathering.

Khair, next time, just don't go to such parties.